To those who insisted that ICE was only targeting “illegals”

At the beginning of the Trump administration, I predicted:

You let them get away with deporting people a vanload at a time without consequence and eventually they will deport tens of millions. You let them test, prove effective, practice and - most importantly - psychopolitically normalize their physical techniques of forcibly rounding up and deporting refugees/undocumented: … and eventually they will apply the exact same techniques to green card holders, naturalized citizens and, yes, ultimately even citizens born in the US so long as they are of the “wrong” ethnicity, “wrong” religion or “wrong” politics

And of course no one believed me enough to start shooting Rehabs on sight.

So now:

His official American birth certificate shows he was delivered by a midwife in Brownsville, at the southern tip of Texas. He spent his life wearing American uniforms: three years as a private in the Army, then as a cadet in the Border Patrol and now as a state prison guard.

But when Juan, 40, applied to renew his U.S. passport this year, the government’s response floored him. In a letter, the State Department said it didn’t believe [ie. guilty until proven innocent - AS] he was an American citizen.

As he would later learn, Juan is one of a growing number of people whose official birth records show they were born in the United States but who are now being denied passports — their citizenship suddenly thrown into question. The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Hispanics along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown.

In some cases, passport applicants with official U.S. birth certificates are being jailed in immigration detention centers and entered into deportation proceedings. In others, they are stuck in Mexico, their passports suddenly revoked when they tried to reenter the United States. As the Trump administration attempts to reduce both legal and illegal immigration, the government’s treatment of passport applicants in South Texas shows how U.S. citizens are increasingly being swept up by immigration enforcement agencies.

Juan said he was infuriated by the government’s response. “I served my country. I fought for my country,” he said, speaking on the condition that his last name not be used so that he wouldn’t be targeted by immigration enforcement.

When Juan, the former soldier, received a letter from the State Department telling him it wasn’t convinced [ie. guilty until proven innocent - AS] that he was a U.S. citizen, it requested a range of obscure documents — evidence of his mother’s prenatal care, his baptismal certificate, rental agreements from when he was a baby.

He managed to find some of those documents but weeks later received another denial. In a letter, the government said the information “did not establish [ie. guilty until proven innocent - AS] your birth in the United States.”

By such exorbitant standards of proof, in all likelihood tens of millions of “white” (including Jewish) US citizens would not be able to prove that they were born in the US either. But of course they won’t be asked to do so in the first place. Because we all know what this is really about.

In a case last August, a 35-year-old Texas man with a U.S. passport was interrogated while crossing back into Texas from Mexico with his son at the ­McAllen-Hidalgo-Reynosa International Bridge, connecting Reynosa, Mexico, to McAllen, Tex.

His passport was taken from him, and Customs and Border Protection agents told him to admit that he was born in Mexico, according to documents later filed in federal court. He refused and was sent to the Los Fresnos Detention Center and entered into deportation proceedings.

In some cases, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have arrived at his clients’ homes without notice and taken passports away.


Moral 2: Your US birth certificate/passport is not what makes you American, because ICE can just grab it from you by brute force and then call it a “Fake Birth Certificate”/”Fake Passport” (you should have expected such terminology coming – I did! – ever since Trump coined the term “Fake News”; next they will be talking about “Fake Citizens”…..). What stands between ICE and your birth certificate/passport is your willingness to use your firearm. Thus #FightICEwithfire is what makes you American.

And of course this principle applies elsewhere also. This is why I will never believe that any establishment government is sincerely pro-refugee (as opposed to merely doing its part to set up the far-right backlash) unless it is proactively supplying refugees with firearms, ammo and training as soon as they are offered asylum. Because ultimately it means nothing for refugees merely to be given state-issued documents proving they are citizens when the rightists who want to exterminate refugees are barbarians who will just call your state-issued documents “Fake Documents” and ignore them. The same barbarians can call your Ahimsa bullets “Fake Bullets” all they want; the bullets will still put holes through their heads. This is the difference between documents and bullets, and hence between nominal asylum and genuine asylum.


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30 Responses to To those who insisted that ICE was only targeting “illegals”

  1. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    I’ve been asking a lot of Americans who were born in other countries but hold US citizenship whether or not they feel American lately, most of them say no.

    I ask this of people because I’m a German citizen who served in the US Army, yet I do not feel American myself either.


    What does it even mean to be American at this point?

