[Admin disclaimer: The claims of the following article are not endorsed by our movement. The author AryanAim, a former member who apparently acquired these views on cosmology during his several-year-long absence from us, chose (under no pressure from us) to resign shortly after posting this article. I have decided to keep the article public as a case study in the epistemological dangers of conspiracy theory. Among those like ourselves who question the official stories of particular highly politicized events - 9/11 and other Zionist false flag terror attacks, the 'Holocaust', the 'Colocaust', etc. - it can be tempting to suddenly start distrusting mainstream accounts in unrelated subjects also, and consequently to doubt mainstream versions of EVERY SUBJECT, and from here to become more easily convinced by alternative theories than one probably otherwise would have been. The result is as seen below, in the article and in the comment debate that follows. Please take heed.]
The first thing people tend to ask who haven’t considered the earth to be anything but what we’ve been told, is what does it matter? I want to state that before all such questions my primary concern always, before all else, is truth. So how can we know something is absolutely true? As subjective beings, I don’t think we really can; rather we can postulate what is most likely to be true by eliminating all that’s impossible.
Koreshans around their geodetic device
About two and a half years ago I stumbled upon scientific sources while web surfing that TV and school never broached. A man named Cyrus Teed in the late 1800s had an epiphany that we lived inside earth. He claimed earth is an enclosed, concave terrafirma that houses the universe, sun, moon, stars, planets, etc – inside of it. (Admittedly at first this came across as crazy to me). He called it the cellular cosmogony – the title of the book he and his friend Ulysses Grant Morrow wrote. (http://wildheretic.com/cellular%20cosmogony.pdf)
Ulysses Morrow was a geodesist (earth surveyor), and he invented the device in the photo above to verify their claims. (http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/6/)
This was basically a 4 mile long level, along the Bay of Naples, Florida, whose results indeed verified their claims that the earth’s surface curves upward, not downward; that earth is of a cellular design. The findings showed earth to curve upward at same rate as it’s believed to curve downward; the math showing earth to be 25,000 mi in circumference – the same size as commonly believed.
But it wasn’t just one experiment that indicated the cellular cosmogony to be true. In 1901 J.B. Watson, the chief engineer at the Tamarack copper mine in Michigan suspended 4250 ft long plumb lines down mine shafts. The measurements showed the lines were farther apart from each other at the bottom than the top.
The balls were expected to move closer together towards the center of the Earth where the center of gravity should reside if it were a pull dependent on mass as Newton said it was
The rectilineator disproved earth’s convexity, and the Tamarack mine shaft experiment disproved Newton’s concept of gravity being a downward pull toward earth’s supposed center. Another experiment called Airy’s Failure was another simple test in attempt to prove the rotation of the earth, and failed. This was done with a telescope and water. Since light moves slower through water, G.B. Airy was able to observe the aberration of the stars through a telescope filled with water at a greater angle than filled with air. The findings were contrary to the Copernican theory of a revolving earth, showing the stars to be moving, not earth! (http://www.geocentricity.com/ba1/no066/vdkamp.html)
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” – Nikola Tesla
The electric universe theory has come a way since Tesla, and what do you know, plasma physics and electromagnetism correlate with cellular cosmogony: Concave Earth Scientific Evidences
Here is visual proof of earth’s concavity, made possible via recent advanced zoom technology on cameras: Objects shown inclined in the distance
So what does this all mean? What about all the flat earth buzz? I’ve been following that noise too, and speculated the same thing that’s highlighted in the following post from Reddit – that flat earth theory is meant to misinform and distract from the truth. (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4q3rfu/flat_earth_is_a_zionist_psyop_to_discredit_the/)
Is the flat earth craze a psyop? Possibly. All I know is the leader of the flat earth community, vegan self defense and yoga practitioner Eric Dubay, is almost an antithetic personality in contrast to the unofficial spokesperson for concave earth theory today – Steven Christopher, who actually calls himself the messiah “Steven Christ”. He’s literally the last guy you’d want representing a truth of this magnitude. One of several saving graces for cellular cosmogony is the network previously cited, the Wild Heretic: http://www.wildheretic.com/
Here you will find most your questions answered. The people who run that network write in a similar style as members of this network, just more science oriented. I would guess that many of you will enjoy what they have to say.
The following are illustrations of what I can confidently say is a more likely model of earth and the universe.
