EDL Ziongasm

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/25/305315/islamophobic-hate-crimes-surge-in-uk/

But instead of making this into yet another round of complaining about the ZCs, I’d rather express thanks to all the people who have called for clear thinking and community cohesion. Here are a few videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXAhNQHNhQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qK-FI0B974

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFyG9zBIbDw

And of course George Galloway:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/24/305183/uk-is-paying-for-complicity-in-syria/

The problem is that the ZCs are organized whereas the well-intentioned people are presently disorganized. Doing something as individuals is better than doing nothing at all, but if you guys who have spoken out against the EDL are serious about stopping the ZC backlash, you need to organize, equip and train:

http://aryanism.net/politics/beyond-propaganda/paramilitary/

http://aryanism.net/politics/beyond-propaganda/preparedness/

There is still some time left, but it is running out as we speak. As long as there is no counterbalancing force, it will just escalate:

http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2013/5/18/golden-dawn-letter-demands-muslims-leave-greece.html

We must destroy the false notion that firearm ownership and paramilitary organization are “culturally right-wing”. Sure, I’d prefer if firearms had never been invented, but as long as they have been invented, leftists need to have some wherever it is legal to possess them! And paramilitary organization is even more important. There is nothing inherently right-wing about it; it is simply efficiency of means. The end, not the means, determines which side we are on.

Imagewise, paramilitary needs to be where martial arts is today. When people think of the archetypical martial artist, they think of someone who is extremely honorable and fundamentally peace-loving, though prepared to use his skills against aggressors. (Of course, in reality, many people who practice martial arts do not live up to this archetype and are actually thugs and bullies, but nevertheless the archetype is what it is.) Thus martial arts training is quite popular with leftists. On the other hand, when people think of the archetpical paramilitary group, they think of every archetype associated with the far-right and nothing else. Thus leftists are turned off the idea of paramilitary organization and training. This is what needs changing. This is where Aryanism comes in.

A while back, we asked for volunteers to start a leftist-only pro-firearm forum. So far, nobody has volunteered. We are still waiting. Now on top of this, I am asking for volunteers to start a leftist-only pro-paramilitary forum. Any takers? Please let us know if you want to help:

http://aryanism.net/about/contact/

Meanwhile, as public attention is focused on the EDL, nobody is paying attention to this:

http://news.yahoo.com/2-rockets-hit-lebanese-hezbollah-stronghold-051511235.html

What a depressing weekend……

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27 Responses to EDL Ziongasm

  1. Panzerfaust says:

    I might not be of help right now, but i suggest, the Aryanists should start training with wooden rifles or anything that resembles a rifle. Depending on the situation, if any of you have airsoft rifles, it would be best to train with them. I don’t have any of these as well. However, it would be good to train with fake rifles, at first.

  2. mandrake says:

    I live in the city where the EDL demonstration was happening. There were around 7000 people who attended, the media said around 1500, but the truth was much higher. I myself was asked by three people who work at a place I get my supplies for work from ‘are you going on the march today’. I replied no and I loathed the EDL, ‘you a Paki lover?’, ‘No, I hate the EDL, they’re a Jewish front-group.’ This led to comments such as ‘I’d rather have Jews than Pakis’. One of the men there knows I don’t subscribe to the Holocaust myth commented to the other two, ‘he doesn’t even believe in the Holocaust’, the other two looked amazed. ‘How not? I’ve been to Belsen’. I answered that they should research the truth but I thought it’s pointless continuing since they were already aggressively posturing and ready for trouble.

    People who I wouldn’t even suspect would attend something like an EDL rally have been going in light of the Woolwich murder. The EDL have gone from 20,000 ‘likes’ on their Facebook page to over 70,000 in the space of three days.

    This leads to the the comment on martial arts. When I met Anthony recently we discussed this. As people will know I’ve trained most of my life in martial arts. The Archetype that AS points out is mainly to be found within the traditional background Japanese martial arts such as Judo and Jujitsu. The recent popularity of MMA worldwide has attracted a kind of person who is more than likely an aggressive bully who wouldn’t know anything of ahimsa or the traditional role of MA.

    MMA isn’t a fad (sadly so) and as said by the Gracie family themselves ‘the bad guys are learning Jiu-Jitsu (brazilian jiu jitsu that is) which is true. Many are attracted to the MMA game through power, social position and the tough guy image. Martial arts training is imperative in a country that will not allow firearm ownership. This is a serious concern for me since I know and have met the new breed of thugs who are practicing lethal techniques with potentially devastating consequences.

