Rutuli 2017

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/822649/Italy-migrant-rescue-boats-EU-fails-European-Commission-refugees-Mediterranean-Italy

a group of far-right activists have chartered a boat in the Mediterranean to disrupt rescue missions.

Identitarian activists for the ‘Defend Europe’ campaign raised €65,000 to support efforts to impede humanitarian missions.

Defend Europe intends to follow search-and-rescue vessels, document their activities and ‘confront’ them by blockading them on the seas. The aim is to force the NGO ships to alter their routes, drain their financial and organisational resources, as well inspire others to support the mission.

Thousands of innocent people could drown every day if their missions are successful.

Are the NGO vessels ready to destroy the identitarian vessel as soon as they encounter it? If not, then the identitarians win. It is that simple. You cannot help the innocent without killing the bad guys. You cannot be a “rescue vessel” without also being a combat vessel, because how do you reach in time the people who need to be rescued without being ready to eliminate without delay those who are trying to obstruct you? Pacifism does not work, has never worked and will never work.

But does the False Left get this?

Nick Lowles, chief executive of HOPE not hate, said: “While the Identitarian movement has always used controversial and confrontational tactics the hiring of this ship is emblematic of a dangerous new confidence within the movement.

“The project also reveals an increasingly international threat, with key activists coming from across Europe while support, including financial, has flooded in from around the world.

“We will be monitoring the ship’s movements very closely and liaising with NGOs and supporters over the coming months to ensure the relevant authorities are aware of the situation. We will forge a coalition of progressive organisations to oppose this dangerous new development on our high seas.”

“Monitoring” does not kill identitarians. “Liasing” does not kill identitarians. “Ensuring awareness” does not kill identitarians. “Forging a coalition” does not kill identitarians. TORPEDOES would work. ROCKET-PROPELLED GRENADES might also work. SHOOTING THE IDENTITARIANS before they even board their ship could be another option. Unless you are talking openly about measures like these, you too are accountable for the thousands of innocent people drowning every day.

Identitarians also existed in myth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutuli

Thought to have been descended from the Umbri and the Pelasgians

In Virgil’s Aeneid, and also according to Livy,[4] the Rutuli are led by Turnus, a young prince to whom Latinus, king of the Latins, had promised the hand of his daughter Lavinia in marriage. When the Trojans arrived in Italy, Latinus [Note: great-grandson of Saturn, by no coincidence] decided to give his daughter to Aeneas because of instructions he had received from the gods to marry his daughter to a foreigner. Turnus was outraged and led his people as well as several other Italian tribes against the Trojans in war.

This is how we dealt with them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnus

Turnus begs Aeneas either to spare him or give his body back to his people. Aeneas considers but upon seeing the belt of Pallas on Turnus, he is consumed by rage and finishes him off. The last line of the poem describes Turnus’ unhappy passage into the Underworld.

Aeneas > Nick Lowles

Hate > Hope

“He who cannot hate the Devil cannot love God.” – Joseph Goebbels

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26 Responses to Rutuli 2017

  1. NuminousSun says:

    @AS:

    I know you’ve posted about it before, but I do not remember some of the links you used to prove your point. What would you say are some of the similarities between the Alt-Right and Bolshevik Russia in regards to immigration, and refugees?

    What do you think about Marx and immigration?

  2. NuminousSun says:

    Also, from the Foundations of the True Left page on the main site it states, “The False Left refers to Freemasonry, a post-Renaissance Zionist creation…”, would it not be more accurate just to say ‘Jewish’ rather than Zionist in that specific sentence?

  3. AS says:

    @NS

    “I know you’ve posted about it before, but I do not remember some of the links you used to prove your point. What would you say are some of the similarities between the Alt-Right and Bolshevik Russia in regards to immigration, and refugees?”

    Are you referring to the links near the bottom of this comment?

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/when-the-obvious-is-not-obvious-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-167497

    “What do you think about Marx and immigration?”