Light Bends
We are an Emanation of Life from a Central Source
Here’s a good visual of light bending…
I’m only now positing this discovery that just in the last year or so has spread among a growing minority of people (unfortunately hardly noticed since flat-earth has been blown up into the foreground) because I feel the time is right. Most take one look at “concave earth” and turn away once they find the Zionist shill occupying its cyberspace. Conversely, they take a few looks into mainstream mentioned flat-earth, and the likable Dubay is just too shrewd and correct on many things to consider the former. There are several damning fallacies with the flat earth model popular “scientists” like Freemason metaphysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson fail to even bring up when they’re “debunking” it. It’s almost like they want us to believe it’s flat!
This is the mother of all truths. I’d guess that at some level of the Zionist hierarchy it’s common knowledge. It’s basically the equivalent of hiding god. How this knowledge would change the collective consciousness of humanity may not be fathomable.
Since the Copernican era science has advanced considerably. We found that sound creates light! People began making assumptions based on a false assumption, like for example that the stars were “distant suns”. Scientific advancement, thanks much to Tesla’s work, has shown us more likely scenarios, based on actual experimentation, not mere theory. Sound creating light is called ‘sonoluminesence’ – a word internet spellcheck doesn’t recognize.
Stars are Bubbles of Light Created by Sound Frequency, Not Distant Suns
They also didn’t have hot air or weather balloons, or cameras then. The common fisheye lens today however distorts footage and photos, conveniently making earth’s horizon appear warped one way or the other. On the Red Bull Stratos jump, the one normal camera inside the pod shows a horizon slightly above the center of the large window from which Felix jumped. On a ball, the horizon would be several inches below the center of window. (https://youtu.be/Dt0QuBsGU20)
Despite advances in science, the assumption earth is one of the planets circling a large central sun, sustained. There are obvious discrepancies with the heliocentric model, like the fact we do not see a new sky of stars every six months when we’re supposedly on the other side of a central sun, in which case new stars should be seen at night the whole world-over. This of course doesn’t happen, because it’s the same star-map inside a central, revolving celestial sphere. Kind of like a big disco ball. The stars are bubbles of light in water, produced by the sound frequency of the heavens.
The sun itself is known in many scientific circles as electric, not a ‘nuclear furnace’, yet the dated theory is still taught in the mainstream media and school. The Thunderbolts Project team, while presumably not aware of earth’s concavity, have made advances in proving the electric nature the universe and sun through experiments and critical observations. Eric Dullard, a scientist who specializes in electricity and sound frequency, declares the sun to be electric: The Sun isn\’t What We\’ve Been Told
As Aryanists I feel there is a duty to truth, and I would not be posting this now if I wasn’t thoroughly convinced it is more than likely true. Please research for yourselves, do not fear telling others. Truth has nothing to fear from alternative views. I feel we are here to enlighten, to love, and to help guide others to the light out of this cell. Deep down, it is as everybody knows – “the world we live in”, not “the world we live on”. Godspeed Aryans.
@AA
Actually, you know what AA, your comments on pizza gate infuriate me.
“Also, I can take a wild guess that you never actually considered Pizzagate / pedogate to be anything other than “fake news” (according to the Jewish liberal media). Anybody with an open, critical mind who looks into the global child sex trafficking taking place, comes away from it with a very grim understanding that somewhere, right this second, there are multiple children being ritually sexually raped and tortured. And this is very much related to anti-Zionism since the ones at the top of that list are Kabbalist Jews and high ranking Freemasons. Like I said, this network’s vision is super limited since really anchoring down on the whole trying to convert liberals into Aryanists thing.”
1. Save such a despicable guess about me for yourself. You don’t know me.
2. I have an open mind towards organized and forced child-prostitution. I just can’t convict John Podesta and other political figures of being involved with such a despicable and criminal act without proof beyond a reasonable doubt, much like how I can’t convict an individual, with Jewish ancestry like Jesus, who may or may not have criminally reproduced without actual proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If we were to convict people for a crime based on a hunch alone, Neo-Nazis could easily kill an innocent individual, similar to Jesus, just because they have a hunch that he or she criminally reproduced. It’s all just observation and evidence when it comes to this scandal. And you’re coming off awfully like Alex Jones.
3. Maybe you should be doing more to attract people to this site for the sake of defeating Zionism rather than write a whole article about the shape of the planet, which isn’t even related to anti-Zionism because Zionistic and Anti-Zionistic behavior and mannerisms can take place regardless of the shape of the planet.