  3. AS says:

    mandrake, thank you very much for your efforts to expose the EDL as a Jewish front-group. However, it may not be a good idea to give this as the MAIN reason why you do not support the EDL, as this could seem to imply that you would be willing to support a non-Jewish-backed group with similar ideas (ie. a BS rather than ZC group). In fact such a group already exists in the UK, known as the Infidels. They started in the EDL but became Jew-aware and split off. It is dangerous to give the impression that we do not support the EDL but might support the Infidels.

    The MAIN reason I suggest we give for not supporting the EDL/Infidels are their ideas themselves. We must be ideologists first, conspiracy theorists second. We can highlight the immense Muslim contribution to activism against the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, the immense Muslim contribution to activism promoting the Israel boycott, and so on.

    “‘you a Paki lover?’”

    This line, which they used to intimidate you, is worth study from a propaganda perspective. Lines like this are designed to put you on the defensive. Just by asking the question in this way, they have made it seem like a bad thing to “love Pakis”. In just four words, they have NORMALIZED RACISM.

    When faced with such intimidation, we must never back down. As soon as we say “No,” we lose initiative. On the contrary, we must counterattack. For example, we could say “Didn’t you ever learn to judge people as individuals?” or “The only people I hate are racists.” or better yet “How would you like it if people judged you by where your ancestors came from?” This de-normalizes racism and returns initiative to our side. This is what the propaganda war is all about.

    I agree with your observations about martial arts. MMA in itself (the training approach) is not the problem, the problem is that much of its popularity comes from fans of UFC etc., which draws people who are primarily attracted to the competitive aspect. And yes, over time, this could affect the archetype of the martial artist. This is something that we should also worry about. Since martial arts is your speciality, would you consider starting a leftist-only martial arts forum? This could also help, alongside the leftist-only firearm and paramilitary forums that have been requested.

  4. TheCreativeism says:

    I don’t understand this leftist rhetoric - National Socialism wasn’t of the left or the right it was entirely new, wholly encompassing ideology. When you say the left it only makes people think of groups like the “anti-fascists” who shout “nazi scum off our streets” whilst they simultaneously damage public property and openly promote Marxist ideologies. I don’t think the EDL is a Jewish front group atall, infact I believe its the exact opposite. It’s simple cause and effect - people see that extremist elements in Islam like Anjem Choudary are free to incite hatred and hurl slurs at people yet when others do the same they are punished for it. The fact that he is given 25,000 pounds a year by the taxpayer in benefits or “Jihad seekers allowance” as he puts it while he sits on his arse and promotes atrocities like what happened in London. The EDL is a natural reaction to this and yes, undoubtedly the ZOG media is covering it in a way to promote their own ends but the vast majority of those who attended the march the other day were nothing more than enraged citizens. However ofcourse there are going racist elements in the form of misguided youths and those that are disillusioned with the status quo - we should be educating these people and guiding them back to the folk to recognize our true enemies. I thought that would have been obvious for us here or have you all forgotten that many of the NS’ in Germany were also dimwitted thugs that Hitler often used to smash the Marxists Parties when they encountered each other.

    I think it’s time we started practicing what we preached here, unity through nobility and the first step in that is understanding our people.

  5. Jason says:

    TheCreativeism, The fundamental and crucial difference between National Socialism and Marxism is that the former analyzes through racial perspective, and the other through a purely economic and materialist one. Marxists were misguided, yet had an empathetic spirit of camaraderie and the willingness to change society, and bring nothing of the dark past with them. This is the philosophical current of the Left. This page deals with such a current in history: http://aryanism.net/politics/foundations-of-the-true-left/

    “In ancient China, it was the Mohist left as opposed to the Confucian right. In ancient India, it was the Sramanist left as opposed to the Brahmanist right. In ancient Persia, it was the Manichaean left as opposed to the Avestan right. In the ancient Levant, it was (as Dietrich Eckart mentions above) the Nazarene left as opposed to the Abrahamic right. In ancient Egypt, it was the Atenist left as opposed to the Amunist right. In ancient Greece, it was the Pythagorean left as opposed to the general pre-Socratic right, evolving into the Platonist left as opposed to the Aristotelian right. And so on.”

    The Paths untaken in history, in order to save the People from decay - just at the final moment - make up the True Left. I would also like to add to that list, the asceticism of Marcus Aurelius as opposed to the Roman imperium of his period.

