The Ko Rule

Over the last few months, there have been plenty of new, promising projects started by Aryanists, only to be later abandoned (and sometimes restarted and abandoned again). The general state of productivity reminds me of a dying body, with the exception of rare gleams of vitality which, unfortunately, are quickly lost too. The far-right, in the meanwhile, continues to gain ground like wildfire, and in our current state I doubt very much we would even be able to stand in their way, never mind be a threat capable of smothering them. (And let’s not forget about Israel, Jews, and their Zionist supporters.) How will we be able to create a new world if we can hardly even keep ourselves alive online?

This general drop in productivity has been accompanied by wasting time and energy into idle and useless conversation (the history of the blog over the last few months is perhaps the best example). I know most of us are busy with mundane affairs and I do not expect of anybody to overlook them. On the other hand, it is unlikely that anybody here does not have at least one hour per day (or every two days, or even three days, which would be far better than what we have right now) that they could focus to advancing the Aryanist movement by carrying out their respective projects, or at least planning or learning something new which could be of benefit. If you have time to waste on meaningless posts, you have time to contribute positively.

Aryanism is not an academic discussion club. We’ll have plenty of time and resources for that once we gain power. Aryanism is not a club to make friends. I am glad if you do, by the way, but we have more important goals which should be taken care of first. Aryanism is not a place to have fun. I would be quite appalled if any so-called “Aryanist” is enjoying our situation. And Aryanism is certainly not a place to show off how great you are. If you’re interested in satisfying your vanity, please contact your local identitarian horde and begone!

What Aryanism is – what we are – is a political movement. Any movement which wishes to sustain itself and thrive requires the participation and dedication of its members. More specifically, Aryanism is a political movement for revolutionaries. Please think and act as such.

If Aryanism is to gain any ground, I have two demands which anybody who considers oneself an Aryanist must follow. The first demand concerns each of your Aryanism-related projects: devote your time, energy, and hearts to them in a serious fashion.

If you are currently involved in a project, do your best to give at least one full hour of your day to advancing your project and to communicating with your team members.

If you are not currently involved in a project, please send me a contact form or discuss here on the blog how you can get involved. Even strategic suggestions alone are welcome. On the other hand, if you don’t have any intention of sticking through with a project after telling me you will contribute to it, don’t bother sending a contact form. I really do have better things to do than to devote my limited time to you when you don’t intend to devote your own time to the project.

If you want to get involved in a project but cannot at the moment for whatever reason, that’s understandable, but don’t think that you can be idle in the meanwhile. Rather you should focus your free time in becoming an expert in whatever project it is you want to contribute to later, as well as trying to create novel ways to make it work.

If you are not working and have no intention of working at all, you are not an Aryanist, and you shouldn’t be here.

My second demand concerns your blog comments: if you have nothing meaningful to say, don’t say it. This should extend into our conversations with each other outside of the blog (and with non-Aryanists too). A lot of the time and energy we could use in productive endeavors are wasted in making noise in useless debates. Don’t be afraid of being wrong; we are here to correct each other’s mistakes. Don’t be afraid to speak your heart; the world needs more noble hearts to express themselves unashamed and uninhibited. But be afraid that your comments are letting down your comrades. Be afraid that your comments are letting our enemies win, even if just small victories. Therefore think twice before you post a comment. Before you submit a comment, read it through one more time, and if you feel it doesn’t contribute anything to the discussion or doesn’t add anything new to it, either edit your comment or restart it. Or discard it altogether. If a comment is inappropriate, I will notify you first – with an explanation, if necessary – but I hope this will no longer be an issue.

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77 Responses to The Ko Rule

  1. Osaka Ali says:

    Provocative.

    @Hashtali

    I beg an audience with you.

  2. What is the Aryanist’s thought or view on Stoicism?

  3. Hashtali says:

    @Osaka Ali

    Sure thing. You know where to find me. (I have some good news to share with you, by the way.)
    Also, in regards to the last email you sent me, good work! I don’t have much to add, other than that adding even more evidence will make a stronger case.

  4. Osaka Ali says:

    @Hashtali

    I have news for you as well (I think it is the good kind).

    In regards to what you have written, I have noticed a rhythm of dialogue that follows a kind of pattern in the blog comments. I may or may not be right about this, but I feel two distinct kinds of energy depending on whether the conversation topic is focused on ‘possibilities’ for developing a future Aryanist world versus addressing genuine as well as disingenuous challenges to Aryanist philosophy. Frankly, I think that we lose a lot of positive momentum in defending our positions that could be better devoted to advancing an optimistic ideal in a more detailed and vivid way. In other words, the craftsman, artisan and architect are neglected in favor of the watchman and legionnaire.

    Perhaps the remedy is to develop a more efficient way to dispatch the dishonest attacks and to protect, cultivate and nurture the emerging shoots and buds of creativity to maturity.