4. You care more about getting into petty fights with AS than seriously attracting people to this site to fight Zionism. And AS is right; take this debate about the shape of the planet earth with somebody who’s driven to debate that kind of subject.
As a Congoid man, new to National Socialism living in the UK, it has been stated that Hitler spoke negatively of the ‘negro man’ in Mein Kampf, saying that Negroes were brought to the Rhineland by Jews? How will this affect Congoids taking up NatSoc as an ideology?
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel:
If Negroes were brought to the Rhineland by Jews, it may have been against the Negroes will, considering the fact that Jews also helped bring Negroes to North America and the Caribbean against their wills…
“The Waffen SS was largely composed of non-Germanic volunteers. Most historians continue to neglect the motivations of these men and women who fought for Hitler as opposed to the Allies. I felt that this was historically unacceptable given that every side feels that it alone is justified. Historians have generally described this interracial phenomenon as “inexplicable” when there is more than sufficient evidence to the contrary. Not only was Hitler ambivalent about his racial and ethnic views, but so too were many prominent Nazis, such as Franz Wimmer-Lamquet and Alfred Rosenberg. I have always maintained that unless the penchant for tolerance and acceptance of the “other” is present, no tolerance or acceptance of the “other” will occur in a genuine way. Many Nazis became great friends with non-Germans. Hitler and Himmler both went out of their way to accommodate their Arab-Semitic volunteers. Hitler met with the Grand Mufti, but failed to meet with the “Aryan” leader of the United States, Franklin Roosevelt. From this example, we may conclude that Hitler was willing to contradict his own Weltanschauung in order to achieve what he needed to achieve politically and militarily. Interestingly, this general attitude of ambivalence was not limited to the military sphere. It extended into the realm of Third Reich society both before and during the war…”.
“…The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis…”. https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel
Keep in mind that Hitler said a few things in Mein Kampf that he obviously didn’t believe in. For instance, consider the seemingly anti-Japanese points made in MK, and how Hitler went on to compliment Japanese (and Chinese) culture, allied with them during the war, and even deemed them as “honorary Aryans” – AFTER he published the book, which had anti-Japanese connotations in it.
“I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.” – Adolf Hitler
So to answer your question, there isn’t a problem with someone who happens to be a Congoid wanting to become a National Socialist, what Hitler wrote in MK doesn’t really matter since it clearly conflicts with Hitler’s character.
In shirt, it all boils down to the quality of the individual, not the skin color, ethnicity, sexuality, etc. (Then there’s the fact that he had no problem with “Congoids” serving in his military, as Dragon has pointed out).
Autocorrect strikes again, lol.
In short*
@William Eastfield
I’d hardly call the Japanese “honorary aryans”; they were literally aryans to Hitler’s eyes. He was even allowing Japanese and Germans the “right” to marry, which was only allowed among literal aryans. Same goes for arabs.
@William Eastfield
As for everything else you just stated tho, I absolutely agree.
Aryan race means quality; not ethnicity.
@GG
“Also, doesn’t this site basically say neutral towards pedophilia?”
No. Pedophiles base their attraction to someone due to their age. When the individual gets “too old” the pedophile loses interest and seeks ‘new blood’… That’s a very selfish and dishonorable way to form relationships (and probably why pedophiles so often torture children–because many merely view children as objects to fulfill their own desires, rather than autonomous individuals whose consent is critical).
Our conception of love involves attraction to an individual and their personality; but, unlike the sex-obsessed and patronizing traditions in place in the West, we simply disagree with having double standards which arbitrarily deny an individual the ability to consent in certain areas while accepting it in others, based on an arbitrary age.
(Also just for the record, this should go without saying, we are strongly against rape, torture, and forced prostitution, which we are obviously ignoble since those crimes are done without the consent of the individual. )
Regarding “pizzagate,” I think it was a distractor theory (just look at its silly name ffs) to draw attention away from more heavy-hitting conspiracies. At first, I assumed “pizzagate” had something to do with the older conspiracy which based its claims of the Clintons’ alleged child torture on their relationship to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and their alleged trips to his private island–but apparently it does not.
The most damning reason to believe it is just a distractor, is because this “pizzagate” thing blew up around the same time that a lawsuit was filed against Trump for allegedly torturing children (Epstein, who is also a friend of Trump, is the key figure in this case as well).
