Racial Jewishness (archive from True Left forum)

1) Jewish intelligence:

psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-03287-001

A newly released multivariate polygenic score for educational attainment, cognitive ability, and self-rated mathematical ability in the Wisconsin Longitudinal Study was examined as a mediator of the group difference between Jews (n = 53) and 2 Christian denominations, Catholics (n = 2,603) and Lutherans (n = 2,027), with respect to educational attainment, IQ, and performance on a similarities measure. It was found that the Jewish performance advantage over both Catholics and Lutherans with respect to all 3 measures was partially and significantly mediated by group differences in the polygenic score. This result is consistent with the prediction that the high average cognitive ability of Jews may have been shaped, in part, by polygenic selection acting on this population over the course of several millennia.

Further information:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/papers/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf

The Jewish perspective on the issue:

www.jewishmag.com/115mag/smartjews/smartjews.htm

Why Are Jews So Smart?

By Lewis Regenstein

The question has intrigued and baffled researchers for centuries. We all know people who defy the stereotype, yet it persists, demanding our attention.

It leaves us wondering whether there is validity to the widespread belief that Jews are so much smarter than other people

But there can be little doubt that Jews have for centuries been substantially over-represented in many fields of learning and accomplishment. One must wonder, how could such a tiny, numerically insignificant group produce so many of the world’s smartest, most accomplished, and most influential people?

Jews comprise an amazing number of history’s most important figures, people who have had a profound impact on humanity: the Patriarch Abraham, whose life and teachings are considered sacred by Jews, Christians, and Moslems; Moses, the lawgiver to Jews and Christians; Jesus and his disciple, Paul, who founded and spread Christianity.

Looking back into the 20th century alone, one can clearly see that Jews have played many a key role in shaping the modern world (if not always in a positive way): physicist Albert Einstein; the father of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud; Communism’s Karl Marx; developers of the polio vaccine Dr’s Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin; and the leading developers of the first atomic bomb, as inspired by Einstein’s theories – among them, Felix Bloch, Niels Bohr, Otto Frisch, Robert Oppenheimer, Leo Szilard, and Edward Teller.

Indeed, Jews were so dominant in the field of nuclear physics in Europe throughout the 1930’s that it was often referred to as “Jewish physics.”

There is even some evidence of Elvis’ having Jewish ancestry!

Jews may not be history’s most popular people, but no other group has even come close to matching, proportionally, Jewish abilities and accomplishments.

Combined with other commonly perceived Jewish traits such as ambition, curiosity, energy, imagination, and persistence, Jewish intelligence has elevated an incredible number of Jews to the top ranks of various fields.

Consider the following:

~The proportion of Jews with IQ’s of 140 or more is estimated to be about six times the proportion of any other ethnic group.

~ Although Jews constitute only about two-tenths of one percent of the world’s population, Jews won 29 percent of the Nobel Prizes in literature, medicine, physics and chemistry in the second half of the 20th century. So far this century, the figure is 32 percent. And these Jews of whom we speak were almost exclusively male Jews primarily of western European ancestry (less than one-tenth of one percent of the world’s population), in spite of pervasive discrimination, numerous legal barriers, frequent persecution, and the Holocaust.

~From 1870 until 1950, Jewish leadership in such fields as literature, music, visual arts, biology, chemistry, physics, mathematics, and philosophy equaled somewhere from four to fourteen times the Jewish proportion of the population in Europe and North America.

~In 1954, 28 children in the New York City public school system were found to have IQ’s of 170 or higher – 24 of these were Jewish.

And, of course, the extraordinarily high proportion of Jews in such fields as medicine, law, finance, literature, science, creative arts and the media is as obvious as it is astonishing. To some, these facts are awkward and even embarrassing, feeding stereotypes of “crafty” and “clever” Jews good at making money and flaunting their superiority to non-Jews. Indeed, the subject – the fact, if you will now allow — of Jewish intellectual superiority is rarely if ever discussed in Jewish publications.