    The words from a hook to a favorite hip-hop song of mine keep bouncing around in my mind when I think on this subject, “the people are dead but the money keeps talking”…

    You ask what it will take for true Americans to standup and do the right thing?

    I honestly don’t know…?

  2. AS says:

    The administration’s new proposal does not set limits on the amount of time children could be held in detention.

    the Trump administration is also seeking greater flexibility to decide when to give children snacks

    The regulations would also strip unaccompanied minors of special protections under the law

    “All of these point to a desire to keep more children in jail longer,” said Omar Jadwat, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s immigrants’ rights project.

    In August, the mother of a Guatemalan toddler filed a claim alleging the little girl died in May as a result of negligent medical care while detained with hundreds of other families in Texas.

    At least Gallego has a vaguely practical attitude:

    A Democratic lawmaker issued a startling warning to government officials involved in “illegal” deportations that they “will not be safe” from future punishment when Donald Trump is no longer president.

    “If you are a US government official and you are deporting Americans be warned,” Arizona Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego tweeted early Thursday. “When the worm turns you will not be safe because you were just following orders. You do not have to take part in illegal acts ordered by this President’s administration.”

    But will later action against ICE bring back the dead toddler? No. So just holding ICE to account in future is not good enough. There is also the duty to target them in the present using firearms before more innocent people become their victims.

    By merely threatening to get back at ICE after Trump is no longer in power, Gallego in reality only motivates them more than ever to KEEP TRUMP IN POWER (and hence themselves safe), in other words to deport as many Americans as possible so as to reduce the numbers of Trump’s opposition! Only putting holes through their heads day by day will make them feel actual pressure to stop deportations.


    “What does it even mean to be American at this point?”

    I wish I could post the proper link, but JJ says not yet…..

    Do you feel closer to the New World than to the Old World?

    If so, you feel American.

    The question you should ask US residents in particular is: do they feel closer to other (ie. non-US) New World countries than to Old World countries? If so, they feel American.

    Other questions:

    Do you like Pueblo Revival and Diner architecture?

    Do you like popcorn?

    Is fast-food your favourite restaurant type?

    Do you like Quantum Leap?

    Do you like the Chipmunks?

    Do you like Carmen Sandiego?

    Do you like RoboCop?

    Do you like Elvira?

    Do you like Garfield?

    Do you like Moonwalker?

    This is just off the top of my head. The ways of characterizing Americanness are almost endless (or at least limited only by your knowledge of pop culture)…..

    Bonus video:

  3. ItIsWhatItIs says:


    Thanks for the food for thought, good stuff to think about here.

    “Bonus video:

    LOL! Nice! Was completely unaware of this.

  4. Sun of the Isles says:

    Not relating to the central topic of the article, but good news from Turkey:

    Again America and the pig Trump has caused inflation in the whole world, including my country Indonesia. The whole world will do good to learn from Turkey’s policy.

  5. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    Provoked by BDS campaign, Trump administration says anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism:

  6. CX says:

    Check this video out quite interesting!

  7. AS says:


    Jews also post propaganda showing how clean Israel is and how dirty Palestine is. We do not take them seriously either. (Besides, your comment is under the wrong post.)

  8. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    I’m not a cultural relativist by any standard, Israel should have been invaded by the rest of humanity long ago. Even as a German citizen who has served in the U.S. Army I have a hard time telling Americans that they should shoot ICE agents, just doesn’t feel like it’s my place to do so. Ironically, I would also site this example as another reason why I do not feel American myself…

  9. I would also site this example as another reason why I do not feel American myself…

    I get what you’re saying. Violence, in all forms, even retaliatory, can be distressing. Yet remember, the US became the US when people decided to shoot at British Redcoats. A tough and stressful route followed, though it wasn’t necessarily intended as such. It was the price of removing an injustice. It’s easier to justify opposing external enemies, as the British were, yet the Trump government is becoming more and more an obvious domestic enemy.

  10. ItIsWhatItIs says:


    Great point.

    Worthwhile Trump and Richard Spencer meme in regards to ICE and immigration I think, if anyone wants it:

  11. Lucius Rhine says:

    It is unfortunate that Aryanism must come to this form of violence. While racism is abhorrable, the undeniable fact that AS cannot perceive (or he is willingly ignorant) of the consequences that “Shooting racists” would cause. At the very least, this would cause the death of the fledgling Aryanist movement. But the worst case scenario is also the most likely, that this declared open season on racists would devolve into a full on civil war in the United States, giving the Rightists what they are begging for. AS himself has said time and time again that rightists are several orders of magnitude better armed than the leftists. All the ethnobolsheviks need is that spark of the “oppressive leftists” to bring out the guillotines. Already, the main news sites like *Reddit* are censoring 9/11 inquiries – the establishment of new ethnobolshevism has already begun, and the worst thing we can do is give them a reason to step on the gas.