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/alexander-acosta-trump-jeffrey-epstein-plea-235096
…Of course, a story about some random pizza place (based on emails hacked by Russia and leaked by pro-Russian sources, and the ‘conspiracy’ which was heavily promoted by the AltRight) took all eyes off Trump’s alleged involvement in child torture rings and got people to ignore more convincing leads against the Clintons/Dem party as well.
@Gallery Guy
Interesting! I didn’t know that German – Japanese marriage was explicitly allowed! Where’d you find this out?
(This should be good piece to bomb neos with, lol)
As for the “honorary Aryan” bit, I was just going off of what I have heard Hitler to have said about the Japanese, but idk.
@Gallery Guy
Interesting! I didn’t know that German-Japanese marriages were explicitly allowed! Where’d you find this out? I would be more than glad to bomb some neos with this one, lol.
As for the “honorary Aryan” bit, I was just going off of what I have heard Hitler to have said in reference to the Japanese, but idk.
@JJ
“Our conception of love involves attraction to an individual and their personality; but, unlike the sex-obsessed and patronizing traditions in place in the West, we simply disagree with having double standards which arbitrarily deny an individual the ability to consent in certain areas while accepting it in others, based on an arbitrary age.”
Fair enough; I meant to write my comment to contrast this site’s attitude towards pedophilia to the West’s attitude towards the topic in a general manner, but I did it rather rashly, so my apologies.
“Regarding “pizzagate,” I think it was a distractor theory (just look at its silly name ffs) to draw attention away from more heavy-hitting conspiracies. At first, I assumed “pizzagate” had something to do with the older conspiracy which based its claims of the Clintons’ alleged child torture on their relationship to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and their alleged trips to his private island–but apparently it does not.
The most damning reason to believe [that PizzaGate] it is just a distractor, is because this “pizzagate” thing blew up around the same time that a lawsuit was filed against Trump for allegedly torturing children (Epstein, who is also a friend of Trump, is the key figure in this case as well).”
I agree.
@William Eastfield
I remember reading this on Wikipedia and in some book in college. I think Hitler was also trying to be careful to not infuriate the more-racist Germans who despised the Japanese just because they aren’t “white” in his politics tho. He literally would examine many german-Japanese marriages in a case-by-case basis for instance. Then again, I’m sure Hitler would’ve been okay with a noble Japanese marrying a noble German rather than that noble German marrying an ignoble German.
Out of interest does anybody on here promote Nordicism?
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel
Nordicism can be fine; but, unfortunately, people like Madison’s Grant and Lothrop Sotddard advocated ethnocentric version of it which is what this site opposes.
In my opinion, it should be practiced in a universal manner. For instance, a noble individual from south of the Sahara who immigrates to any of the Nordic states in Europe should be considered a “Nordic” due to his or her quality as an individual.
Malcolm X is an example of an individual with a lot of “African” ancestry that should be allowed to become a “Nordic” due to his noble behavior and mannerisms.
(The term ‘Africa’ is a rather Eurocentric term tho.)
@Daniel
“As a Congoid man”
If you claim specifically to be a Congoid (I assume by “Congoid” you are not referring to Congolese nationality!), you would be admitting to predominantly Gentile blood memory. Is this intentional? Please refer to this page:
(“Congo” literally means “hunter”)
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-5/
You have an option of claiming instead to be a descendant of Aganju:
Only Aganju, Obatala’s son-in-law, was fully acculturated.
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-5/
what we call an Ife:
Ife type – Orimiri-Volta-Senegal region
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-roundup/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ife
which I would recommend if you consider yourself to have predominantly Aryan blood memory (which in turn I would expect if you are a fan of our site!).
“new to National Socialism living in the UK”
So you are now a New Trojan:
the keynote of Brutus’ naval expedition is the recovery of other Aryans along the way and integrating them as “New Trojans”.
…
Arthur’s open invitation calling for knights from all lands to move to Camelot could easily be viewed as a direct continuation of Brutus’ New Trojan idea.