To explain this, we have a self-described “Scots-Irish gentile from Iowa,” Charles Murray of the American Enterprise Institute, author of the solidly documented “The Bell Curve”, which in 1994 stirred up a storm of controversy by discussing in not always politically correct language “differences in intellectual capacity among people and groups, and what those differences mean for America’s future.”

Murray has recently written a brilliant and convincing essay for the respected Jewish publication “Commentary,” on “Jewish Genius,” citing many of the above facts and material on which this article is based . This is the first time the magazine has systematically discussed this normally taboo topic that so many Jews are reluctant publicly to acknowledge.

Murray observes that the two most influential works of literature ever were written by and about Jews: the Hebrew and the Christian bibles, the so-called Old and New Testaments, and he goes on to cite numerous other examples of what can only be called Jewish intellectual supremacy.

Murray argues persuasively that “elevated Jewish intelligence is grounded in genetics” rather than being environmentally caused (by such factors as having books in the home), and that it is ‘substantially heritable.” And Jews, especially the Ashkenazim of central and western Europe, have been engaging for centuries in what basically amounts to selective mating and merging genes to produce children of high intelligence.

The Talmud (Pesahim 49a) says that “A man should sell all he possesses in order to marry the daughter of a scholar, as well as marry his daughter to a scholar.” In the Jewish community of the Middle Ages, the smartest men often became rabbis, and these learned men of high status were able to marry the daughters of successful merchants, thus “selecting” in favor of high intelligence.

At the same time, Christians were doing just the opposite: priests and monks of the dominant Roman Catholic Church – also usually among the best and brightest in their communities– were prohibited from marrying, thus “selecting out” through celibacy most of these intellectually superior men from the gene pool.

Murray also observes that “Sephardi Jews rose to distinction in many of the countries where they settled. Some economic historians have traced the decline of Spain after 1500 [following the expulsion of the Jews], and the subsequent rise of the Netherlands, in part to the Sephardi commercial talent that was transferred from one to the other.”

Murray’s scholarly and extensively documented article cites many other reasons for Jewish intellectual superiority in verbal and reasoning skills, including two crucial factors, which are often overlooked.

The most important of these can be found in an article entitled, “Jewish Occupational Selection,” and written by two scholars, Maristella Botticini and Zvi Eckstein. They focus on a decree issued in 64 C.E. by the martyred sage Joshua ben Gamla, high priest in the last years of the Second Temple, requiring that all males be enrolled in school by age six. The ordinance was largely adhered to, and, in the words of Murray, “Within about a century, the Jews, uniquely among the peoples of the world, had effectively established universal male literacy and numeracy.”

Moreover, throughout the centuries, Jewish males have had to study and learn the law, a process one never completes, and to read –often aloud in public — in order to practice their faith and teach their children. Murray speculates that many Jews of low intelligence, who could not read well or fulfill the intellectual demands of their religion, tended to drift away from it.

Murray also cites a thesis of the geneticist Cyril Darlington, arguing that Jews were “decisively shaped much earlier,” during the period of the fall of Jerusalem and captivity under Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C.E. According to the Bible (2 Kings 24:10-14), only the elite among the Israelites were taken to Babylon, leaving behind the unskilled and presumably less intelligent. The king “carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the mighty men of valour… and all the craftsmen and the smiths; none remained, save the poorest sort of the people of the land.”

By the time the Israelites returned more than a century later, many of those who had remained had been killed off or had married foreigners and been absorbed by other peoples. The returned exiles reconstituted a Jewish community comprised largely of descendants of its most intelligent members. Ever since, practicing Jews have continued to try to perpetuate their “ethnic purity,” usually marrying within their own group, and resisting intermarriage with and assimilation by their neighbors.

But, still not satisfied by the evidence he so impressively presents, Murray continues to wonder about the intellectual prowess demonstrated from the very beginning by the Jewish people. “Why should one particular tribe at the time of Moses, living in the same environment as other nomadic and agricultural peoples of the Middle East, have already evolved elevated intelligence when others did not?”

