Our enemies concede that Judaism is rightist

https://www.amren.com/features/2018/09/anti-racism-the-trojan-horse-for-the-great-replacement/

Some people believe in a Jewish plot to orchestrate the great replacement and promote terrorism. It is worth remembering that cosmopolitanism, which is a Hellenic invention, has no roots in Judaism. It is certainly a fact that cosmopolitanism is now defended by some Jewish intellectual elites, but they are decadents who represent only themselves. They despise the community from which they come, and seem to have little sympathy for the Jews who fall under the blows of Muslims.

Cosmopolitanism runs counter to the sacred texts of Judaism. The civilizational manifestation of the Old Testament, the Talmud, or Kabbalah is not cosmopolitanism, let alone bourgeois materialism. It is the sovereign nation, homogeneous in terms of race, and aristocratic-warlike in terms of values. George Soros’s “open society” is an ideal that owes nothing to Judaism; it owes everything to the Gnostic heresy of Christianity and the cosmopolitanism of Diogenes the Cynic.

Thank you. We told you so. Ten years ago FFS.

(But seriously, GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY. They are finally acknowledging GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY, something that a decade ago most people weren’t even aware existed! This is how far we have come.)

Elsewhere, they also concede that anti-racism is what threatens Jews, and Gentile identitarianism is what protects Jews:

Anti-racism serves as a screen for anti-white racism and anti-Jewish racism

On this issue, there should naturally be an alliance between France and Israel; they have common challenges of terrorism and submersion by migration. Such an alliance is also an affront to the global superclass that barely conceals its anti-Zionism.

I never knew I was the “global superclass”, though….. I mean, you know, I thought I was just some random 2D video game fan…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luvw39ppu4c

Anyway:

In addition to closing the borders to mass immigration, there should be re-emigration of non-indigenous populations—on a military, not just economic, basis. France should stop its friendly—not to say complacent and suicidal—policy towards Arab-Muslim nations, and establish a military and economic partnership with Israel. Ideally, the fight for the re-emigration of Palestinian colonizers out of Israeli territory would go hand in hand with the fight for the re-emigration of African and Arab-Muslim colonizers from French territory.

So now we can at last stop debating our enemies over what the current conflict is about or which side of the conflict this or that historical ideology would have taken (because we are now in full agreement on all of this), and instead simply ask every potential participant in the conflict: which side are you on?

This entry was posted in Aryan Sanctuary. Bookmark the permalink.

49 Responses to Our enemies concede that Judaism is rightist

  1. Ivar Diederik says:

    “which side are you on?”

    There are multiple sides (at least six). This article is written by someone I had never heard of before although it’s clear he’s in the general category of “Alt-Lite” i.e. pro-Western, pro-Jewish and pro-Israel. Sadly, the majority of European “patriots” and political parties are like that, brainwashed as they are by decades of Holocaust indoctrination.

    I think it’s fair to say these are the main sides: 1) regular Antifa types, 2) Aryanists, 3) the Zionist Alt-Lite, 4) the anti-Zionist Alt-Right, 5) Neo-Nazi types, 6) Germanic National-Socialists.

    There may be some overlap between 4 and 5, but I’d say 4 are the more healthy, educated types without tattoos etc., while 5 are what could be described as “White trash”: overweight, stuck in the 1980s etc. Many of them are Christian or part of a music scene.

    The 6th category is not necessary limited to the Germanic people for it may include sympathetic Slavs etc. I simply added Germanic to stress that these people are much more informed about historic National-Socialism than the Neo-Nazi types are, and are interested in reviving actual European Paganism rather than merely getting runes tattooed in their necks for status and shock value. The people in category 6 want Europeans to preserve their light features, and as such there is overlap with categories 4 and 5, but in forums you often see them having friendships with Iranians and Indians. There is a strong interest in genetics (haplogroups etc.), history and the Indo-European languages. And although there is certainly encouragement to marry within one’s general ethnic group, in contrast to the Alt-Lite there is no disrespect for people of color, particularly towards those who have an interest in Indo-European traditions and/or an appreciation for National-Socialism and/or anti-Zionism and the Jewish Problem.