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-6/
“it has been stated that Hitler spoke negatively of the ‘negro man’ in Mein Kampf, saying that Negroes were brought to the Rhineland by Jews”
Don’t worry; Hitler was perfectly aware that “negroes” are not monolithic, but – like all ethnicities – differ in quality according to bloodline:
“It is also an interesting fact that among the negroes the children of those tribes which are primarily vegetarian develop more harmoniously than those of the tribes in which it is customary for the mother to feed her infant up to the age of four or five.” – Adolf Hitler
Most importantly, the Nuremberg Laws do not even mention “negroes” or any remotely equivalent term, so anything negative said about “negroes” earlier can be reasonably dismissed as Hitler trying to win an election from an electorate raised on Jim Crow era Hollywood movies.
http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-nazism/
@William
“there isn’t a problem with someone who happens to be a Congoid”
It is our propaganda objective to eventually turn “Congoid” into an insult applied to rightists of the appropriate ethnic background. For example, this is a Congoid in my mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)
@GG
“I’d hardly call the Japanese “honorary aryans”; they were literally aryans to Hitler’s eyes.
“Just as there have always been two Germanys, so there have always been two Japans.” – Adolf Hitler
There were Aryan and non-Aryan Japanese in Hitler’s eyes, just as there were Aryan and non-Aryan Germans.
@JJ
“we simply disagree with having double standards which arbitrarily deny an individual the ability to consent in certain areas while accepting it in others, based on an arbitrary age”
We more than disagree with having double standards, we disagree outright with age of consent in ANY area.
(Saying that “we disagree with having double standards” could give the impression that age of consent is acceptable to us so long as it applies evenly across all areas!)
“Out of interest does anybody on here promote Nordicism?”
No.
Some anthropologists considered the “Nordic race” to be a branch of the “Mediterranean race” (and therefore a Neolithic/Aryan, as opposed to a Paleolithic/Gentile, racial type), but we do not think northern Europeans of Neolithic heritage are superior to other ethnic groups of Neolithic heritage, nor do we place any special emphasis on “Nordic” as a racial/ethnic category.
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“For instance, a noble individual from south of the Sahara who immigrates to any of the Nordic states in Europe should be considered a “Nordic” due to his or her quality as an individual.”
Unfortunately, that definition has never been used by Nordicists (either early 20th century ones, or 21st century WNs and “Nordish-ists”) nor non-racist anthropologists who used ‘Nordic’ as an ethno-skeletal term.
We promote ‘Trojan’ as an alternative term to avoid confusion and provide a more idealistic conception of northern Europe than ‘Nordic’ could ever provide.
@AS
“There were Aryan and non-Aryan Japanese in Hitler’s eyes, just as there were Aryan and non-Aryan Germans.”
True; I should have said in the context of the Nuremberg Laws rather than “in Hitler’s eyes”.
@JJ
“Unfortunately, that definition has never been used by Nordicists (either early 20th century ones, or 21st century WNs and “Nordish-ists”) nor non-racist anthropologists who used ‘Nordic’ as an ethno-skeletal term.
We promote ‘Trojan’ as an alternative term to avoid confusion and provide a more idealistic conception of northern Europe than ‘Nordic’ could ever provide.”
Fair enough. I was thinking that the word ‘Nordic’ essentially means ‘northerner’, but even that’s a broad term in itself since so many places that people are in can be considered ‘north’, so it loses meaning just from that.
How do we get the truth of National Socialism and Aryanism out to the wider public if they shan’t read this great website?
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel:
We’re going to have to beat it into them one-by-one, you ready?
Of course I am ready comrade. We will have to wipe out the neo-nazi organisations first and replace them with our own.
^ I like the way you think!
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel
Off topic, but when you read up on George Lincoln Rockwell, keep in mind that he was only pretending to be a Neo-Nazi. Rockwell literally admitted to this both in private and in public, as the main site has shown in its section on “National Socialism v. Neo-Nazism”. He was essentially noble “con-artist” (that is, that he was conning Neo-Nazis and other ignoble indivuals).
Well as a National Socialist myself, GLR isn’t an authentic national socialist, he’s more of a white nationalist/identitarian with some very supremacist views. I remember when he literally said on Canadian TV on YouTube that whites are superior blacks. So he is a neo-nazi
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel
“While some communication occurred between the esoteric Hitlerists and a few honest leaders of neo-Nazi groups shortly after WWII, it quickly became apparent (to the dismay of both parties) that bloc-conversion of neo-Nazis to authentic National Socialists was not feasible, for the very reason that the vast majority of those attracted by Nazism had exactly the wrong type of personality for National Socialism.