    As for my own failings, I think that they concern three things: fear, faithlessness and a lack of trust. To anyone reading this, I humbly ask you to not tolerate my timidity, to buoy and encourage my faith and to forgive me if I did not extend an open hand to you due to my own personal lack of confidence.

    Lastly, about books and intellectual pursuits, I am new at all of this and so have been reading a few books to enhance my understanding. Naturally, I have questions. How else to better understand the texts than to discuss them with others here or in other forums?

  5. RY says:

    @Fred Washington

    THIS IS NOT THE “OFFICIAL” VIEW OF “ARYANISM” REGARDING “STOICISM”; IT IS JUST MY OPINION:

    “STOICISM” IS A MUNDANE WORLDVIEW; ID EST: IT IS THE ARCHETYPAL DOCTRINE/PHILOSOPHY OF THE MEDIOCRE, THE MATERIALIST, AND THE IMPOTENTLY RESIGNED; OF PERSONS “IN TIME”. ITS MODE OF ACTION IS CONTINGENT, STRIVING TOWARD ULTIMATE MATERIAL CONTROL VIA THE IMPLEMENTATION OF CONTINGENT ORDER, SOCIOCULTURALLY, SOCIOECONOMICALLY, AND SOCIOPOLITICALLY.

    ITS FIRST MANIFESTATION AS SUCH, WAS IN CHINA, WITH KUNG TSE, IN THE SIXTH CENTURY B C E , CONTINUING IN THE HELLENIC WORLD WITH ZENO OF CITIUM, CULMINATING WITH MARCUS AURELIUS IN ROME, AND REMAINING SINCE THEN IN MULTIPLE FORMS UNTIL THE PRESENT.

  6. Hashtali says:

    @Fred Washington

    RY’s opinion is essentially in line with the overall Aryanist position. The highest virtue of Stoicism is “Apatheia” – apathy. Anybody who is apathetic in the face of slavery will not fight it and is not noble (and so not an Aryan). Therefore Stoicism is counter to Aryanism.

    @Osaka Ali

    “Frankly, I think that we lose a lot of positive momentum in defending our positions that could be better devoted to advancing an optimistic ideal in a more detailed and vivid way. In other words, the craftsman, artisan and architect are neglected in favor of the watchman and legionnaire.”

    This is actually one of the problems that I am attempting to address. I am hoping that by everybody working more diligently on a regular basis (and not only investing energy when another barbarian comes along to challenge us) will necessarily lead to people taking initiative to conquer new territory. Our current position is not only defensive, but Pyrrhically so. It is like an enemy base sending one soldier to our side to fight us, and us sending every single person out to meet him and using all our artillery to fire at him, and then retreating to our base.

    “Perhaps the remedy is to develop a more efficient way to dispatch the dishonest attacks and to protect, cultivate and nurture the emerging shoots and buds of creativity to maturity.”

    I think we overall need to pay more attention to the latter. That should also give us more people who will be ready to counterattack.

    “Lastly, about books and intellectual pursuits, I am new at all of this and so have been reading a few books to enhance my understanding. Naturally, I have questions. How else to better understand the texts than to discuss them with others here or in other forums?”

    My own concern has less to do with discussion in itself as with discussion without any resulting practical action.

  7. Osaka Ali says:

    @Hastali

    “My own concern has less to do with discussion in itself as with discussion without any resulting practical action.”

    I acknowledge this concern. Idle chatter is the makings of disaster and self-initiated defeat.

    I’d like to offer this point of view and recommendation in response:

    While we should not engage in pointless and self-gratifying pursuits, I can guarantee you that our enemies are vigorously engaged in study, at times rigorous, of texts as well as memorization, critique and indoctrination of the same. This includes (especially) armed organizations. These take the form of executive, professional and vocational reading programs, with assigned volumes and documentation of books read with citations given for accomplishment.

    To my knowledge, however, these ‘circles’ do not ask the question, “how are you applying this” in a similarly rigorous way, except at only the highest levels of organization. Of course it is a blessing that they do not do so for the sake of Aryanists.

    Additionally, and more importantly I think, is that they do not have a synchronous and complementary ‘de-programming’ regime where false doctrines, faulty logic and degenerate grammar (including vocabulary) are excised from the personality-forming habits of their participants. I recognize that I myself am an example of zionist indoctrination and would benefit from such a mental ‘de-lousing’ along with the study that I am able to undertake.

    Witness how the image of excising of texts is a ‘shibboleth’ (see, it is like a reflex) of ‘evil’:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_book_burnings#/media/File:1933-may-10-berlin-book-burning.JPG

    How many of us have been ‘trained’ to recoil at the idea of burning books in a form that would have impressed Pavlov? In fact, I now consider the process of burning books to be of tremendous benefit to my mental and spiritual health, despite the conditioning that remains in traces in me. It would avail me to ‘burn’ books even more, at least psychically, if I could overcome the stigma:

    http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/images-4/419_18_2.jpg

    Therefore, I propose a reading indoctrination program that must include (conclude with) the statement(s), “this is how I applied, am applying, will exercise these ideas” as well as a, well, holocaust of terms, grammar, vocabulary and whole texts that are mental and spiritual shackles.