    Things are going slowly right now, which we should have been using to our advantage to better plan and strategize all along. But all it takes is one person – ONE PERSON AS!!!! – to come across this website and see “Shoot this fool’s jaw off” to where someone does it. And who is to blame? Not just you, AS, but everyone who has ever contributed here. All of us, behind bars, not doing revolutionary things. This is not like 1920′s Germany. You will not write a book to sway the masses and come out of jail swinging. You will maybe have a few radical followers like Charles Manson that are more nuts than you have become, and then it will end like Waco, like Rajneeshpuram, like so many other radical communities before you.

    We love you AS, none of us would have been here without you, and those that have contributed but now are gone. But seriously buddy, take some time off, and get some fresh air before you get yourself (and the rest of us) killed before we can do anything.

  12. Philistine says:
    (For the record, we do not endorse visitors of this site engaging in any kind of illegal activity.)


    “the bullets will still put holes through their heads.”

    Yes, and then you will be put in Guantanamo Bay.

  13. Robert Young says:


    “You will maybe have a few radical followers like Charles Manson that are more nuts than you have become”

    Are you suggesting that AS is gonna become an evil person like Charles Manson, a confirmed white supremacist, was when he was alive?

    But speaking of Manson, isn’t he considered a figure in the countercultural revolution in the 1960’s, enabled by the likes of ‘The Beach Boys’ & ‘The Beatles’ (a band which the main site has praised)?

    Also, I despise pop music in the United States and the UK. Even many pop stars have taken issue with pop music.


    “Yes, and then you will be put in Guantanamo Bay.”

    Well, time to shut down Gitmo.

  14. AS says:


    Patrick Henry argued in the Virginia ratification convention on June 5, 1788, for the dual rights to arms and resistance to oppression:
    Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.[124]


    OK, answer my original question: where do you draw your line? To me, deporting US citizens seems a reasonable place to draw the line even by the most conservative standards. As does, for that matter, appointing to the Supreme Court someone who has committed perjury:

    Or purging voter rolls at the last minute:

    Perhaps you disagree that the line should be drawn at these actions. I don’t mind that. What matters is you draw a line SOMEWHERE, and then honour it, by which I mean you do not keep shifting it backwards as our enemies keep advancing. For this reason, it would be best if you let everyone know right now where your line is drawn.

    “AS himself has said time and time again that rightists are several orders of magnitude better armed than the leftists.”

    Yes, and your task is to correct this disparity. Just remember that every time they deport someone, we lose one potential soldier for our side, so no matter how bad you think our chances in a civil war would be now, our chances will be even worse after they finish deporting everyone they want to deport. I will leave the calculation to you.

    I don’t know how dangerous you think the situation is for US leftists where you live, but it would be hard to believe that it can be worse than the situation of those who live in Gaza or the West Bank (is having 9/11 inquiry censored on Reddit worse than having water supplies cut off?). The IDF is also several orders of magnitude better armed than the Palestinians. Shouldn’t the Palestinians thus have even better reasons to worry about the IDF, in your words, “bringing out the guillotines” after being “given reasons to step on the gas”?

    But what the Palestinians understand is that even the IDF is composed of individuals who would rather live than die. Everyone knows Palestine would lose if the IDF went all-out against them, but the Palestinians would take many IDF troops down with them. Because Israel values Jewish lives, total war has not been declared on Palestine. Whereas if Palestinians had retreated every time Israel advanced, there would already be no Palestine by now. Palestinian attacks on the IDF may appear reckless, but results would appear to support that they, who have held out for decades, are wiser than the more restrained Rohingya who have been routed within a few years.

    On the other hand, remember this recent shooter?,_2018#Macerata_murder_and_attack

    On 3 February 2018, a drive-by shooting event occurred in the city of Macerata, Marche in Central Italy where six African migrants were seriously wounded.[69] A 28-year-old local man, Luca Traini, was arrested and charged with murder attempt, and was also charged for the attack against the local headquarters of the ruling PD party.