“Dear Savitri, … You simply must try to understand the almost unbelievable difficulties I face in working here with Americans … they are just plain ignorant and often unbelievably dumb.” – George Lincoln Rockwell
“I am forced to walk a careful line between what I should like to say and what the enemy would like to hear me say. Unless I deliberately sound at least halfway like a raving illiterate with three loose screws, such an interview would never be printed. This is another thing that most people fail to understand about my “Nazi” technique.” – George Lincoln Rockwell
“Without ammunition, even the greatest general on earth would lose a war. And if the people who have a monopoly on the ammunition require me to say “abracadabra” three times every morning in order to get enough bullets to annihilate the enemy, then, by God, I will say “abracadabra” not three times, but nine times and most enthusiastically, regardless of whether it is nonsense, lies, or what it may be. Once we have achieved power, it is an entirely different matter.” – George Lincoln Rockwell
[George Lincoln Rockwell was a] National Socialist who pretended to be a neo-Nazi in order to more easily get numerical support against Jewish power. Result: Zionist agents saw through the ruse and assassinated him so that he would be replaced by his followers [like William Luther Pierce], who are actual neo-Nazis. (The same thing happened to Malcolm X who had around the same time also revealed his rejection of racism.)”.
That is all from the main site.
The first quote, made in private, by Rockwell was in response to Savitri Devi, a National Socialist that Rockwell heavily admired, when she asked him why he was empasizing so much on the “white-race” and “Christian-identity” sect instead of the Aryan race. The whole quote includes Rockwell stating that perhaps many Europeans are evil and viscous democrats and even communists but the most Americans unfortunately don’t even have that honor to be such ideological criminals; they, to Rockwell, are just plain ignorant and often unbelievably dumb. He even later goes on to say that he has to be careful in public conduct like Hitler was when making Mein Kempf and his other public acts.
The second quote, made in private again to the same person aforementioned, was further elaboration to Savitri Devi
The third quote was even much more further elaboration of why he came off as such a racist, and was made in public.
If you also listen to Rockwell he wanted to give “blacks” a place separate from “whites” in order for them to live a better life, which was to be established by the United States government. William Luther Pierce, however, wanted “blacks” to live separately but didn’t think it was the duties of “whites” to care so much. Eventually tho, Rockwell was murdered after he was showing his true, noble self to the public both on purpose and maybe by accident, too.
Unfortunately today, we don’t have a Rockwell. The situation with Neo-Nazis went from bad to worse, and we are probably better off with countering them hands-on with paramilitary organizations.
In a National Socialist state, would you have any form of separatism between any people though? Baring in mind what we stand for as Aryanists?
@SS
I should’ve emphasized the point that Rockwell didn’t want any “black” indivuals to be forced to leave the United States; and he wanted the US government to pick up the bill for such a thing to happen.
He wanted “blacks” to have their own place to live in, separate from “whites”, in order to live freer from the exploitation of “whites”. So, separatism is acceptable in an NS state when it’s establish as a “tool” to destroy exploitation and slavery in general.
Like I said before tho, we don’t have a Rockwell today to help with a situation that went from bad to worse. It even especially got worse after 9/11.
I hope that one day all of us could come together and form one true National Socialist party. That would be amazing once we gather a huge support base from this site
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel:
“I hope that one day all of us could come together and form one true National Socialist party.”
Indeed! It’s going to take more than a website on the internet to make that happen though, at-least from my experience. It’s going to take foot soldiers on the street talking with people face to face. I don’t think that will be that effective until the situation gets much worse, however…
Doesn’t hurt to have a website in the mean-time though I suppose. I just hope that when the time comes, people haven’t grown roots around their computer chairs…
Hopefully sooner rather than later because I’d say neo-nazism is more known than authentic national socialism, with all the white supremacist organisations like NSM, Aryan Nations
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer:
True. Yet, we don’t even have to call it National Socialism, or even link it to Hitler or the Third Reich. Save that for after victory. Many National Socialist concepts can be spoken about without ever having to use the phrase “National Socialism”. Besides, German National Socialism was already defeated by physical force. (Even though it put up one hell of a fight, it took 53 countries to take down the Third Reich after-all). True American National Socialism has never really existed, and has yet to be defeated, as an example.
The phrases, True Leftism, or the True Left, works just as well and does have all the Third Reich baggage attached to it.
Like I have said before, the only thing that can defeat an idea is a better idea. National Socialism should always be presented to the uninitiated as a NEW and BETTER idea than those which maintain the current status quo and world order, in my opinion.
The good thing with me is that I’m very young which makes it better as national socialism emphasises on youth. And how do you think Hitler would react if he found out that non ethnic Europeans took Aryanism as a political and spiritual belief?