  8. LuciferOverZion says:

    Enemies’ books should not be burned, but used as bad examples.

  9. Osaka Ali says:

    @LuciferOverZion

    I am not so sure. Here’s why:

    Law enforcement agents assigned duties as counterfeiting specialists receive extensive training to prepare them for careers devoted to detecting and arresting the producers and distributors of currency forgeries.

    The method of training how to detect ‘false’ bills is NOT to display and study examples of counterfeit bills, though. This was a surprise to me. The method of how to detect fakes begins with intense and detailed study of the genuine bills, down to the finest details.

    After this, such agents sensitivity to copies comes naturally.

    Preserving examples of bad ideology may be a waste of effort. Or at least devoting too much time and space to such is a waste.

    Developing and fortifying a robust and resonant vision of genuine and vital leftism, down to the finest details, just might be a much better investment of blut und boden than archiving a menagerie of refuse.

  10. Andalucian Warrior says:

    @Osaka Ali

    That’s indeed an excellent point. A person who has not lost touch with their nobility does not have to be taught that Judaism is disgusting. They know this by comparing it to their own morality (the good bills). However, preserving such refuse may be useful simply to show people what the enemy wrote. If we burned all the copies of the Tanakh and other Jewish literature then, after a while, Jews could claim they were not evil and a lot of people would believe them. But if we preserved this literature, we would always be able to show people what they had produced and hence how they were evil.

  11. Osaka Ali says:

    @Andalucian Warrior

    ‘… after a while, Jews could …’

    Which should come first: chicken or egg?

    Is not Aryanist racial theory such that terminating the bloodline (jewish blood) eliminates its derivatives (criminal intellectual devices – i.e. jewish literature, culture, ‘philosophy’, etc.)?

  12. Lucius Rhine says:

    Thank you for this post. I have looked high and low, wide and narrow, far and near for people to actually start writing for the American movement. With the exception of Addekempe – of which he is concerned with finishing primary education – I have found all but do-nothings. People can sit around on Facebook messenger, the largest Jew owned social media site, talking about the Jew all day and day dreaming about what they do. It is nothing but absolute masturbation of the ego. This is what caused JAM to finally quit any dream of fighting the Jew because he feels as if the Jew has won – a view I disagree with, but seeing as he has spent a little under 10 years devoting his life to the fight against the Jew, he feels defeated. Why? Because nobody, with the minor exception of me, did anything for him.

    So, if you want to contribute to the monarchist party, feel free to email me. It is rather lonely over here, and I need contributors! But if you come to the party expecting to kick back, then also expect to be exposed on the party website as a do-nothing! We need doers! Not self-involved masturbators that do absolutely diddly squat!

  13. Andalucian Warrior says:

    I mean until Jews have been terminated. We would still keep the Tanakh and Jewish literature to show people what Gentiles followed, even if they did not invent it themselves. It will take ages to eliminate their bloodlines.

  14. Osaka Ali says:

    @Andalucian Warrior

    “It will take ages to eliminate their bloodlines.”

    Positive thinking, now.

  15. Andalucian Warrior says:

    Well it will. This is another problem with the website. We’re starting to completely disregard strategy. Do you think that an Aryanist regime can just declare that 90% of the population can’t breed without there being a rebellion and them being overthrown? It will take generations to get rid of Gentiles. Each generation will be only an incremental improvement on the last as the something like the worst 5% of the previous generation is prohibited from breeding.

    On a similar note, we praise people who do not reproduce, and it is indeed more noble to not reproduce, but we will still have to do so (and do so in as large numbers as possible) for strategic reasons.

  16. JM says:

    @Lucius Rhine

    I would like to help to contribute to the monarchist party. I am a “United Statesian” as the Aryanism site would say and I might be able to start a party chapter at my university. Is there a place where I can find your contact info?

  17. Andalucian Warrior says:

    Since when did we call people ‘United Statesians’?

  18. Osaka Ali says:

    @Andalucian Warrior

    You bring up interesting points; possibly valid ones. What does the ‘weltfremd’ in you imagine the solutions to the problems with this site and the establishment of a reproduction program might be?

  19. RY says:

    THE TERM IS “UNITEDSTATIAN”, NOT “UNITEDSTASIAN”.

  20. Addekempe says:

    @LR

    “With the exception of Addekempe – of which he is concerned with finishing primary education”

    Sorry for that, I’m required to do that school stuff, I can’t get out of it until 2018.

    @AW

    “we will still have to do so (and do so in as large numbers as possible) for strategic reasons.”

    You ‘have’ to? What if you are like me who is not interested in reproducing?

  21. Lucius Rhine says:

    @JM, my email is linked on my name. Email me and we can get started.