    Of all these categories, number 3 is most pro-Israel, and it’s a huge group because their websites typically have thousands of followers. Note that “Lite” is a bit of a misnomer, because many people in this category are as racist as the Neo-Nazi types. You’ll come across numerous calls for lynchings within the comment sections of these pages. Admittedly, they do not represent the Alt-Lite as a whole and the leaders typically condemn this (e.g. Tommy “I’m not a racist” Robinson), but the working class plebs like to talk tough.

    There are many liberal Jews within Antifa-related groups (including socialist/Labor parties), but they tend to be critical of the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. They are anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic.

    You guys, of group number 2, are a peculiar bunch, because you want to effectively conquer Europe and turn it into something it never was before: 100% vegan, Muslim, and a mix of all the racial groups in the world, creating a new race on the basis of facial characteristics and a willingness to embrace veganism. You support Palestinians in their struggle against the invasion of Jews, but don’t support Europeans in their struggle against the invasion that they are now experiencing. Because I’m European, this last aspect of your doctrine (not so clear from the main site but very clear from this blog) was a huge turn-off for me. I cannot possibly be on your side in this regard. You do not actually care about refugees and immigrants for their own sake but want to use them as tools to defeat Zionism (and “Whites”), sacrificing the happiness of Europeans (and Iranians, Americans etc.) in the process.

    After reading your website, I have consciously sided with group 6. These points of the original manifesto (and some others) are still relevant today:

    4) Only Germans may be citizens of Germany. Only those of the German races may be members of the nation. Their religion does not matter. No Jew [or Turk, Arab, Somalian, Moroccan etc.] may be a citizen.

    5) Non-citizens may live in Germany, but there will be special laws for foreigners living in Germany.

    6) Only citizens can vote for parliament and councils, or vote on laws. Everyone who works for the German government, a state government or even a small village must be a citizen of Germany. We will stop the practice of hiring people on the basis of the political party they are in [cronyism]. Instead, only those people who are most qualified should get the job [meritocracy].

    7) We think that the government’s first job is to make sure every citizen has a job and enough to eat. If the government cannot do this, people who are not citizens should be made to leave Germany.

    8) No one who is not of German ethnicity should be allowed to live in Germany. We want everyone who is not of the German race who started living in Germany after 2 August 1914 [2014!] to leave the country.

    24) We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. [Hence a gradual but very determined fading out of Islam, Judaism and Christianity within our borders.]

    “Cosmopolitanism runs counter to the sacred texts of Judaism.”

    That’s why we say the Jewish Problem is much broader than Judaism. It includes Communism, Zionism, Holocaustianity and the diaspora’s encouragement of multiculturalism and open borders. Judaism was tribal, and even diaspora Jews typically remain tribal even if they preach multiculturalism to the goyim in whose midst they live. This is the dual morality that is essential to modern Jewry: ethnocentrism for us but multiculturalism for everyone else. To this the Alt-Right and genuine National-Socialists respond: “Screw that. Ethnocentrism is natural and we will have ours again. If Turks can express their love of Turkish identity, and Blacks can express their love of being Black, so will we. If Muslims can call for an Islamic ethnostate, and vegans call for a vegan ethnostate, we will call for a European ethnostate. Not because Israel has one [your Boromir meme] but because ALL PEOPLE strive to have one and multiracial, multiethnic and multicultural societies have all FAILED. Doesn’t matter who introduced cosmopolitanism. It’s destructive. Suicidal. No more!”

  2. Sam says:

    @ Ivar Diederik. Islamic ethnostate? Really? There is no such thing as an Islamic ethnicity, so how can you from an Islamic ethnostate? Thanks for showing us how dumb you really are by not knowing the difference between religion and ethnicity.

  3. AS says:

    @ID

    “I simply added Germanic to stress that these people are much more informed about historic National-Socialism than the Neo-Nazi types are, and are interested in reviving actual European Paganism”

    At most they can be called Himmlerists, since the traitor Himmler was the one into reviving Germanic paganism, whereas Hitler ridiculed the notion.