    A theoretical Marxist could welcome immigration of proles only, while rejecting immigration of bourgeois (and other “enemies of the proletariat”). On the other hand, a theoretical Marxist could also believe that proles elsewhere should if possible try to overthrow the bourgeois in their existing countries rather than emigrate.

    “Also, from the Foundations of the True Left page on the main site it states, “The False Left refers to Freemasonry, a post-Renaissance Zionist creation…”, would it not be more accurate just to say ‘Jewish’ rather than Zionist in that specific sentence?”

    Jews create some things in order to serve Zionism, and other things because they sense that if they don’t, someone else soon will, so they would rather be the ones to do so. I consider Freemasonry to belong to the first category.

    _____

    Now Austria is starting to sell out to V4:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-4663920/Austria-control-Italy-border-send-armoured-vehicles-block-migrants–ministry.html

    Again, I predicted this years in advance. We already knew the way Austria was headed:

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/ZC-FPO.jpg

    If Hungary had been invaded the very first day it closed its borders, we wouldn’t be in this situation today. When the False Left lacks the nerve for decisive military action while the problem is still small, we end up in a mess like this.

    And I say it again: unless Hungary is invaded NOW, we will see even more EU countries defecting to Turandom over time. As always, I wish I am wrong but I doubt it.

  4. NuminousSun says:

    @AS:

    “Are you referring to the links near the bottom of this comment?”

    Those are the ones, thanks!

    “Now Austria is starting to sell out to V4:”

    Sometimes I wonder, maybe it’s for the best…

    IT IS TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
    http://thebulletin.org/clock/2017

    Subject of saint just: “But, but, Sire, my beautiful white skin is melting and all the crops and livestock are dead, I must find shelter for my children! Furthermore, no one will trade with us because everything is so contaminated!?”

    saint just: “Coward!”

  5. NuminousSun says:

    Not to be to much of a downer, but I thought I’d mention that Professor John A. Powell of the Haas Institute, who has done a lot of good work in regards to unraveling “black” and “white” identity, once said in an interview that most of his colleagues feel that it’s already to late…

  6. NuminousSun says:

    I suppose if we take John A. Powell as an example, rather than his colleagues, onward!

    This is a great point from the main site: “False Left ties itself in knots with such garbage as a tolerant society should not tolerate tolerance for intolerance…”
    I was actually playing that game with myself the other day, not realizing that it was on the main site, and perhaps had been stuck in my subconscious from it. One can actually go on like that for quite a while I found…

  7. anon says:

    Offtop: Anti-Fascist, Trump protesters applaud speech comprised entirely of Hitler quotes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc

  8. Legion says:

    @anon Wow haha that’s pretty funny. At first I wasn’t sure that was intentional, but it seems the guy planned it that way. I wonder if he was an alt-righter trying to show off how “leftists are the true Nazis,” or if it was a True Leftist trying to properly guide the left. It seems the former is far more likely the scenario. I suppose the false left is one step closer to smelling the coffee.

  9. Board owner says:

    Would Aryanists have enough personnel to spare to man their own vessel in opposition to this rightist effort? Not like I have a ship myself, just asking. I’d be willing to throw funds at such an endeavour and if it materialised, form part of a crew. Also, beside the point, I’m wondering if the 8chan board I made for anti-zionism should be abandoned/repurposed. Nobody uses it, I’m guessing the ‘ideas tennis’ and shitposting takes place in your discord group. If so, I’ll DL the program and migrate my efforts there, unless you’re opposed to my presence.

  10. NuminousSun says:

    I wasn’t even aware we had an 8chan board…

    Something else anti-fa and neo-fascists have in common:

    “Compared to modern race relations, black people in Roman history were not discriminated against because of their skin color or physical features.[6] Translators of ancient texts project modern oppressive sentiments of black people, which inaccurately conveys the tone or purpose of the author’s writing. Classical authors did not attach social status or degree of humanity to skin color.[3] Roman slavery did not include black inferiority as European and American slavery did, because the notion that black skin is ugly and inferior is much more modern.[7] Greek and Latin writers did not expend large amounts of energy to distinguish between skin colors as the modern English language does.[6]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_Ancient_Roman_history

  11. Board owner says:

    Sorry, I should include a link.