  22. John Johnson says:

    @Osaka Ali
    “The method of training how to detect ‘false’ bills is NOT to display and study examples of counterfeit bills, though. This was a surprise to me. The method of how to detect fakes begins with intense and detailed study of the genuine bills, down to the finest details.

    After this, such agents sensitivity to copies comes naturally.”

    Interesting, but we must remember that our enemies’ ideologies are not merely “bad copies” of our ideology. Our enemies have an irreconcilable and OPPOSING worldview from our own.

    Counterpropaganda is essential, if not to win small rhetorical ‘victories’ over our enemies, at least to make neutral bystanders aware of our positions and demonstrate to them that we offer a serious ideological alternative to non-Aryanist views. As such, counterpropaganda is an offensive weapon (i.e. we are not defending ourselves from enemy attacks, but actively attacking their views). In addition to counterpropaganda, there is ‘regular’ propaganda which advocates our views without necessarily attacking enemy views (which of course is also an offensive tactic).

    While a counterpropagandist would be expected to study all the flaws in the our enemies’ ideologies (studying counterfeit bills in your example) and craft his arguments accordingly, a ‘regular’ propagandist would be expected to study our own ideology “down to the finest details” (which would lead to the additional benefit of defeating the False Left’s “counterfeit” claims of being Leftists).

    —-

    Also, we don’t want to abandon the term “American”, but rather reclaim it from rightist idiots.

    We want to encourage people to place a greater value on their local community, so a bottom-up approach would be better than constructing a new blanket term, such as “Unitedstatian”, which sounds much too artificial and mechanical to elicit any emotion. For example, people could identify with their states (e.g. Californian, Texan), their region (e.g. Midwesterner, East Coast), a particular geographic feature (e.g. Appalachian, The Valley [California]), a city (e.g. Chicagoan, New Yorker), or a new term based on a river basin (e.g. the Mississippi River is unique because it has cultural significance in both the ‘South’ and ‘North’).

  23. RY says:

    @John Johnson

    >Also, we don’t want to abandon the term “American”, but rather reclaim it from rightist idiots.

    1. NOONE IS CLAIMING THAT “UNITEDSTATIAN” OUGHT TO REPLACE THE TERM “AMERICAN”; IT IS JUST BEING RECOGNIZED THAT THE LATTER TERM APPLIED TO CITIZENS OF UNITEDSTATES IS MISNOMINAL; THEY ARE TWO MUTUALLY DIFFERENT AND DISTINCT TERMS, NOT MUTUAL SYNONYMS.

    2. THE TERM “UNITEDSTATIAN” REFERS TO A QUALITY OF LESSER MAGNITUDE THAN “AMERICAN”; THE FORMER REFERS TO A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTRY CALLED “UNITEDSTATES”, THE LATTER REFERS TO AN INHABITANT OF THE CONTINENT CALLED “AMERICA”.

    >We want to encourage people to place a greater value on their local community, so a bottom-up approach would be better than constructing a new blanket term, such as “Unitedstatian”, which sounds much too artificial and mechanical to elicit any emotion.

    1. NOONE IS DENYING THE IMPORTANCE OF LOWSCALE/LOCAL/SUBREGIONAL DEMONYMIC IDENTIFICATION; THE PURPOSE FOR THE TERM “UNITEDSTATIAN” IS TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE NAME FOR THE QUALITY OF BEING A CITIZEN OF UNITEDSTATES; THE COUNTRY EXISTS; YOU CANNOT JUST PRETEND THAT IT DOES NOT, WHILE DEGENERATING INTO A KIND OF INCOHESIVE REGIONALISM; THERE ARE DEMONYMICAL LEVELS, AND THE LEVEL OF SUBREGIONAL/GEOGRAPHIC/STATE IDENTIFICATION IS ONE OF THE LOWER AND MORE BASIC LEVELS.

    2. THE PURPOSE FOR THE TERM “UNITEDSTATIAN” IS NOT TO ELICIT “EMOTION”, NOR ROMANTIC AND IDEALISTIC SENTIMENTS, BUT RATHER, AS MENTIONED, TO PROVIDE ACCURACY OF DEFINITION; ROMANTIC AND IDEALISTIC SENTIMENTS —AT A NATIONAL LEVEL— ARE ELICITED FROM THE FOLK, FROM THE RACE, AND FROM SOCIOCULTURE, NOT FROM THE STATE, NOR FROM ANY OTHER SOCIOPOLITICAL ORGANISM; WHAT IS ELICITED FROM THE LATTER IS NOT ROMANTIC AND IDEALISTIC SENTIMENTS, BUT TRIBALISTIC BASAL EMOTIONS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY KNOWN AS “PATRIOTISM”, AND IS QUALITATIVELY OBVERSE TO NATIONALISM.

  24. LuciferOverZion says:

    For me, covert projects are more effective.