    Traini was a member and former local candidate of the Lega, and many political commentators, intellectuals and politicians harshly criticized party leader Matteo Salvini, in connection with the attack, accusing him of having “spread hate and racism” in the country. Particularly, Roberto Saviano, the notable anti-mafia writer, labeled Salvini as the “moral instigator” of Traini’s attack.

    Now Lega is in government.

    As always, you are free to believe I am wrong. I wish every waking minute that I were wrong, the more wrong the better! But I write what I write when I write it so that readers can come back to it in the future when the dust has settled and it becomes easier to see how the move I was advising was the move that could have saved the game, even if it is by then too late to play it. That is all. You are free to continue playing different moves to those which I advise, and I will still congratulate you if you win.

  15. Manuel Nigao says:

    I knew that there was only one way out – and that was certainly not to fight against England. Even though I did not get permission from the Fuhrer to fly I knew that what I had to say would have had his approval. Hitler had great respect for the English people. – Rudolf Hess.

    But yet this site claims Hitler wasn’t pro-European or Pan-Germanic.

  16. Philistine says:

    @Manuel Nigao
    I didn’t realize Hitler’s “respect for the English people” was evidence of him being pro-European (as you understand it) or Pan-Germanic, especially considering the fact that he said the Germans were closer to the Muslims and the Japanese than the French.

  17. Manuel Nigao says:


    Yeah well it does show him being Pro-European.

    This site wants to flood Europe with non-whites from Africa and Asia and genocide the white race through race-mixing and cohabitation. The people who run this site are the real racists.

  18. Manuel Nigao says:

    And that quote is directly from Rudolf Hess, the DEPUTY FUHRER.

  19. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    @Manuel Nigao:

    Why are you even here to begin with?

  20. ItIsWhatItIs says:


    I don’t think things are moving as slowly as you might believe. There’s a Jew that was literally reading Trump’s intel briefings:–that-trump-doesnt-read-his-daily-intel-briefing-or-that-jared-kushner-does/2018/02/11/faad67e4-0f30-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.efaecfa239ab

    Things seem pretty serious to me at this point.

  21. AS says:


    “This site wants to flood Europe with non-whites from Africa and Asia and genocide the white race through race-mixing and cohabitation. The people who run this site are the real racists.”

    We want people REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC BACKGROUND to be allowed to live wherever they choose.

    You want “non-whites” to be prohibited from living in Europe BECAUSE they are “non-white”. (But “whites” can live outside Europe.)

    Who is the racist?

  22. Manuel Nigao says:


    Wrong. I want whites to live only in Europe, I want them to leave America and return to their native homelands. I don’t mind blacks and Native Americans having the United States and Canada. And I want the boers and Afrikaners to leave South Africa and come back to Europe too.

    Just look at France where migrants have flooded Paris and have now made Paris barely recognisable in terms of a huge demographic change, people urinating in the streets, no French culture, migrants beating up police in the streets. That is the result of letting people live wherever they choose.

  23. Manuel Nigao says:


    Because I fucking can? Problem?

  24. Philistine says:

    @Manuel Nigao

    “Yeah well it does” is such a great response. I’m not sure if your brain can process this, but if Hitler says that the Germans are spiritually closer to non-Europeans, then it means he wasn’t “pro-European.”

  25. ItIsWhatItIs says:


    “Because I fucking can? Problem?“

    Well, being that and National Socialists are anti-identitarian and you are clearly an identitarian I was just curious why you would waste your time here, but hey, it’s your time I guess….

  26. AS says:

    More voter purging:

    They can purge voters, but they cannot purge bullets. Therefore when they are purging voters, the correct response is firearms.



    “I want them to leave America and return to their native homelands.”

    And what if they themselves don’t want to leave America? Do you endorse kidnapping them and trafficking them to Europe by force, and then punishing them if they try to go back to America?

    We, of course, think they should be allowed to stay in America if they prefer to.

  27. Robert Young says:


    ‘Therefore when they are purging voters, the correct response is firearms.’

    No; the correct response is actually making solid and consistent arguments against the GOP’s policies without directly using physical violence. By encouraging the use of firearms at this point, you only rally the Republicans and their enablers together to keep on committing evils, and (figuratively and literally) shoot down any legitimate opposition against them in general; and the legitimate opposition against the Republicans is, unfortunately, very weak right now.

  28. Manuel Nigao says:


    We all know that your agenda is to see a world that only consists of dark skinned people through interbreeding between peoples of completely different ethnic origin.

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