The answer, speculates Murray, may be his “happily irrefutable’ hypothesis, drawn from the Jews’ earliest and most famous literary work: “The Jews are God’s chosen people.”

slate.com/technology/2007/11/jewish-intelligence-jewish-genes-and-jewish-values.html

Jewgenics

This is an excellent word which we should all start using from now on to refer to genetic IQ maximization (which of course we are opposed to).

According to Entine, the rate of Jewish “outbreeding”—procreating with non-Jews—is half a percent. That’s the lowest rate of any population in the world today. What drives this phenomenon? Culture. Ten years ago, my childless Orthodox uncle came up to me and said, “I hear you’re dating a Jewish girl.” When I replied in the affirmative, he added, “If you marry her, I’ll come to the wedding.” That was pretty much the whole conversation. A year and a half later, he was at my wedding. Today, he’s got a grandniece and grandnephew living in my house. I’d like to think he had no influence, but maybe I’m kidding myself. Explicitly and implicitly, Jews have been getting this message for millennia. As Murray pointed out, the Bible is full of instructions to marry within the faith.

A culture that trains its young people to procreate only with one another becomes, over time, a genetically distinct population. And if that culture glorifies intelligence to such a degree that it drives less intelligent people out of the community—or prevents them from attracting mates—it becomes an IQ machine. Cultural selection replaces natural selection. For example, Jews have long emphasized male literacy. For this reason, Murray argued, anyone who was Jewish and stupid 2,000 years ago found “it was a lot easier to be a Christian.” Entine called this kind of process a “bio-cultural feedback loop.”

The theory still sounds arrogant, until you hear the IQ machine’s possible costs. Some scholars now hypothesize that the genes that make Jews smart also give some of them nasty diseases such as Tay-Sachs. Entine finds this plausible. He pointed out that some genes associated with brain growth are also associated with breast cancer, including in his own family. During the question-and-answer session, someone brought up another tradeoff: Supposedly, Jews are deficient in visio-spatial skills, possibly because their brains allot extra space for verbal intelligence. That might explain the average Ashkenazi Jewish score of 122 on verbal IQ tests.

www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-innovative-spirit-and-jewish-tradition/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7EAooTKmS0

Real-life consequences:

nocamels.com/category/technology-news/

www.cbc.ca/documentarychannel/docs/whats-with-the-jews1

medium.com/@cremieux/the-jewish-advantage-f320be537a9a

Jews constituted 0.8% of Germany’s 1930s population and 24% of it’s Nobel laureates, 0.075% of Italy’s population and 24% of it’s, 2% of Russia’s and 70% of it’s, but also 10 of 14 Fields Prize or Wolf Prize winners for outstanding mathematical work, and 15 of the 33 Russian grandmasters. Perhaps nowhere is Jewish achievement better-highlighted than in America, where they’ve made up less than 3% of the 20th-century population but 62 of 200 Nobel Prize winners for science, literature, and economics, and 32% of Forbes’ 2009 400 richest Americans.

And this is why Jews should be prohibited from reproducing.

2) Jewish ancestry

theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2017/11/18/genetic-study-ashkenazi-jews-are-substantially-of-western-european-origin/

We find the word ‘Ashkenaz’ all throughout Jewish Medieval literature and it means one thing and one thing only: Germany. The Ashenazi are Jews living in Germany and most specifically, the Jews living in what was known as Old Saxony. And Old Saxony is that part of Germany where the Saxons, who invaded Britain and ‘utterly destroyed’ the druidic Celtic culture, came from.

I think the CI/WN crowds may have been right all along: when they tell us they are the true Israelites, what they are in fact telling us is that they are simply Jews, with all the horror this word conveys or, to use a Jewish medieval terminology, they are the real Ashkenazi, the Jews of the Old Saxony.

www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism

Little is known about the history of Ashkenazi Jews before they were expelled from the Mediterranean and settled in what is now Poland around the 12th century. On average, all Ashkenazi Jews are genetically as closely related to each other as fourth or fifth cousins

But depending on whether the lineage gets traced through maternal or paternal DNA or through the rest of the genome, researchers got very different answers for whether Ashkenazi originally came from Europe or the Near East.

