Extract from LOTR:
Boromir got up and walked about impatiently. “So you go on,” he cried, “Gandalf, Elrond, all these folk have taught you to say so. For themselves they may be right. These Elves and half Elves and wizards, they would come to grief perhaps. Yet often I doubt if they are wise and not merely timid. But each to his own kind. True hearted Men, they will not be corrupted. We of Minas Tirith have been staunch through long years of trial. We do not desire the power of wizard lords, only strength to defend ourselves, strength in a just cause. And behold! in our need chance brings to light the Ring of Power. It is a gift, I say; a gift to the foes of Mordor. It is mad not to use it, to use the power of the Enemy against him. The fearless, the ruthless, these alone will achieve victory. What could not a warrior do in this hour, a great leader? What could not Aragorn do? Or if he refuses, why not Boromir?”
It seems I can’t leave this place alone for half a week.
Longinus says:
It was dishonest of your crew to highjack the genuine Aryanist images and Adolf Hitler’s quotes to promote well known and established niggerloving ideology. Yes, you are the elite - the elite of race-Iscariots! Goodbye and may God have mercy on your souls.
I am glad that Longinus has at least followed my advice to pick a side. Now that he has picked the Gentile side, we know not to work with him any more. I will, for the sake of argument, assume Longinus is not a Zionist agent, and not Jewish. Having said that, I am thoroughly convinced that, had Longinus been born to Jewish parents, he would be fighting for Israel with the same phallic enthusiasm as he now fights for Europe. Indeed, with fantasies to “starve the entire middle east to death“, he’d fit right in with the Palestinian-starving IDF.
Longinus accuses us of promoting “niggerloving ideology“. Indeed we have no problem with black people. Neither did Hitler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi5ogL_nl-g
I thought we had left anthropology behind long ago, but it seems not. Apparently some people still think that Europe was EMPTY when the prehistoric Aryans arrived along the Danube. That is what it comes down to: the notion that Aryans elsewhere in the world are mixed while those in Europe are unmixed. This is completely false. Europe, just like Asia and Africa and everywhere else, was already populated by Paleolithic peoples (the ones we call Gentiles). The Aryans mixed with the European Gentiles just as they mixed with the Asian Gentiles, African Gentiles, etc.. There is nothing special about Europeans as far as Aryan genetic diffusion is concerned. Genetically, Europe has always been mostly Gentile. It is about as Aryan as it is Jewish. Hence:
“Every national body is made up of three main classes. At one extreme we have the best of the people, taking the word ‘best’ here to indicate those who are highly endowed with the civic virtues and are noted for their courage and their readiness to sacrifice their private interests. At the other extreme are the worst dregs of humanity, in whom vice and egotistic interests prevail. Between these two extremes stands the third class, which is made up of the broad middle stratum, who do not represent radiant heroism or vulgar vice.” - Adolf Hitler
“A people, taken en masse, is neither wholly good nor wholly bad. It possesses neither the courage to be wholly admirable nor the wickedness to be wholly evil. It is the extremes at each end of the scale that decide the level of the average.” - Adolf Hitler
Aryanism is about getting the first category of people, of every ethnicity, seeing themselves as one folk (and indeed one submerged Aryan race) with a common purpose of raising the level of the average, countering the efforts of international Jewry to lower it. There is nothing special about the European ethnicities, or whiteness, in this struggle.
Aryans:
“It is the Aryan who has furnished the great building-stones and plans for the edifices of all human progress; only the way in which these plans have been executed is to be attributed to the qualities of each individual race.” - Adolf Hitler
Whites:
“The white races did, of course, give some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our own modern world - materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis.” - Adolf Hitler
See a difference?
Your self-assumed nobility backed only by moralism does not except you from universal carnage
I respond with a quote from the main site:
We understand that conflict is inevitable in the near future; our concern is that the conflict involves morally meaningful sides rather than a bunch of tribes all fighting for the same thing and for the same reason, namely for their own tribe because it is their own tribe. We recommend that the universalists (also known as Aryans) of every ethnicity, religion and nation oppose the tribalists – all tribalists, Gentiles as well as Jews – within all our denominations.
http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/tribalism-vs-universalism/
In other words, bring on the carnage, but we draw the lines of opposition differently than you.
In racialist Empire people would have race id card without witch they wouldn’t be able to use public services. If they refuse to moove out they can die of thirst and hunger in the street
Thank you for trying to sell us the Mark of the Beast. (“Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or on the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.”) This is of course the Zionist plan: get people hating immigrants so much that they are willing to allow government to install unprecedented surveillance and control mechanisms necessary to deport immigrants, and after the immigrants are gone, the surveillance and control remain in place, and the Orwellian era begins. The only countermeasure is for people to reject the anti-immigrant propaganda in the first place, and instead treat the situation as a population issue, not an immigration issue.