  12. NuminousSun says:

    @AS:

    Any thoughts on H.L. Mencken, and using his quotes?

    http://articles.latimes.com/1989-12-05/news/mn-198_1_h-l-mencken

    “But the diary discloses Mencken’s “deeply ingrained conviction that black people were by their very nature inferior to white,” Fecher wrote.”

    Not sure if I trust Fecher…

  13. AS says:

    @BO

    “Would Aryanists have enough personnel to spare to man their own vessel in opposition to this rightist effort? Not like I have a ship myself, just asking. I’d be willing to throw funds at such an endeavour and if it materialised, form part of a crew.”

    If you have enough money for a ship, I would suggest spending it on rifles and ammunition instead. A ship is useful only for naval operations, whereas rifles are useful for all combat operations. A sniper squad could – as alluded in the original post – take out the identitarians at the harbour, which would be much more cost-efficient. The stuff about torpedoes etc. was intended for established rescue groups already running regular rescue voyages (with or without identitarian interference), not for focused anti-identitarian militias.

    Send in a contact form if you are serious.

    Latest news:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4675630/American-student-22-beaten-death-Greek-island.html

    @NS

    ““But the diary discloses Mencken’s “deeply ingrained conviction that black people were by their very nature inferior to white,” Fecher wrote.”
    Not sure if I trust Fecher…”

    Why not trust him? Just remember that this is an evaluation BY WESTERN STANDARDS. In Mencken’s own words (from the same article):

    Of blacks, he wrote in September, 1943, that ” . . . it is impossible to talk anything resembling discretion or judgment to a colored woman. They are all essentially child-like, and even hard experience does not teach them anything.”

    BY WESTERN STANDARDS, being childlike is inferior. BY LUCIFERIAN STANDARDS, being childlike is superior. So we do not have to disagree with Mencken’s basic observation in order to disagree with his Westerner’s evaluation. (We do of course disagree with his overgeneralizing use of the word “all”, as counterexamples surely exist.)

    Remember this chart?

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/age-shift.jpg

    It is common knowledge that “black” Americans are more likely to vote Democrat, which would fit the theory that they are more childlike (on average). Moreover:

    Although a majority of Americans still view Israel favorably, support is declining among younger Americans and especially among the black and Latino population.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/israel-u-young-black-latino-134228230.html

  14. NuminousSun says:

    @AS:

    “Remember this chart?”

    About to insert it into my document, right before I read this actually.

    Seems all the great anti-democracy quotes are ruined by the characters of the people that said them, outside of the best NSDAP members obviously…

  15. NuminousSun says:

    I guess I’ll just have to settle with some Plato quotes then…

  16. NuminousSun says:

    …or maybe not after reading that article you posted AS.

    Jesus!

  17. Recently, I’ve been doing some research on Aryan themes in Greek and Roman mythology. It can be said that to deal with this topic I was inspired by AS, who some time ago was writing interesting how Romans preferred Hector over Achilles as a literary hero. I recently wrote a article on differences in perception of Hector and Achilles in Greek and Roman literature. Based on my research I can completely confirm the words AS. For the Romans, Hector was the most noble figure of the Trojan War myth, the embodiment of a brave patriot who sacrifices for his fatherland. There is a huge difference between the perception of Achilles by the Greeks and the Romans. Achilles, who was admired by Homer and the Greeks as a hero ideal and model of perfection, in the eyes of Roman authors (Virgil, Ovid, Horace or Seneca the Younger) was a saevus (‘cruel’), immitis (‘ruthless’), criminal, murder and destroyer.

    From an Arianist perspective, the Trojan War is good example of Aryan themes in ancient mythology, where the Trojans can be identified with the Aryans and the Greeks with the Gentiles. Hector is really a great character when it comes to finding Aryan characters in myths. Movie “Troy” (2004) is also could be considered as Trojan War in Roman perspective. The perspective in which Hector was portrayed in this movie is, in my view, also close to the perspective of Roman poets, because Hector was portrayed as much more noble and heroic than Iliad.