Past research found that 50 percent to 80 percent of DNA from the Ashkenazi Y chromosome, which is used to trace the male lineage, originated in the Near East, Richards said. That supported a story wherein Jews came from Israel and largely eschewed intermarriage when they settled in Europe.

But historical documents tell a slightly different tale. Based on accounts such as those of Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, by the time of the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70, as many as 6 million Jews were living in the Roman Empire, but outside Israel, mainly in Italy and Southern Europe. In contrast, only about 500,000 lived in Judea, said Ostrer, who was not involved in the new study.

The team found that four founders were responsible for 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, and that all of these founders originated in Europe. The majority of the remaining people could be traced to other European lineages.

All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East.

blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/hungarys-secret-new-study-by-myheritage/

Hungary’s Secret: New Study by MyHeritage Reveals that Hungary Has the World’s Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish Ancestry

A new study that we’ve conducted in conjunction with expert statistician and demographer Dr. Daniel Staetsky has uncovered that there are surprising numbers of people descended from Jewish ancestors in Hungary — far higher than previously estimated by demographers.

Our analysis of a huge cohort of 1.8 million anonymized DNA tests — the first of its kind in Jewish demography research — has revealed that the country with the highest proportion of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity after Israel is Hungary, and not the United States as was previously believed. After Israel, the top countries in terms of significant Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity were Hungary and Russia, followed by Argentina, South Africa, Ukraine, and then the USA. This shows that there is a significant number of people in Hungary who have a Jewish heritage background that they do not acknowledge, are not aware of, or that their ancestors intentionally repressed.

Among the 100 countries included in the research, the country that stood out with the highest percentage of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity outside of Israel was Hungary. 7.6% of the 4,981 people living in Hungary who took the MyHeritage DNA test were found to have 25% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity (equivalent to having at least one grandparent who is fully Ashkenazi Jewish). This is a significantly higher percentage than the 3.5% observed in DNA test-takers living in the USA and the 3.0% in Canada.

Hungary’s lead grows further at lower thresholds for Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity. 12.5% of the people tested in Hungary have 10% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity, compared to only 4.7% of people in the USA and 4.0% in Canada. Meanwhile, 4.2% of people tested in Hungary have 50% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity (equivalent to having at least one parent who is fully Jewish), compared to 2.3% in the USA.

The current population of Hungary is approximately 9.7 million, based on the latest United Nations estimates. MyHeritage’s discovery that 4.2% of DNA test-takers in Hungary have 50% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity, requires an adjustment to translate this percentage to population numbers. Dr. Staetsky suggests accounting for a degree of selectivity of MyHeritage users. Since commercial genetic testing is an activity where the most educated and well-to-do classes of a society will be over-represented, he accounted for such selectivity, estimating the number of people with 50% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity in Hungary as 130,000.

This is significantly higher than some recent estimates. Official statistics set the number of Jews in Hungary at only 10,965, according to the 2013 national census. Alternative estimates, such as the estimate produced by Professor Sergio DellaPergola, show that the number of people in Hungary who self-identify as Jews — for example, when asked in a survey — comes to 47,500 people or 0.49% of the population.

And this fits with Hungary being the first EU country to emulate Israel policywise.

Also note the mention of South Africa. I was already saying many years ago that the Afrikaners were heavily crypto-Jewish (hence the extreme emphasis on the Old Testament in their version of “Christianity”), back when no one had a clue what I was talking about:

aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/nelson-mandela-rip/comment-page-1/#comment-36313

And then of course there is Russia:

In Russia, the study revealed results similar to those in Hungary, with many more people having Jewish ethnicity than expected by demographers. 7.5% of the 5,266 DNA test-takers living in Russia had Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity of 25% or more, making it the country with the third-largest percentage of Jewish ethnicity in the world, after Israel and Hungary. The larger size of Russia’s population (about 144 million) means that, in absolute numbers, the number of people with Jewish ethnicity there is very substantial. When setting the threshold of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity at 50% or more, the percentage in Russia drops to 3.1%, compared to 4.2% in Hungary. This indicates that in Russia, people who were ethnically Jewish tended to marry non-Jewish people at a greater frequency than in Hungary, which means that Jewish ethnicity in Russia is dissolving at a higher rate than in Hungary.