William Luther Pierce
My leader is John Alan Martinson Jr.. You follow your leader, I will follow mine, and we’ll see what happens.
>>>Hitler, inter-racial anti-zionist unity:
I proposed something like that here:
http://thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=63748
…and was successfully debunked here:
http://thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=888704&postcount=26
>>>the Mark of the Beast
You don’t believe a just, Platonic state is possible. I could not disagree more. That is the Colonial, American-like, “freedom-loving” distrust toward state authority and hierarchy that has led to the fall of Medieval Christendom of Europe. All-surveillance is bad only when it is the Jew or some other degenerate who is behind the camera. I wouldn’t mind being controlled by truly good and virtuous men. Only those who are guilty or corrupt have some reason to hide from society.
>>>John Alan Martinson Jr.
Is that the fellow who waved with some book called “Black Power” on youtube and yelled something like “Stay out of Africa”? Why is it racism/tribalism only when whites want their own lebensraum?
Mein Minister of Propaganda!
Good to have you back. The photo does say it all. Where have you been? It has seemed like an eternity.
JAM walks, talks, acts and leads like the Fuhrer. Deduction: JAM is an Incarnation of the Spirit of Adolf Hitler on this earth. And you are his “Goebbels.”
JAM speaks the penetrating abstractions we men prefer. He is somewhat short on specifics. He speaks of Noble Warrior Nationalism to establish a New Folk with its own optimum unity of Nation, Race and Religion. Is he thereby commanding the KINGSHIP of confederal government, universalist anti-racist SS-like race breeding and trinitarian Christian religion with its ROYAL corporatist economics and its KINGLY Roman and/or English Law? Answer!!
He speaks of Monarchy yet you apparently detest “Empire.” Reich is usually translated into English as “Empire.” Know that Reich-Empire or Imperium does not mean “European colonial empires” (much less the existing Ziobot Global Bloodbath!), but instead requires strong rootedness in its own Blut und Boden. Emperor Frederick II did not chase about Africa catching Negroes but instead employed Muslims to enforce his Imperial Will when the white natives proved too Boromir to get off their undisciplined fat asses. Adolf Hitler did much the same. What is JAM’s and your take on the Imperial Authority and its relationship to the Fuhrer Principle?
I perceive your clarity with boundless admiration. In my bookish dullness I could quibble about insignificant genealogical details involving the ancient dead. I would then be guilty of contempt against what has ALWAYS been the view of European Nobility towards their not-so-fair racially impure commoners. (All true farmer-warriors are race-pure noblemen; true racially-pure titled aristocrats have simply been the “big farmers.”) Yours IS a voice of our Noble European ancestors. Jesus Christ and the ghost of Nietszche nod their approval.
I await your lightening bolts.
HEIL HITLER
Kamerad Longinus,
I feel for you. Your heart is brave! Know that you are ignorant of what the Fuhrer means in his Mein Kamph. My family were local leaders in the American Bund; my personal familiarity with the text and its morals, manners and customs is much greater than yours. Your quotes concern admonitions against provincialism, promiscuity, illegal immigration, “the idiotic bourgeoisie” and racial integrationism. In the short chapter “Citizens and Subjects” the discussion concerns the rights of certain races to become citizens. It does not say they could not become citizens if the State wished to grant it, merely that there should not be any automatic inclusions apart from what a State had previously determined to be in its own self-interest. Nowhere does the Fuhrer say that the German State would lack the authority to grant citizenship to an African if it determined that this were in the interests of the German Nation.
AS has repeatedly stated we Aryanists are opposed to the existing multicultural “salad bowl.” Perhaps you are not aware of the historic mainstream European approach to social life between different races. It is a moderate racial segregation in private life to protect women and children of all races from all “barn yard Romeos” of other races. In public life there was little concern for this because public life was generally a matter of male interactions that had no relevance to demography. The emphasis when separating people to uphold biological standards was between the sexes, not actually between the races. Note that it is frivolous “sex mixing” that leads to bastardization, not any social “race mixing” between men. Our European ancestors were smart enough to observe this and the Fuhrer was among them.