    In the context of Romans, it is also interesting that all the emperors who were autocratic and opposed the conservative senate were cruelly maligned in Roman historiography, which – with few exceptions – was written by historians from the senatorial circles, people who were conservative-traditionalist and who remembered with sentiment the old republican system. This could be a reason why Caligula, Nero or Gallienus were denigrated. Senatorial historiography depicted them as monsters. What do you think? Can we therefore conclude that the emperors whom the Senate had slandered were more Aryan than those of which the Senate wrote positively?

  18. John Johnson says:

    @NS

    Mencken was an admirer of Nietzsche, so much so that he apparently earned the nickname “American Nietzsche”. I suppose his anti-democracy quotes can still be useful for the purpose of distinguishing our leftist criticism of democracy from his and other rightist criticisms. The media has taken to calling Alt-Right-influenced criticism of democracy the “Dark Enlightenment”. At some point we’ll need propaganda firmly distinguishing our anti-democratic views from theirs.

  19. AS says:

    @AM

    Please update us on your current activism. I am deeply worried about Islamophobia and anti-refugee attitudes in Poland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmWZsr5V0U

    Count how many times he justifies unethicality by appeal to democracy. Fucking Joetunn (notice his primitive physiognomy too)…..

    “the Trojans can be identified with the Aryans and the Greeks with the Gentiles.”

    I don’t think it is so clear-cut. Helenus and Deiphobus were trash, and Polyxena’s sympathy towards Achilles is troubling if we consider Achilles to be a villain. As for Paris, even if we take the interpretation that he honourably rescued Helen from her forced marriage* to Menelaus, it still doesn’t excuse his own infidelity towards Oenone. So besides Hector (and Aeneas), only Cassandra could be considered a positive figure, yet that the Trojans refused to believe her prophecies – and I have first-hand experience of how frustrating this is – speaks much about the low quality of the Trojans as a whole by that era.

    (* This interpretation also has repercussions on Antenor, who recommended that Helen be given back to Menelaus. If Paris taking Helen from Menelaus was ethical, then Antenor becomes a coward. Whereas if it were Antenor who was being ethical, then Paris could not have been. Either way, the Trojans don’t look too good.)

    And why should we even expect it be clear-cut? By then (Bronze Age), both the Trojans and the Greeks were racially mixed (Pelasgian blood), and both groups had a similar pantheon, similar sacrificial rituals, etc..

    “Can we therefore conclude that the emperors whom the Senate had slandered were more Aryan than those of which the Senate wrote positively?”

    We should examine the policies of each emperor and arrive at our own conclusions, rather than assume that just because the Senate didn’t like someone, we should. For example, Caligula revived democratic elections…..

  20. Coyotl says:

    From what I remember from the Iliad (if we can take it as a reliable source), the Trojans were no better than the Greeks at the time of the Trojan War at least in regards to ritual animal sacrifices, it seems like by that time the mixing with Turanian bloodlines was already solidified. Hell, Zeus is considered the main god on their side during the conflict. Also on the Greek side we have Odysseus (who if I recall had been passively admired here before) whose main quest in the Odyssey is based on nostalgia, and is explicitly stated to be held dear by Athena. At least on the Trojan side the royalty seems more noble than the Greek, with figures like Hector and Aeneas (compared to the kings Agamemnon and Menelaus).

    It seems like the best way to look at the Trojan War is simply to identify the most noble characters and elevate their personalities rather than pick a side.

  21. @AS
    “Please update us on your current activism. I am deeply worried about Islamophobia and nati-refugee attitudes in Poland.”