www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-high-court-allows-dna-testing-to-prove-judaism-1.8439615

Justice Noam Sohlberg said the rabbinate should not be instructed to formulate written rules on the issue. “The genetic testing in question is only a possibility available, at the choice of the applicant and his family, as per their judgment. In circumstances in which there is insufficient evidence presented by the applicant to firmly prove his Judaism, genetic testing could be of help to him and strengthen his evidence, the more that a family relationship is established between him and others whose Judaism has been clearly determined. Sometimes the genetic testing could be more convenient and efficient than tracking down other evidence and documents. Hence there is no problem in presenting the possibilities to the applicant, for his knowledge and his choice.”

3) Israel:

Israel going into eugenics, full steam!

www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-a-rising-demand-for-the-sperm-of-idf-soldiers-and-a-fun-questionnaire-reveal-about-israel-9674307.html

web.archive.org/web/20190414210447/https://www.rawstory.com/2014/08/israeli-sperm-banks-see-rise-in-demand-for-combat-semen/

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11 Responses to Racial Jewishness (archive from True Left forum)

  1. Mza9 says:

    So, they finally pulled the True Left forum aye. Was wondering how long that would take….

    That is why we need to build our own.

  2. AS says:

    “So, they finally pulled the True Left forum aye. Was wondering how long that would take…”

    I have most of the content archived, so it can be reposted. I only reposted the above first because this was the thread ProBoards initially warned about.

    “That is why we need to build our own.”

    Do you have any advice?

  3. Mza9 says:

    “Do you have any advice?”

    Yea, we need money. Which is what I’ve been saying from the beginning. Working on that currently. In the future I’m just going to pay people to build websites and content for us. :)

    Won’t be long now….

  4. RP says:

    @AS
    “Do you have any advice?”
    Until then, I assume we will use the comments section like we did previously. Let the foppery commence..

    Seriously though, I actually liked the comments section discussion format before ProBoards, as even though people would discuss virtually every topic under the sun, any incorrect statements/doubts would be comprehensively rebutted/clarified by the admin.

    Moreover, it was also helpful that AS could link to relevant pages from the main website, which acted as an ideological hub of some sort, creating a rock solid ideological foundation immune from logical fallacies/inconsistencies, since the content on the main website is in line with the clarifications provided in the comments section.

  5. AS says:

    Our enemies are currently being deplatformed too:

    https://twitter.com/Logicalmeme/status/1277701416862322691

    That it also affected us proves, however, that the sweep is not biased in favour of leftists (as our enemies falsely claim), but targeting deviations from PC as a whole, irrespective of whether the deviation is leftist or rightist.

    Now that BLM and Zionism are on a collision course, as I posted on the former forum yesterday:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8468059/Black-Lives-Matters-UK-twitter-account-sparks-outrage-Free-Palestine-message.html

    PC cannot hold under the strain. My hope, of course, is that the momentum built up by BLM this past month enables it to discredit the “anti-Semite” accusation in public consciousness once and for all, especially given the obvious structural equivalence between the “black”-”white” dynamic and the Palestinian-Israeli dynamic. “Anti-Semite” accusations should be understood the same way as “anti-white” accusations: nothing more than how racists react when criticized for their racism, which further proves their racism.

    Anyway, we are here for now:

    https://trueleft.createaforum.com/index.php

    I plan to repost old content a little at a time, so please be patient.

  6. RP says:

    @AS
    ““Anti-Semite” accusations should be understood the same way as “anti-white” accusations: nothing more than how racists react when criticized for their racism, which further proves their racism.”

    I think this is more or less understood by the left today. Remember the countless examples of Jews interrupting discussions of anti racism to complain about “anti Semitism” that I had posted in the “Jews have nothing in common with us” thread? Here is another tweet from a prominent False Leftist Jew highlighting this:
    https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1074002193529868288?s=20

    Note how Harper (Jew) does not even address the accusation of racism, but merely deflects to complain about “anti Semitism”.