  25. RY says:

    @LuciferOverZion

    COVERTNESS, AND OVERTNESS, ARE BOTH NECESSARY, FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, ALTHOUGH ULTIMATELY THEY FUNCTION CONCURRENTLY, AND MUST BE IMPLEMENTED CONJUNCTLY.

  26. Osaka Ali says:

    @John Johnson

    “Interesting, but we must remember that our enemies’ ideologies are not merely “bad copies” of our ideology. Our enemies have an irreconcilable and OPPOSING worldview from our own.”

    Maybe so, but I would say that our enemies (if I may say ‘our’) ideologies suffer most severely from being poor facsimiles of not our ideology, but from being based on faulty conceptions of reality. Our weltanschuung can only be judged worthy of posterity or eternity based on it’s fidelity to, or deviation from, truth. And thus so, both our and our enemies’ ideologies.

    “… at least to make neutral bystanders aware of our positions and demonstrate to them that we offer a serious ideological alternative …”

    Neutral bystanders that we seek to affect or touch should be moved similarly by truth and our movement’s proximity (or lack of) to it. Any community that isn’t shouldn’t be the concern of our propaganda, wouldn’t you say?

    If this hasn’t been done already, a grand strategy should be drafted for Aryanism. Then, and only then, we will know whether or not victory is closer or father away.

  27. Andalucian Warrior says:

    >You bring up interesting points; possibly valid ones. What does the ‘weltfremd’ in you imagine the solutions to the problems with this site and the establishment of a reproduction program might be?

    As I say, we have to encourage as many higher quality births as possible. Even though National Socialist Germany was clearly an Agrarian regime that wanted a low population, they encouraged large families and awarded medals to mothers with many children, because they needed a large population in the short-term to fight the enemy.

    >You ‘have’ to? What if you are like me who is not interested in reproducing?

    No-one will be forced to reproduce if they don’t want to.

    >THE TERM IS “UNITEDSTATIAN”, NOT “UNITEDSTASIAN”.

    Just call people from the USA Americans and people from the American continent Atlanteans. It sounds better. Problem solved.

  28. Osaka Ali says:

    The ‘United States’ is the world’s second most successful freemasonic project (after zio-rama, of course). Not sure why any Aryanist would propose enshrining it as an identity. Can someone explain this to me?

  29. LuciferOverZion says:

    @ Andalucian Warrior

    I’ve been thinking about the same thing: surely if we want to defeat our enemies we need a lot of manpower (and increase Aryan birth-rate with something similar to Lebensborn at the same time). After achieving the final victory we have to limit fertility asap though.

    @ Osaka Ali

    What Aryanism wants to achieve is an American continent free from Western Civilization and colonization once and for all.

  30. Osaka Ali says:

    @LuciferOverZion

    “… American continent free from Western Civilization and colonization …”

    Well, if that’s the aim, then the term ‘united states’ ain’t it. This was originally conceived in ink on the declaration of independence; the same document that essentially mandated the slaughter of the ‘merciless indian savages’.

  31. Hashtali says:

    @Osaka Ali

    “Therefore, I propose a reading indoctrination program that must include (conclude with) the statement(s), “this is how I applied, am applying, will exercise these ideas” as well as a, well, holocaust of terms, grammar, vocabulary and whole texts that are mental and spiritual shackles.”

    For the moment I do not think this is entirely necessary. There are two reasons. One, while I demand effort from everybody, I realize there are time constraints. Until the general pace of work speeds up (accompanied by increase in quality) exponentially, asking members to read specific material within a set period of time and then to report on them will impede our progress even more. If the current situation changes for the better, we can reevaluate this reason.
    Two, unlike the post-PC right, we do not have a host of Aryanist literature through which we can be certain that our views are expressed appropriately. At the moment, the bulk of Aryanist literature is found on the main site, as well as on other sites like Sword of Elysium and The True Left (by the way, there’s two new articles out, so everybody go check them out: https://trueleftblog.wordpress.com/). I recommend an intense study of this literature (and especially the one on the main site), as our positions on issues not explicitly addressed can be deduced from it. It can also work to unbind us from mental, emotional, and spiritual slavery – that is what Aryanism is about, after all. (By the way, we also have a bunch of important material for reading here: http://aryanism.net/archive/books/)

    I agree with LoZ and Andalucian Warrior on the issue of book burning. I have no problem with burning massive amounts of books, but the literature itself should be kept accessible so we can know our enemies. If we can have local, state-owned libraries for non-Aryan literature (especially that of the most degenerate kind), or even electronic libraries, that would be a more efficient way to ensure their (temporary) survival than to have them constantly created anew for sale in regular book stores.

    “The ‘United States’ is the world’s second most successful freemasonic project (after zio-rama, of course). Not sure why any Aryanist would propose enshrining it as an identity. Can someone explain this to me?”
    “Well, if that’s the aim, then the term ‘united states’ ain’t it. This was originally conceived in ink on the declaration of independence; the same document that essentially mandated the slaughter of the ‘merciless indian savages’.”