    A paramilitary or defense league which responds to terror is something positive, but coming from those of the EDL, who we cannot trust to govern should they hold power if situations runs out of control, we need something a lot better, with an entirely different vision for Britain. Such was the relations between the Marxists and the National Socialists. Just as there was success in eradicating the Marxists movements before and also turning Marxists into dedicated National Socialists, the same can be done with some of these street-action groups such as the EDL. Those who side with tribalism will stick with them. And those who know how to break the terror for good can go with us.

  6. Base211 says:

    I completely agree with you TheCreativeism but this aryanism site is a bad joke.

    “you a Paki lover?” Let’s Savitri Devi answers for us here:

    In my eyes, even though Adolf Hitler “decided to become a politician” at the end of World War I, He never succeeded in doing so. Otherwise He never would have ordered 10 kilometers between His advancing army and the fleeing British Expeditionary Force, in 1940. Any “politician”—any political-minded army chief—would have ordered His soldiers to accelerate their pace and capture (or wipe out) the whole British Expeditionary Force, not allowed them to embark at Dunkirk, in safety.

    But the Führer was much more than a politician. He was an Incarnation of the divine Energy that fights to save whatever still appears to deserve to survive, be it in this dark age. So He held out His hand—not once, but again and again—to England. England chose to listen to her Jewish misleaders instead of to Him, and rejected the sincere, friendly gesture.

    For that, she shall die—not the glorious death on the battlefield, but the slow, nauseating death through blood-mixture and all manner of vice. Within less than 300 years to come—unless there be a miracle—there shall be no more England. My mother’s compatriots (my mother was descended from Jütland Vikings) will have given way before teeming millions of mongrels (a hotch potch of Jamaicans, Africans, Pakistanis, Jews, and degenerate English women) with nothing in common with their forefathers, except that they might well still be “Christians.”

  7. AS says:

    TheCreativeism, please study this page:

    http://aryanism.net/politics/foundations-of-the-true-left/

    National Socialism was new in that it suggests that the key to solving problems are genetics and demographics, but the problems it is trying to solve are the same problems that leftists have been trying to solve for thousands of years. Fundamentally, Judaism is the ultimate rightist ideology, therefore any radical ideological opponent of Judaism is necessarily leftist. Here is one of the best articles tracing the camp of historical spiritual thought to which National Socialism belongs:

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p335_Whisker.html

    “When you say the left it only makes people think of groups like the “anti-fascists””

    Hence the dire need to show by example what the True Left is about. We need to replace the disorganized, undisciplined antifa archetype with a heroic, pro-autocracy, pro-paramilitary Knight of Camelot archetype. A big part of what we do is reclaiming words and symbols, be it the swastika, the word “Aryan”, and so on. “Left” is another of many words that we aim to reclaim over time.

    “Anjem Choudary”

    He is a Zionist sockpuppet. He is what Jews want non-Muslims to assume every Muslim is like. The Christian equivalent of him would be the Westboro Baptist Church, which also gets lots of media coverage in the US just to make Christianity look bad.

    “we should be educating these people”

    You are entirely welcome to try, and I sincerely hope you succeed. My own estimate is that anyone who would join the EDL is not worth the effort. The people I think we should concentrate on educating are those who emotionally want community cohesion but who don’t realize that democracy is the real obstacle to community cohesion. These are the misguided ones, but caring people at heart.

    At present, the main thrust of the ZC propaganda is to convince people that ANYONE who claims they are not Islamophobic is really just being PC, and therefore insincere. This is quite a sneaky tactic, as it demands the accused to prove a negative. Most people, even if they are genuinely not Islamophobic, have no way to prove that they are not merely being PC. No matter what good things they say about Muslims, the ZCs can just accuse them of saying what PC has trained them to say. The only non-Islamophobes who can PROVE they are not being PC are basically us, because we are un-PC enough to criticize Jews (the ultimate taboo in PC), yet we are still not Islamophobic! This makes us the the only ones who can stop the ZC narrative dead in its tracks. The question is whether we can transmit our narrative fast enough before the entire situation blows out of control.

    _____

    Base211, you seem to have trouble with literacy.

    He was an Incarnation of the divine Energy that fights to save whatever still appears to deserve to survive, be it in this dark age. So He held out His hand—not once, but again and again—to England.

    In short, Hitler gave England more than enough chances to prove itself worthy.

    England chose to listen to her Jewish misleaders instead of to Him, and rejected the sincere, friendly gesture.