    Me too. Since the Law and Justice has taken the power in Poland is getting worse and worse. Anti-Islamic sentiments and hostility towards refugees are commonplace. Politicians from Law and Justice routinely equate refugees with ISIS terrorists and threaten Poles that accepting refugees would result in terrorist attacks. Unfortunately, most people buy these bullshit. Polish political scene is practically completely dominated by the identitarian right and bigger or lesser tibalists. No political party has the courage to convince the public on the moral obligation of accepting refugees. In Poland there is currently no significant party that could be considered, even to a small extend, the True Left. The ‘Left’ in Poland is generally one big joke. From the movements self-describing as ‘Left’, we just have almost openly Communist Ikonowicz, ‘Razem’ (‘Together’) Party led by the Jew Adrian Zandberg or the clown Janusz Palikot. Recently, only some of the Church’s representatives are trying to support the refugees. Bishop Pieronek recently rightly said that “Refusing accepting refugees is a practical way of resigning from being a Christian.” The far right organizes many demonstrations against the accepting of refugees. Pro-refugees manifestations are rare and fewer people come to them. According to statistics, Poland in 2016 accepted only 4,000 refugees (one refugee per million Poles), which is one big fucking joke. What can I say more? I’m simply ashamed of my country, thats all.

    As far as my activism is concerned, I have been working in one of the vegan organizations in Poland for a while now. I met many refugee-friendly people there, but as an organization we basically focus on helping the animals. Recently I also resumed studies at university (I’m studying classical philology) and unfortunately I did not have much time for political activism or even running the Aryan Articles blog. I will try to catch up with work on this vacation.

    “Helenus and Deiphobus were trash”

    Agree.

    “and Polyxena’s sympathy towards Achilles is troubling if we consider Achilles to be a villain”

    Ovid, for example, presented this differently. In the Metamorphoses he introduced Polyxena as a brave girl who chose to die rather than be a greek slave. This is an Aryan attitude. (A man or woman of honour is prepared to die – if necessary by their own hand – rather than suffer the indignity of having to do anything dishonourable – David Myatt) Polyxena also criticizes her own mother, Hecuba, who apparently preferred to stay alive:

    “Now, she was torn from her mother’s arms, and the girl, almost Hecuba’s only comfort, ill-fated, but with more than a woman’s courage, was led to the burial mound and became a victim of the dread grave. She remembered who she was, set before the brutal altar, knowing the savage rite was readied for her, and when she saw Neoptolemus standing, gripping his sword, his eyes gazing at her face, she said: ‘Now, shed noble blood, nothing prevents you: but sheathe your sword in my throat or in my breast,’ and she uncovered both her throat and her breast, ‘Polyxena, for certain, has no desire to be slave to any man! No god will be appeased by such a rite as this! I only wish my death could be unknown to my mother: my mother weakens and lessens my joy in death, though it is not my dying but her living that is terrible.”
    http://ovid.lib.virginia.edu/trans/Metamorph13.htm

    “As for Paris, even if we take the interpretation that he honourably rescued Helen from her forced marriage* to Menelaus, it still doesn’t excuse his own infidelity towards Oenone.”

    Paris is an ambiguous figure. Neither in the Iliad nor by the Romans themselves he was positively represented. For example, Ovid saw in him coward and sympathized with abandoned by him Oenone (in Heroides). Paris was criticized (by Hector) for preferring to be with Helen in her bedroom rather than defending Troy from Greeks. But in my interpretation of the myth, Paris changed much after Hector’s death when he took on him the burden of being a defender of Troy. He fought bravely in many battles, he even managed to avenge Hector’s death by killing Achilles. Eventually, he was remembered by the Trojans not as a coward or the one who brought doom on Troy, but as a hero who fought in defend of his country and killed the biggest villain, Achilles. But it’s only my interpretation and it might be wrong.

    “So besides Hector (and Aeneas), only Cassandra could be considered a positive figure”

    What about Priam, King of Troy? In Iliad, for example, it is mentioned that (except of Paris, of course) only Priam and Hector supported Helen when the Trojan people accused her of being the cause of Troy’s misery. He treated Helen like a doughter. Virgil in Aeneid also spoke positively on him.