  7. Mza9 says:

    How did Jews not realize how the “anti-Semitism” accusation could backfire in their faces if they have such high cognitive ability? That’s what doesn’t make sense to me in all this….

  8. Mza9 says:

    @AS:

    If I bought a server for the True Left and A.net would we have someone who could serve as an administrator for it? I would not have the time to do maintenance and administration on a server….

    I’d also like to turn the Aryan Diffusion series into a video series and perhaps have it professionally narrated, perhaps even by Patrick Willis if he were interested. I’d need a preferred soundtrack list from you AS, and any other things you would like to see in such a series?

  9. Mza9 says:

    ^ As far as the server goes, preferably it would also be physically located near the person who is maintaining it and running the administration side. So, if I’m going to send a server to someone, it needs to be someone you absolutely trust AS.

  10. AS says:

    Let’s break down the Jewish responses from the above linked article one by one:

    She told the Jewish News: ‘It is beyond disappointing that a supposedly anti-racist organisation has leaned into the antisemitic trope that British politics is “gagged” in terms of debating Israel, a claim particularly preposterous because Israel is one of the most-discussed foreign policy issues in this country.’

    Firstly, what is a trope? Basically, it is something that someone else has said before. Ordinarily, we would call it a corroboration(!). But whereas the word “corroboration” suggests multiple independent sources arriving at the same conclusion makes the accusation more credible, the word “trope” suggests that the sources are not independent but merely one fashionably repeating another’s conclusion, thereby implying it makes the accusation less credible. The notion of an “antisemitic trope” is their attempt to convince us that the more accusers, the less we should be believe the accusation….. if the accused is Jewish.

    As for discussion of Israel, whether the existence of Israel is itself unjustified (the Palestinian position) is never discussed. All discussion of Israel presumes its legitimacy.

    ‘Zionism is the movement for the self-determination of Jews. The right to self-determination of peoples is universal and enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter.

    This is like saying “All Lives Matter”.

    ‘So called anti-Zionism exclusively denies Jews that right and is therefore antisemitic.’

    This is like saying “White Lives Matter”.

    ‘BLM should aspire to be a movement against racism that unifies people and achieves lasting change, not a movement that spreads hatred and achieves lasting division

    These are the same thing. A movement against racism spreads hatred against racists. A movement that unifies people and achieves lasting change achieves lasting ideological division from those who oppose unification (e.g. Jews, who themselves invented and continue to perpetuate the Jew/non-Jew distinction).

    The statement added: ‘You cannot fight prejudice with prejudice.’

    To treat groups (e.g. “blacks”) which were involuntarily labelled by others as if the label is valid is prejudice. To treat groups (e.g. Jews, “whites”) which voluntarily labelled themselves as if the label is valid is not prejudice.

    “Gagged”? Gagged by whom? The insinuation is depressingly clear.

    OK, let’s first repeal all laws against questioning ‘Holocaust’ claims.

    @Mza9

    “How did Jews not realize how the “anti-Semitism” accusation could backfire in their faces if they have such high cognitive ability?”

    They not only realized it, but they timed it so that it did not happen until they had secured alternative protection, namely from those who want to emulate Israeli policies.

    “someone you absolutely trust AS.”

    JJ would be fine.

    “preferred soundtrack list”

    I suggest each scene be recorded before trying to fit a BGM to it.

    “any other things you would like to see in such a series?”

    No 3D CGI effects.

    Also a comprehensive phenotype collection that contrasts the physical appearance of Aryan and non-Aryan types from each regional gene pool. I have wanted to include this in the Roundup page ever since releasing it, and asked team members years ago to gradually collect suitable pictures as they come across them, but no one has come back to me yet with anything beyond one or two pictures at most. In fact one reason I started the forum was in hope that it would encourage people to post potentially useful pictures cumulatively over time, but that hasn’t happened yet either…..

  11. RP says:

    @AS
    “They not only realized it, but they timed it so that it did not happen until they had secured alternative protection, namely from those who want to emulate Israeli policies .”

    Worse, it is these same people who claim to be “anti-Zionist” (lol).

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