    In short, England proved itself unworthy after all.

    My mother’s compatriots (my mother was descended from Jütland Vikings) will have given way before teeming millions of mongrels (a hotch potch of Jamaicans, Africans, Pakistanis, Jews, and degenerate English women) with nothing in common with their forefathers

    The old demography chose to fight against us.
    The new demography will have nothing in common with the old.
    Therefore, logically, the new demography will have a good chance of choosing to fight on our side.

    That’s exactly what we are seeing today. Ethnic minorities are overrepresented at every single Boycott Israel gathering in Britain there has been. Savitri Devi predicted it rather accurately.

  8. Ken says:

    George Galloway? ROFLMAO! Talk about an idiot and shill. Too funny!

    Biology/Race is very real. Non-whites do not belong in a White Civilizations no matter what Marxist idiots like Aryanism tell you; they can visit but NEVER expect citizenship.

  9. mandrake says:

    I hear what you’re saying AS. In hindsight I should of said something different, but it was heat of the moment. Anyway, regardless of the circumstances, good post AS.

    @Base211

    Ironically of Devi she was married to an Indian man, which she seems to differentiate from Pakistani men somehow as this quote shows. I respect Devi but some of her opinions were nonsensical.

  10. mandrake says:

    @Ken

    Biology and race are real of course. Where do we say it’s not?

    “We have this folk of ours that is not to be defined as a race, and this is now clear to millions. However, when I began my career twenty-five years ago, this was not the case; then I was always told by bourgeois circles: “Yes, folk and race are one and the same.” No, folk and race are not the same! Race is a component of blood – a blood kernel, but a folk is very often composed not of one but of two, three, four or five different blood kernels.” – Adolf Hitler

    Unless of course you know something that Adolf Hitler didn’t. If so I’d like to hear it.

  11. TheCreativeism says:

    Your points are acknowledged but I’m still inclined to disagree on some points.

    I find it far easier to reach out to members affiliated with groups like the EDL than I do antifascists. I’ve encountered many who subscribe to many “antifascist” groups and I don’t think they are the altruistic comrades you believe them to be. The vast majority of them are either pubescent teenagers who involve themselves in such things because they see being controversial as the new trend, often labeling themselves as “anarchists” or they are middle aged social outcasts who find it hard to accept any responsibilities in their lives. For an example my gran is friends with one of them, who left her job to travel all the way to Greece simply to take part in the riots against Golden Dawn - whilst her children are put into care homes because they are neglected. These people are not Aryans; they are simply those who take up any controversial cause they see fit so as to use it as a tool to over compensate for the turmoil they’ve caused in their own lives. Even more evident by the fact that they drown themselves out with alcohol and drugs - they come into my work reeking the place out with cannabis to the extent that it physically begins to irritate your eyes.

    I do not view these people as allies, I view them as weak minded individuals who use valid causes to shirk any kind of responsibility in their own lives believing they are “raging against the machine” whilst simultaneously defending the status quot. There’s nothing noble about that.

    In stark contrast to groups like the EDL who albeit are misguided and unable to do anything constructive with what they’ve created due to a lacking of intellectual capacity but at the very lest, they are individuals who care enough about their country that they are willing to challenge the status quot by combating what they perceive to be a threat to it’s progress. Knowing full well they will be demonized by the mass media, confronted with riot police and spat on by the public - a far cry more noble than the former.

    As for George Galloway hes nothing more than a scapegoat like Alex Jones, playing on real turmoil to further his own political and monetary ends. On his radio show he persistently refers to the holocaust especially when real national socialists challenge the official story of WW2.

  12. AS says:

    “I find it far easier to reach out to members affiliated with groups like the EDL”

    TheCreativeism, again you are welcome to try, and I sincerely hope you succeed. In fact, please let us know if you manage to convince any EDL members to: 1) acknowledge the Muslim community as the builders of much of the anti-Zionist movement in the UK and thus invaluable allies to whom the UK is deeply indebted; and 2) have in their minds as positive an image of Mohammed as Muslims in their minds have of Jesus. Here is something you could get EDL members to listen to:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwR9Ezui2No

    And of course please show them our page:

    http://aryanism.net/religion/mohammedanism/words-of-mohammed/

    They can still criticize Muslims, but by showing how Muslims fall short of Mohammed’s example rather than by insulting Mohammed, just like even when Muslims criticize Christians they never insult Jesus. This is how we build positive relations.