    If we want to closely track the Trojan characters appearing in the Trojan Cycle, we could find many more positive characters. For example, there is Astyanax, Hector’s son, who in Seneca’s tragedy ‘Troades’ (‘The Trojan Women’) reminded his father so much that they saw in him the future Hector, the one who will restore the power of Troy and take revenge on those who destroyed her. Astyanax preferred to commit suicide by jumping from the tower rather than being sacrificed to the Achilles spirit by the Greeks. There is also Troilus, who in later (in medieval, for example) interpretations, was considered as virtuous knight.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troilus

    On the other hand, on the Greek side I do not see any positive figures. Even Diomedes, who was presented in the Iliad as the most ‘noble’ of the Greeks, murdered defenseless Trojan captive Dolon, even though Diomedes, together with Odysseus, lied him that they would spare his life if Dolon would give them information they needed.

    “yet that the Trojans refused to believe her prophecies – and I have first-hand experience of how frustrating this is – speaks much about the low quality of the Trojans as a whole by that era”

    Maybe I did not express myself precisely enough before. Of course, not all Trojans were high quality people. For example most of the ordinary Trojans, were quite hostile to Helen, whom they considered to be Greek and did not accept her willingness to be a Trojan. In addition, they accused her that it was she who brought doom on Troy. I say, however, that although the Trojan masses were perhaps not of the highest quality, they were leaded by the Aryan aristocracy in the person of Hector or Priam, who sought to ennoble the majority. This is a fairly clear analogy to the Third Reich. As Aryans were always a minority in every population, most Germans also may not have been too racially valuable. But they were led by the few Aryan individuals (Hitler, Goebbels, Hess etc.) who sought to ennoble the whole of German society. In Trojan Myth, the Trojans may not have been Aryans per se, but they were led by the Aryans, as opposed to Greeks who were led by Gentiles.

  22. John Johnson says:

    @AM
    One thing that has always intrigued me about Poland is its electoral geography. The parties are almost exactly split down pre-WWI borders, with the Law and Justice party controlling the areas which fell outside of the German Empire.

    (The borders on this map are sloppy, and the real pre-WWI borders more precisely correspond to present-day local borders than it implies)
    http://atlanticsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Poland-2011-election-map.png

    I wonder if this can possibly be used to our advantage in promoting True Left beliefs in Poland. Obviously it will be difficult to promote explicitly NS things given Poland’s place in WWII, but this electoral pattern exists because of the post-WWII ethnic cleansing and “refugee crisis” created by the USSR. Perhaps demonstrating how both Germans and Poles became refugees at the hands of the Soviets can be used for anti-communist and (implicitly NS-sympathetic) pro-refugee propaganda.

    I think you have a very strong case to show being anti-refugee is fundamentally anti-Polish, considering over half of present-day Poland was populated post-1945 by refugees.

    “The region along the Baltic was only given to Poland after 1945 when most of the prewar German population was evicted. They were replaced by refugees, many fleeing from the east of prewar Poland which had been handed to the Soviet Union. Torn from their roots, the new population ended up being more cosmopolitan and politically more centrist than their cousins in the east.”
    http://atlanticsentinel.com/2015/09/polands-election-shaped-by-history-of-partition/

  23. Kevin says:

    Hello,

    I was reccomened to this site by Gallery Guy, who unfortunately has been hospitalized recently.

    I’d like to take this time tho that my father is Irish and Italian, while my mother has told me that I’m a descendant of Jacob, along with being Armenian and Russian. I’m not too sure as to how truthful my mother is about that, but, regardless, I’d like to commit myself to political activism. I have dabbled into many ideologies due my fury with life which has alienated me from so many people, which also includes them even making up falsehoods about me; however, I have always been huge opponent of insincereitg done for pure, selfish reason

    I’m also huge admirer of this site’s article on Jesus, as I have decided to refrain from procreation myself long ago.

  24. AS says:

    @AM

    “threaten Poles that accepting refugees would result in terrorist attacks”

    Our line of argument against this must NOT involve promising Poles that no terrorist attacks will occur after accepting refugees. Any such promise made can easily be discredited by the Mossad doing a few false flags blamed on the refugees, and therefore will only work against us. Instead, we should rather emphasize that the number of people killed from (false flag) terrorist attacks is miniscule compared to the number of refugees dying every day from easily preventable causes. Therefore accepting refugees still saves many more people overall.