As for anthropological issues, it would be best if we could leave that to more professional Aryans. If we should find an Aryan anthropologist who would contribute to this blog, we could then direct our queries to him. Evidently neither of us is that knowledgeable about anthropology. The book “Adolf Hitler, El Ultimo Avatar” by Miguel Serrano, that I am translating from the Spanish, does have much of interest to say about these questions. Serrano was a wealthy upper-class National Socialist Chilean diplomat who had much more leisure to investigate these mysteries than either of us could ever hope to have.
“The Holocaust, an event that I had confirmed never happened, it could never have occured.” - JAM
You see, that is what we need. Honesty.
Great post here AS, just re-read it, apt analogy with LOTR, and timely advise.
You are best known by your enemy no.1.
Some jews are pariahs and tribalists like religious orthodox jews and hawkish Israelis. If Aryanists chose to oppose them the first I can only compliment this. But to my mind the most dangerous types are anti-identity ideologues.
Like this old rodent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_a-25MhRuk&feature=player_embedded
Was she honest or dishonest about her agenda? I also believe she was lying but really do not care even if she was honest because I hate her promiscuous agitation. The international jew is my enemy no.1.
Kamerad Longinus,
You are on to something important here. That “old rodent” in the vid you attached is all too “honestly” filled with envious malice against all non-Chosens! Do not kid yourself: she would slit any Aryan’s throat in an instant if only she could. She is not a good person.
My sense of the nationalist issue you are dealing with in your above comments can be illustrated by two very opposite nationalist groups in Sweden. The Swedish Democrats are ultra-judaized poison who are our worst enemies in Sweden. Yet the similar-sounding National Democratic Party of Sweden is actually pretty good and even proto-Aryanist. They describe themselves as “ethno-pluralist” Swedish nationalists. That sounds good to me. It’s non-materialist and Mendelian, as opposed to a materialist Darwinist “ethno-monist” approach. But it is also essential to see that any Western nationalism must fit into a larger ethno-pluralist European Nationalism and that even this must be part of a UNIVERSAL NOBILITY OR ARYANISM that has Universal Compassion for ALL sentient beings.
“Pan-Slavic Pride,” “Hispanidad,” “Francite,” “Pan-Turanianism,” “Negritude,” “Nordic Pride,” etcetera, are all good if they achieve this larger UNIVERSAL awareness. But the ARYAN KNIGHTHOOD must itself emphasize “Unity Through Nobility.” Otherwise we lose the moral high ground and have less chance in this world that a snowball in Hell!
oregoncoug says:
“Know that you are ignorant of what the Fuhrer means in his Mein Kamph. My family were local leaders in the American Bund; my personal familiarity with the text and its morals, manners and customs is much greater than yours.”
Can you verify, to whatever the degree may be, the authenticity of “Hitler’s Table Talk”?
Vik,
To the best of my understanding, the authentic status of Table Talk is that of a forgery that nevertheless has some relevance to the Fuhrer’s views. The evidence indicates that, at the instigation of Martin Bormann, there were notes taken of Hitler’s private dinner speeches during the War, that the results of this note-taking were assembled and edited by Martin Bormann and published in German, translated into French by François Genoud and finally published in an English translation of Genoud’s French translation, in an altered form significantly different from Bormann’s edited German original. The most anti-Christian passages of the English translation of Table Talk were not present in the German version and Martin Bormann was entirely capable of considerably altering the Fuhrer’s words to fit into Bormann’s own much earthier mind-set.
Basically the entire content of Hitler’s Table Talk and of Hitler’s Last Testament that forms a part of it faithfully represents the thought of Martin Bormann, not of Adolf Hitler. The Fuhrer’s own views are faithfully recorded in Mein Kamph and his many public speeches as well as in various reliable private reminiscenses recorded by many others. All of the other records are in perfect consistency with the views of an up-to-the-minute Bavarian Roman Catholic soldier and gentleman of those years, including the evident interest in rune magic and Madame Blavatsky. A photo of the Fuhrer and Eva Braun from the early 30s shows a young Catholic couple altogether above and beyond the call in their utterly noble fashionable contemporariness in terms of the Roman Catholic and South German world of that time.
Nevertheless Table Talk is quite relevant. Martin Bormann was a most important figure in the Third Reich. I see him as heir to the legacy of Martin Luther and General Erich Ludendorff and thereby the embodiment of Lutheran Northern Germany and of the Protestant rank and file of the German Nazi Party. His edition of Table Talk therefore does represent a widespread view of Hitler among the German Protestant semi-pagan Nazi rank and file. It could be understood as the views of would-be Boromirs entranced by the Orphic Hymns of Our Beloved Fuhrer. Table Talk is an irreplacable record of that German song as heard by the foremost Protestant of the Nazi Party.