    Agreed. RY’s position is not the movement’s position in this case. There is no reason why an ideal – which we call American – cannot be imbued into a state. In fact, it should be the duty of the state to uphold an ideal and to make sure that conditions necessary to attain it and express it are met. Any state not fighting for an ideal shouldn’t exist.

    @Andalucian Warrior

    “I mean until Jews have been terminated. We would still keep the Tanakh and Jewish literature to show people what Gentiles followed, even if they did not invent it themselves. It will take ages to eliminate their bloodlines.”

    I don’t think Jews should be as much of a problem as Gentiles. They are a much smaller group in the world, and could easily be part of that 5% you mentioned. Of course, there are Gentiles who also follow that literature, so it’s important to keep the literature around.

    “Well it will. This is another problem with the website. We’re starting to completely disregard strategy.”

    Not really. The position described in the Application subsection has never been changed: http://aryanism.net/politics/population-and-demographics/ Therefore I agree with your position that Aryans need to reproduce. At the same time, we need to find a way to prevent as many non-Aryans from reproducing, since the point is not to attempt to outdo them in competition (we’re asking to fail if we do that).

    “Just call people from the USA Americans and people from the American continent Atlanteans. It sounds better. Problem solved.”

    Excellent idea.

    @Lucius Rhine
    “my email is linked on my name.”

    There’s no way for other blog users to access your email (though admins can), but I’ve sent it along. By the way, there’s another contact who would like to talk to you (he’s already sent you an email). Hopefully things really pick up now!

  32. Andalucian Warrior says:

    From the linked page: ‘For example, the state could set an initial maximum limit of total births for each year. But then the state could add a rule that, for each one birth by the pre-designated Aryan subset within the population, it will lower the limit for the following year by two births. This would mean that each Aryan birth produces a net effect of preventing one child from being born. Hence the more enthusiastic we are about depopulation, the more we would reproduce.’

    I’m not sure about this. AS may be forgetting just how tribalist most people are here. Where he would see it as reproducing to prevent births, a non-Aryan would see it as reproducing and simultaneously preventing births in other families (i.e. maximising their own bloodline and minimising competing bloodlines), and hence simply as killing two birds with one stone.

    ‘Two, unlike the post-PC right, we do not have a host of Aryanist literature through which we can be certain that our views are expressed appropriately.’

    There is loads of literature that has Aryanist tendencies. The problem is that there is hardly anyone who agrees with us on every issue. For example, Rousseau believed in ethical childcare, Agrarianism, autarchy and was a proto-Fascist, but liked Jews, so we can’t use him.

  33. AS says:

    @AW

    “a non-Aryan would see it as reproducing and simultaneously preventing births in other families”

    Please note:

    the state could add a rule that, for each one birth by the pre-designated Aryan subset within the population, it will lower the limit for the following year by two births. This would mean that each Aryan birth produces a net effect of preventing one child from being born.

  34. Andalucian Warrior says:

    Well how do we find this designated Aryan subset, considering that non-Aryans will be actively trying to swindle their way in in order to maximise their reproductive success?

  35. AS says:

    We select for the Aryan subset while the candidates are still in early childhood, before they themselves are even aware of the system (and hence cannot game it). This is one practical reason (in addition to the much more important ethical reasons) for children being raised by the state. Only children raised by the state from birth will be eligible for the selection process, precluding the possibility of parents training children from an early age to feign nobility.

  36. Andalucian Warrior says:

    Fair enough. That’s a good idea. But I have seen Aryanists in the past suggest that children should not have to go to school if they do not want to. This is another example of strategy being disregarded in favour of idealism, since although I too would like them to not have to attend things they do not want to, if they do not attend school (or a state child-raising centre or some other institution) we will not be able to observe them and determine whether they are Aryan. Of course, we can at least allow them to select which of these centres/ which school they want to attend and allow them to move between them whenever they want (and actually this will make it easier to see which are Aryan, since some schools may be more suited to Aryans and others less so).

    Childcare institutions are also a good idea because it allows us to create an environment where children can have more freedom. For example, I have seen some people ask how we would stop very young children from being run over by cars if we do not restrain them. If they are in an environment where there are no cars this problem would not exist. (I was criticised for suggesting this once, which again is disregarding reality.)

    Also, since you are stating that we would determine whether people are Aryan when they are children, this implies some children are non-Aryan. I think this needs to be stated explicitly to avoid confusion, since at the moment the site appears to be leaning towards the opinion that Aryan status is only lost after the onset of puberty.

  37. Alex Alexander says:

    @AW

    I think that the education system should be changed to where it is in favor of each child, If we did that then the child would be less likely to leave, also we can observe patterns in the child’s choice in their education.

    “Child-rearing institutions are also a good idea”

    Did you mean ‘child-care institutions’?

    -

    The former name annoyed me (not important).