    Here is a link Miecz sent me some time ago which could also be useful (though written for US readers):

    http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html

    “often labeling themselves as “anarchists””

    This page outlines an intellectual route for confused anarchists to convert to National Socialism:

    http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-anarchism/

    I have found that this approach works better with left-wing anarchists than with right-wing libertarians, thus further persuading me that the left-right distinction is important.

    “who left her job to travel all the way to Greece simply to take part in the riots against Golden Dawn”

    Please ask her to contact us ASAP. We need contacts over there.

    By the way, nobody claimed George Galloway was a National Socialist, nor expects him to ever become one. But his fans will at least be on roughly the correct side from the outset, and can be salvaged. We look for potential, not for the finished product. Again, if you see more potential in the EDL, I do not say you are wrong, I say try it out and see how it goes. Keep an eye on the clock, though, as we will only have time to try a few approaches before it is too late.

  13. John Johnson says:

    Perhaps this act of defiance will come as some good news amongst all the bad: http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-motorists-shocked-nazi-flag-seen-flying-near-143209208.html However, the article seems to only be posted on explicitly ZC sources, feeding their hatred…

  14. TheCreativeism says:

    @AS

    You’ve certainly given me alot to think about and I’ll take everything you’ve said on board. I still reserve judgement on these antifascists however, by definition they are against fascism and as far as they are concerned National Socialism and Mussolini’s fascism are the same. I whole heatedly agree with you that the Muslim community has done alot in the struggle against ZOG and for that they are our comrades but you are fool if you believe it be a religion of peace. It’s not like Christianity where they can pick and chose; they are direct chronological commands hence why Islam means submission i.e to literally surrender to gods will and when two verses contradict one another the latter supersedes the former. Unfortunately the vast majority of the beautifully eloquent verses in the Qur’an tend to be at the beginning meaning that they are then superseded by the violent verses.

    There is alot of misconception when it comes to Islam, especially the meaning of Jihad which as far as I’m aware means the inner struggle against humanities innate darker elements in a strive for inner peace which is then reflected to the outside world in all that you do. The other problem is that there is no authority in Islam, there is a vast multitude of different sects and secular authorities who at best disagree with each and at worse massacre each other. Hence why Muslims here in the UK may be okay with their daughters going to school but those in Pakistan and Afghanistan live under constant threat for doing so. When Pakistan was created from the Indian continent to provide a safe homelands for hindus and Muslims alike - the Muslims took the opportunity to butcher hundreds of thousands of Hindus. Consider the apparent “Jihadists” fighting Assad’s regime.

    Let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that Islam is peaceful based purely on the basis that we share a common enemy. Comrades in combat, yes - but a multicultural society with them? None here seriously believe so. The very definitions of the words culture and nation state just that.

    Providing that we do convince some followers of Islam to rally with us in weeding out Jewish influence and ultimately removing Israel what then? It’s clear what, we should send them back to the Middle East, back to their homes that were once destabilized by Israel and help them repair the damage; co-operating together internationally as the best of friends.

    I hope you understand that I say this not out of some kind of bias but merely because I believe cultures need to be segregated for the sake of social cohesion and the integrity of the national community. Perhaps a new culture could be created to facilitate all those in a multicultural society but then again you would be asking people to give up aspects of their own ways of live to assimilate to a broader culture, which would undoubtedly end up defeating the purpose in itself. In theory it sounds good but in practice with a such a diverse country as say the UK or the U.S in practice I think it would be different.

    As for my grandmother’s friend I will certainly try but unfortunately she strikes me as the type who would take one look at the swastika’s on this page and won’t even bother to read the content.

    @John Johnson - Amazing.

  15. AS says:

    “Islam means submission i.e to literally surrender to gods will and when two verses contradict one another the latter supersedes the former”

    All this is dealt with here:

    http://aryanism.net/religion/mohammedanism/

    Our work is to upgrade Muslims from Islam to Ihsan. It is for this reason that I recommend use the term Mohammedanism to refer to the religion itself.

    “the other problem is that there is no authority in Islam”

    Which is why we should aim at becoming the authority. This is covered here:

    http://aryanism.net/politics/geopolitics/

    As a region where many new Muslims are young converts from a wide variety of backgrounds, Europe offers by far the best potential environment for Mohammedanism to separate from traditionalism and return to its original pure condition. Thus, in radical opposition to the Zionist tactic of encouraging Europe to shun Mohammedanism, we must more than merely defend Mohammedanism in Europe – we must offer a vision of Europe as the continent that will intellectually lead Mohammedanism in the future.