In so far as evidence exists it appears that Bormann did flee Berlin into the Alps where his assistant Wilhelm Zander was captured by the Allies. The alleged death of Bormann was probably a cover up arranged by Willy Brandt in cooperation with Brandt’s “guardian angel” Otto Skorzeny. Apparently Bormann escaped to the Antipodes and to a destiny as yet unknown, no doubt together with his Fuhrer.
Thanks for the info.
oregoncoug
Your mentioning Sverige Demokraterna which i believe never would have gotten into the government if they didnt have their pro juden hypocrism and photo parade of jewloving anti holocost fanboys. They have been attacked and censured and not been allowed any time in the media, on an extreme level. You are right about National Demokraterna being pretty good, but there’s another you might missed, Svenskarnas Parti (the swedes party). I believe that a nationalist party could get up to 10% of the votes here if they get out and turn some people from voting for their wallet and inform people to stop swallowing their lies. SD got about 6% of the votes. Worth noting that a well known party here with almost none agenda only jibberish and old politicians with none knowledge of reality or their politics get more votes. A youth group of a nationalist movement went out and targeted that party intervued, reviewed, ads, ridiculed their ads. Every politician they got in touch with had no idea of their own politics.
I beg to differ about the Swedish political party Nationaldemokraterna (National Democratic Party). They are not “good” in any way thinkable. It’s a racists’ party, a Nazi party (Nazi, not National Socialist). If you are familiar with the Swedish language just take a stroll through their website, and you’ll stumble upon one of their articles that is named “immigranterna, våldtäckningarna, sanningen” (the immigrants, the rapes, the truth). This is a very reoccurring theme in Swedish Nazi propaganda, and the article really adds nothing new. Nonetheless, here’s a quote from the article:
“The government tries to hide the truth.
Authorities, schools and media have tried to hide how bad it really is. That many rapes have a ethnic.. a racist dimension, has been denied or argued away.”
I will go no further than that, simply combine that with the name of the article, then add some of their anti-Jihad articles, and what we have here is nothing but a party “fighting racism” with racism.
Oregoncoug, you mentioned that they described themselves as “ethno-pluralist”, but I’m having a hard time actually finding anything to back that up. All that I can find on their website are articles about crimes committed by immigrants and the threat of Islam.
Also, this video (promoted on their website) of Nick Griffin paying them a visit may interest you all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnnPNoK3PCI&feature=player_embedded
Find me a Swedish Aryanist alternative and I will support them, but these folks are nothing but a plague upon our lands.
As for Svenskarnas Parti (the Swedes party) they seem to be gentile tribalists as well. Taking a look at their point-programme the first article is:
“1, Sverige skall även i framtiden vara svenskt: Endast människor som tillhör det västerländska genetiska och kulturella arvet, där de etniska svenskarna ingår, skall kunna vara svenska medborgare.”
(1, Sweden shall remain Swedish in the future as well: Only people who belong to the western genetic and cultural heritage, where the ethnic Swedes are included, shall be able to be Swedish citizens.)
A further development of that article (it’s available on their website) reads:
“[...]För alla folks långsiktiga överlevnad krävs ett eget etniskt homogent livsrum, då det är ett generellt kriterium för överlevnad varför det knappast är något anmärkningsvärt att även svenskarna värnar sin egna fortlevnad. Svenskarnas parti förespråkar därför en avveckling av den mångkultur som genomsyrar dagens samhälle och som otvivelaktigt leder såväl svenskarna som det svenska samhället i fördärvet.[...]”
(“[...]For all peoples long-term survival a ethnically homogeneous lebensraum is required, because it is a general criteria for survival it is hardly notable that the Swedes as well wants to ensure their survival.
The Swedes party hence promotes a removal of the multiculture that impregnates today’s society and that undoubtedly leads the Swedes and the Swedish society to damnation.[...]“)
There are a few articles on their programme that sounds good, but it’s hard to find a party that does no good at all. I believe that the Swedes party have no intention whatsoever to fight demographic violence and/or improve the so-called ethnic Swedes racially. Ensuring that the Swedes keep their white skin and blonde hair seems to be their main objective, at least that’s what I believe after reviewing their website (that includes anti-Immigrant propaganda as well (that portrays them as violent, raping and pillaging demons, making it sound like they are all that is wrong with this country)).
Targeted: I may as well be honest and admit we share a very similar opinion concerning Swedish politics. The Swedes Party are classic National Liberals or constructive rationalists who we could certainly do business with. The National Democrats share my own prejudices although with greater Nordic bluntness than I would feel - but then they’re Swedes so that’s to be expected!