  38. Andalucian Warrior says:

    >I think that the education system should be changed to where it is in favor of each child, If we did that then the child would be less likely to leave, also we can observe patterns in the child’s choice in their education.

    This will happen automatically. Basically, the free market will fix it lol

    >Did you mean ‘child-care institutions’?

    I think you already know I did, since I corrected myself in a different post then made the same mistake again. Very interesting that you would chose to point this out. I’ll make a mental note of this.

  39. AS says:

    @AW

    “But I have seen Aryanists in the past suggest that children should not have to go to school if they do not want to. This is another example of strategy being disregarded in favour of idealism, since although I too would like them to not have to attend things they do not want to, if they do not attend school (or a state child-raising centre or some other institution) we will not be able to observe them and determine whether they are Aryan.”

    All classes and other activities should be voluntary is what I assume was meant (though I don’t think I was the one who said it). The choices they make in absence of coercion would be part of our observation, in fact, whereas coercion would distort the observation. And just because they don’t attend classes they don’t want to doesn’t mean we can no longer observe them; even if they attend no classes etc. at all, they would still live inside the childcare centre, so we still see how they choose to dispose of their time etc..

    “Also, since you are stating that we would determine whether people are Aryan when they are children, this implies some children are non-Aryan. I think this needs to be stated explicitly to avoid confusion,”

    Non-Aryan children rebel by wanting to grow up as quickly as possible and be perceived as an adult by other adults … In absolute contrast, Aryan children rebel by swearing to never join the adult world and never become like adults

    http://aryanism.net/philosophy/what-is-nobility/original-nobility/

    “since at the moment the site appears to be leaning towards the opinion that Aryan status is only lost after the onset of puberty”

    No, Original Nobility and Aryan blood are distinct concepts. Original Nobility begins to be lost from the first time a newborn baby stops crying after birth. Puberty is merely the final nail in the coffin. Aryan blood, on the other hand, is genetic and hence fixed for life. Those with more Aryan blood have, on average, a lighter puberty than those with less, hence the final nail is less fully hammered in for Aryans than for non-Aryans.

    For example, I may have retained 0.01% of my Original Nobility, whereas FP has retained 0%. That’s the scale of the effect of Aryan blood we are talking about. But even I can’t access the other 99.99% of my Original Nobility, except during a few peak moments.

  40. Osaka Ali says:

    @Hashtali @LoZ @Andalucian Warrior

    “… the literature itself should be kept accessible so we can know our enemies.”

    Alright, I see what you’re saying. Can we meet halfway? You can keep a preserved ‘Alexandrian’ library of the works of the jew-supremacists for posterity. Just let me incinerate the accounting records in their entirety and use the ashes for fertilizer.

    Do we have a deal? :-)

  41. Alex Alexander says:

    “Very interesting that you would chose to point this out”

    I know that was a mistake and I understand, I have the same problem as well with certain words, it’s embarrassing when I make those mistakes.

    But, thinking about it, we should make a comparison between education systems that are oriented towards child-rearing and child-care.

    Ever heard of the Brooklyn Free School or the Free school movement? It could be something that we could emulate for childhood education.

  42. Alex Alexander says:

    Not emulating the whole thing completely, but the general idea of it.

  43. Hashtali says:

    @AW
    “There is loads of literature that has Aryanist tendencies. The problem is that there is hardly anyone who agrees with us on every issue. For example, Rousseau believed in ethical childcare, Agrarianism, autarchy and was a proto-Fascist, but liked Jews, so we can’t use him.”

    That’s why I wouldn’t call it “Aryanist”. Aryanist literature would be written by Aryanists. Literature with Aryanist tendencies is in fact literature with Aryan tendencies, and likely written by somebody who was Aryan to some extent. And I agree that there is plenty of Aryan literature, but to accept it as Aryanist is to accept some non-Aryanist ideas in it as well.
    You used Rousseau as an example, so I will as well. Admittedly, I am not as familiar with Rousseau as you are, but there seems to be positions we can agree on, such as childcare (I’m basing this off your statements and on some reviews of Emile that I’ve read). However, I would not call Rousseau an Aryanist writer, as that would mean accepting the non-Aryanist (and non-Aryan) material along with the Aryanist (and Aryan) one. For example, his conception of the state is one based on individuals acting out of self-interest through a contract (which, by the way, is completely different from fascism, as fascists view the state as an organic whole and would believe such “individuals” agreeing on a contract are abstract and not real; i.e. Rousseau was not a proto-fascist), and he even used the analogy of hunters working together to cath bigger prey! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stag_hunt) Promoting Rousseau as Aryanist would only lead to the corruption of our movement.
    (Coincidentally, I also briefly addressed another one of Rousseau’s positions a while back: https://trueleftblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/true-freedom-versus-paternalist-nonsense/)

    Is there anybody from Vienna (or even Austria) reading this? We need your help! http://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/3880902-right-wing-anti-immigrant-party-poised-to-win-vienna-vote.html#.1258-stage-hero1-4

  44. John Johnson says:

    @Osaka Ali
    “Maybe so, but I would say that our enemies (if I may say ‘our’) ideologies suffer most severely from being poor facsimiles of not our ideology, but from being based on faulty conceptions of reality. Our weltanschuung can only be judged worthy of posterity or eternity based on it’s fidelity to, or deviation from, truth. And thus so, both our and our enemies’ ideologies.”