    When Hitler hosted the first World Islamic Congress in Berlin, I believe that wasn’t intended to be a one-off event, but the first step of what is outlined above. Then we have the giant mass of intellectual groundwork done by David Myatt that we could build from. What’s missing is the spark to make people feel excited about the potential of such a project.

    Please reply under this post if you wish to discuss this particular topic:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/calling-all-dune-fans/

    “When Pakistan was created from the Indian continent to provide a safe homelands for hindus and Muslims alike – the Muslims took the opportunity to butcher hundreds of thousands of Hindus.”

    Which is why Savitri Devi opposed the partition in the first place, and called for Hindus and Muslims (and Christians) to learn to live together instead.

    “John Matthews and Gulam Mohammad, when allowed to mix freely with us, will like us, if we make ourselves lovable, and like our culture too, if we know how to show them that it is both beautiful and essentially Indian, — and still alive. They would themselves get to desire to call their children by Indian names and build their places of worship in Indian style. How can they do so while we constantly remind them that we do not look upon them as Indians? We accuse them of having no Indian patriotism and we forget that it is ourselves who have knocked it out of them, and who are doing all we can to keep it from coming back.” - Savitri Devi

    “Had we so-called Indian nationalists, treated our Musulman brothers as Indians during even these last fifty years; had we given them the opportunity to know us, to appreciate us, to work with us; had we taught them that our past, our culture, our India are theirs no less than ours, and given them every opportunity of personal development on national lines, along with ourselves, then, we would not have now to fight against any Communal Award, or Pakistan scheme; we would not need a Hindu Mahasabha. It serves us right.” - Savitri Devi

    She failed, and today India and Pakistan are pointing their nukes at each other and Jews are laughing.

    “Let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that Islam is peaceful based purely on the basis that we share a common enemy.”

    A common enemy has nothing to do with it. I have a positive opinion of Islam precisely because it is founded on willingness to fight for honourable causes, while simultaneously discouraging fighting for self-interest. This means willingness to fight against those who fight for self-interest (whomever they may be), which is what is needed for peace.

    “a multicultural society with them?”

    Not a multicultural society, a society of a new, unifying culture based on Aryan ideals, adapted to local heroic archetypes. This is covered at length all over the main site.

    “you would be asking people to give up aspects of their own ways of live”

    Of course I ask that! What did you expect? Our aim is to ennoble culture, which by definition means to discard all that is ignoble from within it. “Way of life” is no defence for unethical behaviour. We are not conservatives/liberals. We are culture-founders.

  16. mandrake says:

    I tend to think that in an autocratic state such multi-culturalism between Islam, Christianity etc could certainly work, since there is an absolute head of state. In a democracy which we have it’s impossible as Islamic peoples (sometimes quite rightly so) look upon the decadent West as the absolute antithesis of the rigid ideals of Islam.

    In a new Aryan society I think it’d be utterly unimportant which path one chooses as their religion. The problem we have is democracy, with it’s destruction we can truly move forward, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist alike.

  17. TheCreativeism says:

    I see, then I am willing to admit I was mistaken. Nothing wrong with a bit of devils advocation however, certainly keeps me on my toes.

    I suppose refining Islam in Europe would certainly give us access to a worldwide network of potential agents to counter ZOG. The EU should be refined in such a way. Removing the commission and EU interference in nation states economies returning the 27 members to autarky. Replace the commission with the leaders of Europe congregating to discuss and act together for what’s in the best interests of Europe.

    Out of curiosity where do you all come from?

    Have you heard what anonymous done to the EDL? I wonder why they didn’t equally publicize the details of extremists so the problem could be nipped in the bud once and for all.

  18. mandrake says:

    I don’t think Anonymous are anything but ZC useful idiots. A bit like the EDL who they’ve allegedly attacked. I don’t understand how they could publish a list of members since it’s not that kind of ‘club’.

    I’m from NE England.

  19. SP says:

    I have bee studying this site for a few months now.

    You guys have really good ideas, and some identical views with regards to true National Socialism as me.