    “you want to effectively conquer Europe and turn it into something it never was before: 100% vegan, Muslim, and a mix of all the racial groups in the world,”

    No, we do not want Jews/Turanians or Gentiles in that racial mix. If you mean ethnicities, we do not categorically demand every ethnicity, nor the same mix in each country. I personally would consider it most fitting (from the perspective of poetic justice) if each former colonial power hosts mostly people from its former colonies, so for example I would encourage a Pakistani emigrant to first consider Britain, France, Portugal, the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway, the six colonial powers which colonized India:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_India

    But ultimately I believe in respecting the choice of individuals to live in whichever country they wish, so if the same Pakistani emigrant for whatever reason prefers Sweden, that is OK too.

    “creating a new race on the basis of facial characteristics and a willingness to embrace veganism”

    Physical appearance is actually fairly low down in our priorities. But it is my estimation that as we successfully Aryanize for moral traits, it is likely that at least some physical traits will Aryanize synchronously without additional effort on our part, due to correlative effects. Overall neoteny will almost certainly increase.

    “don’t support Europeans in their struggle against the invasion that they are now experiencing”

    Oh please…..

    Even worse are the anti-immigrant propagandists who refer to immigration as “invasion” for the sake of crude alarmism, utterly disregarding the actual meaning of invasion. If State A invades State B, former taxpayers to State B will now be paying taxes to State A instead (ie. State B loses taxpayers; State A gains taxpayers). In contrast, if inhabitants of State A migrate to State B, these former taxpayers to State A who have migrated will now be paying taxes to State B instead (ie. State B gains taxpayers; State A loses taxpayers). Thus in fact immigration is the opposite of invasion.

    http://aryanism.net/politics/economics/immigration/

    “this last aspect of your doctrine (not so clear from the main site but very clear from this blog) was a huge turn-off for me”

    I am glad to hear this.

    “You do not actually care about refugees and immigrants for their own sake but want to use them as tools to defeat Zionism (and “Whites”),”

    We do care about refugees for their own sake. This is why we respect the choice of refugees who do not wish to migrate to a particular country, even ones where their demographic presence would assist anti-Zionism. We have never advocated that any refugees currently in Turkey BE FORCED TO migrate to EU countries. What we always say is that those who WISH to should always be allowed to.

    “sacrificing the happiness of Europeans (and Iranians, Americans etc.) in the process”

    I am happy to see voluntary migration, as are all fair-minded people. Those who are unhappy to see voluntary migration are jerks. But the bottom line is: if you are unhappy, you are welcome to leave any time you want. Just as we do not force refugees to stay in countries they wish to flee, neither do we force you to do so.

    “original manifesto”

    You are a worse liar than Trump.

    “4) Only Germans may be citizens of Germany. Only those of the German races may be members of the nation. Their religion does not matter. No Jew [or Turk, Arab, Somalian, Moroccan etc.] may be a citizen.”

    Nice insertion there. The part in bold was not present in the original.

    “24) We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. [Hence a gradual but very determined fading out of Islam, Judaism and Christianity within our borders.]”

    Nice omission there. The original stated:

    The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination.

    This is the opposite of your anti-Christian intent. (By the way, Islam is also a denomination of positive Christianity, since it holds up Jesus as someone to emulate, rather than (as in Judeo-Christianity) someone to passively rely on.)

    “genuine National-Socialists respond: “Screw that. Ethnocentrism is natural and we will have ours again.”

    No we do not respond like that. You might, but you are a neo-Nazi. When you say “Ethnocentrism is natural and we will have ours again.”, you imply that if you had been born to Jewish parents you would be a Zionist.

    “If Turks can express their love of Turkish identity,”

    LOL

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/OttomanEmpireMain.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

    Maybe this explains the following:

    https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/08/23/syrian-refugees-find-turkey-more-welcoming-than-western-europe

    His younger brothers have remained in Germany and are studying at university, but he wanted to work, and complains that “I could not do anything there.” Turkey, by contrast, has made it easy for him to operate. He was able to register a company and set up a café in Gaziantep, a city close to the Syrian border. He has now been invited to become a Turkish citizen.

    The Turkish government’s more informal approach means most Syrians there are not in ghettos, as they are in parts of Europe, nor in camps, as they are in Jordan and Lebanon. Only around 7% of those in Turkey are in camps; some 40,000 have been given Turkish citizenship.