    The problem is that non-Aryanist beliefs are built upon naturalism, whereas Aryanist beliefs are built upon idealism. Non-Aryanist beliefs are “true”, and generally consistent, if one holds a naturalist worldview. This is why the biological aspect of Aryanism is so important; it is impossible to convince a naturalist to become an idealist through debate, as the naturalist is biologically incompatible with possessing an idealistic temperament.

    http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/naturalism-vs-idealism/
    http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/

    What it boils down to is not truth vs falsehood, but freedom vs slavery. Non-Aryans are content with the existence of slavery. They wish to enslave and exploit others and, usually unwittingly, are content to be slaves to nature itself. Aryans wish to destroy slavery and leave the prison of material existence entirely. Both sets of beliefs can be valid and “true” depending on one’s worldview, but only one is objectively MORALLY WORTHY of support. Ignoble people are fundamentally immoral, but why should they care? They can satisfy their desires just fine without empathy. How many times have you heard racists say “racism is natural” (which is indeed a true statement).

    So, it is ultimately a battle between good and evil, between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. Some people sincerely find no logical flaws with belonging to the side of evil. We hate evil people not because their beliefs are “false”, but because their beliefs are ignoble. To us, slavery is morally repulsive and an unsatisfactory condition, thus it is evil and must be destroyed.

    “Neutral bystanders that we seek to affect or touch should be moved similarly by truth and our movement’s proximity (or lack of) to it.”

    Yes, but the problem is that our enemies have the upper hand in terms of propaganda at the moment. They are more organized and their arguments are more well-known since they have a large quantity of people spreading their filth. To gain a foothold in the short term we must be able to counter them, because tribalists (both Jews and Gentiles) control which topics people are debating about. We must show neutral people that there is another position besides PC and ZC/BS regarding ‘hot button’ issues.

    “Any community that isn’t shouldn’t be the concern of our propaganda, wouldn’t you say?”

    Generally yes, but the problem is that most of us live in democratic states, and thus must win a certain percentage of votes to get anywhere.. Those with strong Aryan blood memory will quickly be drawn to our side, but it might be more difficult to convince the so called ‘raceless’ people who possess little or no blood memory from any race.

  45. LuciferOverZion says:

    It’s almost the same pattern in every democratic country: a liberal and a conservative party, a reactionary controlled opposition and sometimes even another fake opposition party designed to dupe young Aryans.

    Madness.

  46. Andalucian Warrior says:

    >Non-Aryan children rebel by wanting to grow up as quickly as possible and be perceived as an adult by other adults … In absolute contrast, Aryan children rebel by swearing to never join the adult world and never become like adults

    I knew you would say that. That still only refers to people who have already went through puberty.

    >Promoting Rousseau as Aryanist would only lead to the corruption of our movement.

    I don’t think we should promote him as an Aryanist. I was just using him as an example.

    >For example, his conception of the state is one based on individuals acting out of self-interest through a contract

    That’s actually very similar to the Fascist concept of the state. The Fascist believes that a group of people can achieve more working as a single unit than they can as individuals. That is why their symbol is the Fasces – many rods bound together are stronger than many unbound rods. So, the Fascist state is also a ‘contract’ in the sense of Rousseau, since it is in the interest of the individual to be part of the state. My main disagreement with his ‘social contract’ idea is that I think it is absurd to think one can be bound by a contract they never signed. That is why our ideas on migration are good – it allows people to choose which contract (state) they want to sign (be a subject/ citizen of), thus making it a real contract and not just an absurd abstraction.

  47. AS says:

    @AW

    “That still only refers to people who have already went through puberty.”

    Not only. In fact, I had a classmate when I was about 6 years old who frequently talked to me explicitly about the importance of “maturity” (it was actually from him that I came across this word for the first time in my life!) and was obsessed with being mature and/or being perceived as mature even at his age then. Back then, part of our homework was reading fiction books borrowed from the school library. This guy made a point of avoiding all categorical children’s fiction and only borrowing fiction that he was sure was suitable for adults also.

    Also, by the age of 10, I had many classmates who were already watching porn, and who bullied me for “still” watching after-school cartoons.

  48. Andalucian Warrior says:

    OK, but my point is that the way you have written that passage makes it sound like you are only referring to people who have already went through puberty

  49. Andalucian Warrior says:

    It doesn’t matter anyway. This is not the main issue. I was just providing examples.

  50. Are The Amish and groups who live in the Amazon rain forest and Africa be Aryans. Could we “Aryanize” the gentiles? Is it possible?

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