    However, you support George Galloway. You promote multi-racialism, and miscegenation. To me, whilst the structure of the site speaks well of Hitler, National Socialism, and other things, when coming to put the last jigsaw piece into the puzzle, it lets you down. It’s like a cruel hoax, it’s as though you bring in intellectual National Socialists who know the truth about WW2, get them excited, and then change them into ‘multiculturalists’, of some kind, that aim to ‘Use Zion’s ideological weapons’ to their advantage in a hope to destroy them:

    “Making multiculturalism work”… Yeah right. By the time this has happened there will be no more European Caucasoid peoples left anyway, even if Zion has fallen by this time.

    “End Tribalism”… This is hypocritical in regard to National Socialist ethics of ‘flowing with nature’. Nature made all living things on this planet tribal. The world, the universe, the cosmos, is in constant warfare and violence, it’s a fact of life. Why would you go against nature to end tribalism? This is as bad as as the anti-nature ‘multiculturalism’. As much as tribalism leads to intense hatred, and extreme protectionism of a particular racial group, this can be managed with a good sense of non-Zionist education - ‘To respect your own biology, and respect other biology’s’.

    The above is just a snippet, of what I have read.

    I would like some answers to my quarrels, as in my opinion, whilst this site has amazing literary, and half truths, you are most likely a stooge website set up by Jews themselves. (Your website is not listed by ADL or JIDF, and you seem well financed and professional).

    What I am saying is, and this is usually what it comes down to: If you were really exposing the truth, you would be either dead, or your website would be ripped out of the sky within hours.

    I am sure other people agree with me, so I would hope these people also comment.

    Kind regards,

    SP

  20. AS says:

    SP, since you have decided to be more polite this time, I will answer your queries.

    “you support George Galloway”

    George Galloway is far from ideal, but his fans are the kind of people we want in our movement.

    “You promote multi-racialism, and miscegenation.”

    Do we? We want to Aryanize society, and we are against Aryans reproducing with Jews and Gentiles. Race means QUALITY, not ethnicity.

    ‘multiculturalists’

    No, we promote a single culture, specifically the culture that will be created from our ideology.

    “Making multiculturalism work”

    Where do we say that? We have repeatedly said that multiculturalism is the culprit behind the failure of people of different backgrounds to unify. The very WORD “multiculturalism” suggests perpetual division, the opposite of unification.

    “Nature made all living things on this planet tribal.”

    So why have a certain fraction of people in all civilizations throughout history, and always the most superior fraction, felt innate disgust whenever we witnessed it?

    “We notice that, from those very civilizations in which cannibalism was generally admitted, sprang, now and then, a few individuals — an infinitesimal, powerless minority — whom the custom disgusted. And from amidst a world in which slavery was considered as a necessary evil by respectable people, sprang a few individuals who condemned it, either openly or secretly, in the name of human dignity. And we see that it is the opinion of those better individuals that finally triumphed. … To those to whom the age-old exploitation of animals seems normal just because it is practically universal and as old as man, we shall say that there are today people who strongly disapprove of it — never mind if they be but a handful scattered among millions of human beings still at a more barbaric stage of evolution.” - Savitri Devi

    This fraction was a product of Nature no less than anything else, so it is simply untrue that Nature made all things tribal. With that said, we are quite certain that Nature will eliminate these innate universalists (ie. us) over time - that is, unless we are willing to fight for our universalism, and win. And the only way we can win is to unite as a folk under the banner of universalism. From this comes our motto: UNITY THROUGH NOBILITY.

    “The world, the universe, the cosmos, is in constant warfare and violence, it’s a fact of life.”

    And we readily accept this fact of life and join this war, fighting against tribalists. Don’t mistake us for hippies who believe everyone will learn to be universalist one day. No, many people will NOT learn; they don’t have the genetics for it. We will have to prevent them from reproducing. And we will fight them, if necessary, to stop them from reproducing. That is our warfare.

    “Why would you go against nature to end tribalism?”

    Because it would be ignoble not to do so. Our Aryan blood compels us to conquer and eliminate inferior blood. Our mistake in the past was to believe that the inferior could be raised to our level through education and/or legislation. National Socialism is the declaration that we are not going to make that mistake again.

    “‘To respect your own biology, and respect other biology’s’.”

    I have no respect whatsoever for Jewish biology. Or Gentile biology, for that matter. I have no respect for any biology that produces in its carriers anything less than universal compassion.