Afzal; The Swedes Party are only National Liberals. Therefore they are greedy capitalists of low morals and about as good as such people get. They are very important people who will someday be the productive merchants of an Aryan Sweden, until capitalism is overcome and fades away as it will. But they are about as virtuous as bourgeois can be and we would be fortunate to have them as allies. The National Democrats are only laymen and gruff sons of the peasantry. They associate with a horrible Goy like Nick Griffin because that is in their political interest and they are as kind to Muslims as Swedish peasants are ever likely to become. In my opinion their moral level is amazingly high and their manners are outstanding for commoners The sensitivity you want from them is something only clergymen would achieve, and then with some effort and after years of training. They carefully qualify their comments about Muslims to exclude disrespecting the religion, Muslims outside of Sweden or any suggestion Muslims as such would not be welcome in Sweden. They simply propose to regulate minorities according to the interests of the State in accordance with the Fuhrer’s compassionately truthful ideas as presented in Mein Kamph. Muslims who move to Sweden need to be more thoughtful about their travel plans and anticipate some coming rudeness from Vikings. Muslims are much more welcome in Germany but less so in places like Sweden or Switzerland. It is important to be in touch with reality! The real “plague upon our lands” are the Swedish Democrats and those like them who actually are monstrous Goy fifth columnists of the Judenstaadt. You would be most effective if you could reserve your ammo for them because they are your true enemies. They are the only ones of those you’ve mentioned who would actually (gleefully!) massacre Muslims and other immigrants in Sweden and incite wars of religion and race against them elsewhere. It is a mistake to mix these three parties together as if they were all your foes and only our Swedish Democrat judaic enemy benefits from such deadly miscalculations. We are fighting for civilization only because life on earth is not usually refined nor generally polite…
Oregoncoug: Of course the Swedish Democrats will always be the main threat, but the National Democratic Party and the Swedes Party aren’t great influences of the universalism that we’d want to see either. You mentioned that “they carefully qualify their comments about Muslims to exclude disrespecting the religion”, but that is inaccurate, as they firmly believe that it is because of their religion they are such brutes. Your comment about that “they are as kind to Muslims as Swedish peasants are ever likely to become”, I hope wasn’t supposed to be taken literally, for if so it would be a very offensive statement, as there lies great potential in our people, even in the lowliest.
But the Swedish Democrats are the one’s to blame if that’d ever happen. After all, they are the one’s who have been feeding the fires of discontent, hate and fear in Sweden this last decade, and they are growing in a alarming rate and must be dealt with swiftly. I agree with you, I have not come here to draw attention away from the Swedish Democrats, for they and their Judaic superiors are the ones who brought the pestilence here in the first place. I am merely stating that there are no Aryanist parties in Sweden as you made it sound when you first wrote: “Yet the similar-sounding National Democratic Party of Sweden is actually pretty good and even proto-Aryanist. They describe themselves as ‘ethno-pluralist’ Swedish nationalists. That sounds good to me.” And that worried me into believing that you could actually see them as beneficial for the Aryanist struggle on their own, without any real Aryanist influence. But as allies, as you now put it, I too see that they could be beneficial for the entire world. I apologize for the misunderstanding, but you startled me!
Afzal: Thank you for your excellent information. This topic is exceptionally relevant to our analyses of Aryanism moving forward. My jibe about “Swedish peasants” is NOT meant to be literal! It expresses an age-old attitude of European aristocrats towards peasantry that combines permanent admiration with a certain exasperation about a frequent peasant lack of imagination which seems to fit the National Democrats well. (Good farmer jibes about aristocrats are more humorous and much more accurate.) Their good manners earn my praise because it is never easy for successful workingmen like them to be so well-educated and their eloquent condemnation of the Afghan War shows a rare degree of respect for the Muslims of that far-away country.
Certainly they are not noble men and their nationalism can never be permitted within Aryanism, but their view of Islam as brutal, although a disastrous error, probably shows their less-than-Aryan piety which might be inevitable among non-Aryans subject to Fate. They may be the best reason for Aryanism in Sweden because they appear to have a promising future and who but Aryanists can guide them in a civilized direction? Sometimes it is best to keep the most DANGEROUS men as allies very close by.
Looks like Wotanism is riding the storm clouds over Scandinavia… Only Wagnerian Aryanism will be powerful enough to teach those Viking allies some Roman Law and Order and perhaps even transform them into Aryans.
Again thank you for your most helpful insights.