    “only some of the Church’s representatives are trying to support the refugees. Bishop Pieronek recently rightly said that “Refusing accepting refugees is a practical way of resigning from being a Christian.””

    Well done Bishop Pieronek! See if you can contact him and get him to encourage his followers to organize paramilitarily.

    “The far right organizes many demonstrations against the accepting of refugees.”

    Once the Christian paramilitary is ready, you can physically attack these. It is crucial that the far-right is not allowed to get away with describing themselves as “Christian”, let alone with claiming that Islamophobic/anti-refugee policies “defend Christianity” as in propaganda videos like this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BjPy19bYs

    Therefore it is crucial that our side explicitly rallies under the banner of Christianity.

    I previously discussed this topic here:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/how-the-far-right-stole-christmas/

    I have not been able to get into any kind of Christmas mood this year. The far-right terrorist attacks on refugees and the wider right-wing rhetoric regarding the refugee crisis looms over all social atmosphere. In the self-proclaimed “Christian” countries that have shut their doors to refugees (which some rightists – starting with Viktor Orban – have had the gall to claim is a defence of “Christianity”!), all the Christmas decorations, music, etc. now visible on their streets are a sick lie, for they pretend to celebrate the birth of one whose teachings they do not even try to follow:

    “Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me. … Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these [my brothers], you did not do for me.” – Jesus

    “In the Metamorphoses he introduced Polyxena as a brave girl who chose to die rather than be a greek slave.”

    Yes, but this stuff happened after Achilles’ death. What I was pointing at is from earlier in the story: if Achilles is a villain, why would Polyxena be interested in him as a suitor? And if it was Priam forcing her to marry Achilles (and what would this say about Priam?), shouldn’t she have committed suicide at that point, rather than later?

    “But in my interpretation of the myth, Paris changed much after Hector’s death when he took on him the burden of being a defender of Troy. He fought bravely in many battles, he even managed to avenge Hector’s death by killing Achilles. Eventually, he was remembered by the Trojans not as a coward or the one who brought doom on Troy, but as a hero who fought in defend of his country and killed the biggest villain, Achilles. But it’s only my interpretation and it might be wrong.”

    I am glad that Paris killed Achilles. But if you are saying that Paris MATURED after Hector’s death, that is incompatible with Original Nobility. Whereas if you are saying that Paris REPENTED after Hector’s death (thereby reverting to an earlier state), which is the only way to stay consistent with Original Nobility, then you must explain why Paris didn’t dump Helen as part of his repentance. Also, how do you interpret Paris killing Corythus?

    “What about Priam, King of Troy?”

    See above. Either Polyxena herself wanted to marry Achilles, in which case she is disqualified, or she didn’t want to but Priam forced her to, in which case he is disqualified.

    @JJ

    “Perhaps demonstrating how both Germans and Poles became refugees at the hands of the Soviets can be used for anti-communist and (implicitly NS-sympathetic) pro-refugee propaganda.”

    This also ties in with my previous note that Polish refugees in WWII were welcomed by Iran etc. and even by MEXICO:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-face-of-identitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-143512

    These countries didn’t talk shit about how Polish refugees should stay in the “first safe country they reach” or else be classified as “invaders”. But this is the shit that Poland today says over and over again about refugees entering the EU.

    @Kevin

    Welcome!

    “I’d like to commit myself to political activism”

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  25. @AS

    “What I was pointing at is from earlier in the story: if Achilles is a villain, why would Polyxena be interested in him as a suitor?”

    If this interpretation is true then yes, I agree that it does not put Polyxena in a good light. But I also met another version of the this myth. According to some accounts, Polyxena pretended to love Achilles and therefore learned of his vulnerable heel:

    Another version is that Polyxena accompanied Priam and Andromache (Hector’s wife) when he met with Achilles to retrieve the body of his slain son. Achilles remained unmoved by the pleas of Priam and Andromache, but was swayed to relent his hard stand by Polyxena when she offered to remain with him as a slave. This account has Achilles smitten by her and proposing to betray the Greek cause if Polyxena was his; agreements are made for their union, and Achilles is ambushed and slain by Paris when he comes to finalize the arrangement.