  21. Anthony says:

    I agree with TheCreativeism about his grandmother’s friend. The vast majority of Leftists are going to have no interest in our movement because of the symbolism. Furthermore, Gentiles have a tendency to submit to the dominant authority and try to adopt their values since they are impressed by displays of power and have a conformist mentality. The previous few generations have grown up with Liberalism as the mainstream ideology, so we can expect many people who call themselves Liberals to be Gentiles trying to fit in with society. I also have a theory that Aryans have become more cowardly over time, since the ones that are brave enough to profess Aryan values in a non-Aryan society end up being killed, and bravery is hence selected against in the Aryan population. This has led to a situation where very few people have the guts to say that Hitler wasn’t such a ba guy and the swastika is not an evil symbol.

  22. mandrake says:

    Agreed Anthony, unfortunately as I have seen very recently the vast majority won’t and can’t process the fact about the Shoah, even the ‘oi, she’s a facckin Paki’ mob of ignorant racist EDL morons draw their bigotry lines at the ‘holy’ Holocaust.. interesting, seems the 16 years of brainwashing has really worked.

  23. Anthony says:

    Do you mean 60 years?

  24. AS says:

    “The vast majority of Leftists are going to have no interest in our movement because of the symbolism.”

    This is why Jason has been working on a non-Third-Reich themed True Left site. We would be recruiting leaders here and followers from that site. By the way, how is that going, Jason? (Respond in private if you prefer.)

    “The previous few generations have grown up with Liberalism as the mainstream ideology, so we can expect many people who call themselves Liberals to be Gentiles trying to fit in with society.”

    Anthony, what are your views on the homophobia rallies in France in relation to your theory? I think they indicate that liberalism is in decline. As the pressure to fit in with liberal society is removed, so more and more liberals will reveal their Gentile true colours as time goes on.

    The final paragraph here also touches on this point:

    http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/tribalism-vs-universalism/

    Universal compassion cannot be taught. A tribalist can understand the reasoning behind universal compassion, but merely in the way that a deaf person can understand musical notation. The tribalist will not feel what the universalist feels. Conversely, a universalist need never learn to feel this way; it is impossible for him to feel otherwise. It is, however, possible for each to feign the outward behaviour of the other depending on social trends. If we are now seeing a trend towards tribalism, we are rightly disheartened, but we can also take hope, as the decreasing fashionability of universalism must mean that only the most ideologically dedicated universalists will heed our message and join our movement. Such tribulations will ultimately make us stronger and more ready to face our enemies.

  25. Anthony says:

    I really hope people do revert to their true nature as soon as possible so we can be rid of this absurdity and insincerity. I can’t speak for France specifically because I don’t speak French, have never lived in France, have hardly any French friends and hence have no feel for what French culture and politics has been like in recent decades. I was only talking about the Anglosphere. I’m still not sure it will completely die out though. You still find lot of annoying Liberal types in their 20s and teens.

  26. mandrake says:

    No I meant 16, 16 years of mandatory schooling.

  27. Anthony says:

    I should add that I think the entire gay marriage argument is absurd. Marriage is a religious term. If a legislator decides that a given interpretation of a religious idea is the correct one, this doesn’t make it so. A legislator can no more decide what Jesus thought the meaning and purpose of marriage was than it can decide whether I prefer football to rugby or fruit to cereal. Since legislation has no bearing on whether a religious or philosophical idea is true or false, these things should be left to individuals to interpret. What if marriage was never intended to be an expression of love anyway, and was just intended (for example) to be a system to reduce inbreeding? Since gays do not breed, this system would not be relevant to them.

    I am not against an official state church/ religion, since I am against the idea that legislation can decide the truth or falsity of a religious/ philosophical concept, but am not against an organisation saying ‘This is our official opinion on the matter’ as long as they do not have the presumption to think they can settle the question by legislation. In this scenario, there would be an official Church reflecting the state’s position, but other sects and religions would be tolerated. Diverse sects and religions are tolerated now (although in France certain religions, such as Scientology, are banned), and if gays wanted to they could start a sect that allows gay marriage. Since legislation cannot truly decide what marriage is and it is up to individuals to interpret these things, the problem would be solved. The only real issue is that the main Church which is opposed to gay marriage would still have all the best buildings, and this is an issue that could be solved by an official Church but without demanding uniform belief.

    I think the state can legislate universally to give equal benefits to gay partnerships and traditional marriages, since then they are not attempting to legislate on moral truth. It would still be legal for people to think gay partnerships were wrong - the government would be allowing them without demanding that people believe in it, in contrast to the gay marriage idea where people are saying the government should be legislating on whether something is right or wrong. Saying that moral questions can be decide by the law is really not very different to people like Sam Harris saying they can be decided by ‘science’.

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