@Daniel
“In a National Socialist state, would you have any form of separatism between any people though? Baring in mind what we stand for as Aryanists?”
Tribalists who refuse to join the folk and actively attempt to sow disunity among the populace (through promotion of class warfare, inter-ethnic strife, etc.) would be separated and removed from society. (This is the entire rationale behind “concentration camps”).
Of course, an NS state will never separate any citizens on the basis of ethnic background, (but neither will it tolerate anti-folkish individuals who promote ethnic separatism).
@GG
“I should’ve emphasized the point that Rockwell didn’t want any “black” indivuals to be forced to leave the United States; and he wanted the US government to pick up the bill for such a thing to happen.”
And by doing so, he was basically selling some of the ideas Malcolm X was promoting at the time to “whites”.
“So, separatism is acceptable in an NS state when it’s establish as a “tool” to destroy exploitation and slavery in general.”
But only in the sense of the state separating and removing ethno-separatists from society and quarantining/imprisoning them. Allowing actual “separatism” to exist by giving in to the demands of ethno-separatists and giving them their own land on which to live unimpeded would entail apartheid/”separate but equal”… Under no circumstances would an NS state allow that.
If Malcolm X was leader of the USA, he wouldn’t have had to promote a separate American enclave (to serve as a refuge and base of operations against White Supremacy), since he would have been able to destroy Jim Crow from the inside, using state power.
@JJ
“And by doing so, he was basically selling some of the ideas Malcolm X was promoting at the time to “whites”.”
Exactly!
“But only in the sense of the state separating and removing ethno-separatists from society and quarantining/imprisoning them. Allowing actual “separatism” to exist by giving in to the demands of ethno-separatists and giving them their own land on which to live unimpeded would entail apartheid/”separate but equal”… Under no circumstances would an NS state allow that.”
I agree.
“If Malcolm X was leader of the USA, he wouldn’t have had to promote a separate American enclave (to serve as a refuge and base of operations against White Supremacy), since he would have been able to destroy Jim Crow from the inside, using state power.”
I agree. Unfortunately though, Malcolm X was never able to become the leader of the USA to do such a thing
Should we all take a minute to laugh at the nsm88.org website which says in the FAQ section that Adolf Hitler said that ‘ in his book Mein Kampf, Hitler said the White Race, not Germany, should and does rule the world.’ LOL.
@SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Daniel:
“Hitler said the White Race, not Germany, should and does rule the world.’ LOL.”
If he had said that it would be partly true, taking into consideration most Jews themselves are “white”; and the power of Jewish international finance and banking.
Jews believe “whites” should and do rule the world, at-least that’s what the first Jew in this Jewish documentary believes. He believes “Jews run the world”, and Jews are for the most part “white” after-all, especially of the Ashkenazi variety:
Defamation: (note how Jewish power is made to look benevolent in this documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE
What do you think of the time cube theory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn2UCqL5qyo
If we were to all create a National Socialist party, where would our Lebensraum take place?
@Daniel
That would obviously depend on what territory we have control over to begin with. Ideally, river valleys and other fertile areas with local access to fresh water would be best, to allow achieving autarky. As far military border expansion, it is only unethical for us to attack other universalist countries. Tribalist countries such as Israel, Hungary, Myanmar et cetera are obvious first priorities for invasion, the rest is situation specific.
Also, can you explain to me the concept of Blood and Soil please, I havent seen it on the site yet. Thanks
@SS
“Also, can you explain to me the concept of Blood and Soil please, I havent seen it on the site yet. Thanks”
Here are two links show what that concepts means:
http://aryanism.net/politics/beyond-propaganda/platforming/
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-7/
To be an aryan don’t you have to be Germanic? Isn’t that what Hitler and the National Socialists said when they were carrying out Lebensraum in the east?
@kek
“To be an aryan don’t you have to be Germanic? Isn’t that what Hitler and the National Socialists said when they were carrying out Lebensraum in the east?”
Hitler literally offered aryan status to Japanese, Arabs and Native Americans via Nuremberg Laws. He even sacked Wilhelm Frick from power, a minister under Hitler’s rule, after Frick attempted to apply the Nuremberg laws to “blacks”, “gypsies” and their “bastards”.
Also, Hitler was willing to compromise with Poland over the issue of Poland’s German minority much like what Hitler did with Mussolini; however, France and pro-French, Polish politicians got in the way of such compromise.