    A twist to this version has Polyxena betraying Achilles, pretending to love him and getting him to reveal his vulnerable spot, his heel, to her; when he comes to finalize their wedding plans, he is ambushed by Paris and Deiphobus, Polyxena’s brothers, and slain. Hyginus, in his Fabulae supports this view. Connected to this story is a rendition that she commits suicide in remorse over what she had done.

    https://polyxenabook.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/variations-to-polyxenas-story/

    Thus in this version of myth Polyxena is a kind of Trojan agent who, in order to save her fatherland, musters up the great sacrifice and decides to has an affair with Achilles only to get to know the weak point of the most powerful Greek warrior. Ultimately, thanks to her information about the Achilles heel, Paris manages to avenge Hector. In this variation of myth, Polyxena does not have any real feelings towards Achilles (and in the bottom of her heart she probably hates him), but decides to a deception for military purposes. (There is an interesting qoute in this context: When the Prophet intended to go on an expedition, he would pretend to go somewhere else and he would say, “War is deception.”) This version of the myth also explain reasonably why the spirit of Achilles was so eager for Polyxena’s blood. The sacrifice of Polyxena intended to be a revenge of Achilles for deceiving him.

    The only thing that casts a negative light on Polyxena in this variation of myth is her regret and remorse she should not have had because contributing to Achilles’ death was without a doubt a proper attitude.

    “And if it was Priam forcing her to marry Achilles (and what would this say about Priam?), shouldn’t she have committed suicide at that point, rather than later?”

    Yes, but only if we accept the genuineness of the first version of the myth. In the second variation, Priam could have been privy to Polyxena’s plan to gain information on the vulnerability of Achilles and simply misled Achilles with the offer of marriage.

    “I am glad that Paris killed Achilles. But if you are saying that Paris MATURED after Hector’s death, that is incompatible with Original Nobility. Whereas if you are saying that Paris REPENTED after Hector’s death (thereby reverting to an earlier state), which is the only way to stay consistent with Original Nobility, then you must explain why Paris didn’t dump Helen as part of his repentance.”

    His deeds suggested that, at least to some degree, he repented. For example, for his earlier cowardice. But I cannot reasonably explain why didn’t dump Helen as part of his repentance. Maybe he was just a hypocrite? As I mentioned, Parys is an ambiguous figure, some of his deeds seems to be noble, others are worthy of condemnation.

    “Also, how do you interpret Paris killing Corythus?”

    I am not familiar with this part of myth, but I will gladly listen to your proposition.

    “See above. Either Polyxena herself wanted to marry Achilles, in which case she is disqualified, or she didn’t want to but Priam forced her to, in which case he is disqualified.”

    Or … Polyxena only pretended to love Achilles wanting to get to know his weaknesses and Priam was privy to her plan. In this context it is difficult to blame them.

    On another subject – I am also curious about your opinion about Aryan inspirations in medieval chivalric romances and possibility of use of them for Aryanism, especially in the context of Christianity and Islam. In my opinion, the whole beauty of the medieval chivalric romances is that there are no prejudices towards people of different origins, skin color or religion. In Arthurian legends we have, for example, Sir Palamedes, a Saracen, one of several (alongside Sir Safir and Sir Segwarides) King’s Arthur Muslim knights. He was depicted as a brave, loyal, honorable knight. In “Parsifal” we have a story about how Parsifal’s father, Gahmuret, married the black queen Belacane. In “Orlando furioso” we have the brave and noble African knight Ruggiero, a Muslim, who fell in love with the Christian female knight, Bradamante, whom he eventually married. Ok, we can argue that these Muslims in these stories eventually became Christians (both Palamedes and Ruggiero converted to Christianity) but it’s worth pointing out that the authors of romances praised them when they still were Mohammedans. The Saracens, although were often presented in these stories as enemies, it is worth emphasizing that the authors of these legends, writing from a Christian perspective, somehow had no problems with praising the virtues of knights of another ethnic origin or religion.

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