    Freedom to work is the biggest benefit that Turkey offers. A tiny share of the refugee population—around 14,000, according to one estimate—has work permits, but almost all Syrians work informally, mostly in factories. According to the chairman of a garment-manufacturing company, Turkish shelves would be empty without Syrian workers. Mr Yalcin says Syrian workers are reintroducing some skills which were being lost in Turkey, such as copper-working and stone-carving.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syrian-refugees-in-turkey-to-exceed-5-million-in-2028-136121

    Turkey granted temporary protection status for a total of 3,545,293 Syrians and the number of Syrians living in refugee camps has decreased to 204,288, daily Hürriyet reported on figures from the immigration authority and ombudsman institution.

    Istanbul is the province hosting the highest number of Syrians with 564,189 refugees and ?anl?urfa follows with 470,000 Syrians. There are 391,000 in Gaziantep, 222,000 in Adana, 152,000 in Bursa, 130,000 in ?zmir and 130,000 in Kilis and 92,000 in Mardin. In these seven provinces, the number of Syrians has exceeded 10 percent of the total population.

    In Kilis, the number of Syrians equals 95 percent of the local population. In Hatay, this ratio is 28 percent, 23 percent in ?anl?urfa, 19 percent in Gaziantep, 10 percent in Adana, 11 percent in Mardin and Mersin.

    Under the framework of the migrant deal with the EU, European countries have received 15,046 Syrians from Turkey. Germany has received 5,538, the Netherlands have received 2,884, France has received 2,240 and Finland has received 1,030 Syrians. From 2014-2018, 14,314 Syrian refugees have settled in third countries. Canada has hosted 6,593 Syrians, the United States has received 3,902, and Norway has received 1,926.

    ^ PATHETIC

    “and Blacks can express their love of being Black”

    No one even thought of themselves as “black” until Western civilization introduced the term, just as no one thought of themselves as “Goy” until Judaism introduced the term.

    “If Muslims can call for an Islamic ethnostate, and vegans call for a vegan ethnostate, we will call for a European ethnostate.”

    So now Muslim is an ethnicity, and vegan is an ethnicity? The whole point of states such as these is that they are based on BEHAVIOUR!

    Having non-vegan parents does not mean someone cannot be vegan. In fact most vegans I know had non-vegan parents (and often – including in my case – indelible childhood memories of their parents’ cruelty towards animals). On the other hand, I also know people with vegan parents who became non-vegan. There are also siblings of the same parents, one of whom is vegan and another non-vegan. Moral traits may well be biologically heritable, but there is no guarantee which traits will be inherited by a given individual, which is why it is idiotic to prejudge people even by their direct ancestry for a specific trait. And prejudging people by crude ethnic background is even more idiotic than that!

  4. Ivar Diederik says:

    @Sam

    “There is no such thing as an Islamic ethnicity, so how can you from an Islamic ethnostate?”

    Ethnicity is not necessarily determined by race or genetics but can revolve around language, shared customs and many other things including religion. That’s why I used the word ethnostate and not racial state. Because Muslims share a common language, religion and general culture, it can indeed be said that a Caliphate is an ethnostate.

    Ethnicity can also involve diet (for example halal or kosher). Hence if vegans want to take their commitment to the ideology so far that they’ll deport or exterminate all non-vegans (in the name of “ahimsa”) within their domain, and only grant citizenship to vegan immigrants, such a state would be an ethnostate too.

    @AS

    “The part in bold was not present in the original.”

    Obviously. That’s what [square brackets] indicate.

    Jews were the main diaspora then (followed by the Roma). Now there are multiple other diasporas, who create very similar problems.

    “This is the opposite of your anti-Christian intent.”

    I know. I didn’t claim I support the entirety of that 1920 manifesto. But neither do you.

    The gradual fading out of Christianity is what the SS was striving for. Not that Christians and churches were attacked or even ridiculed in any way, but the youth was taught about the pre-Christian native traditions (as presented in ‘Die Gestaltung der Feste im Jahres und Lebenslauf in der SS-Familie’ published in 1940) i.e. Paganism. National-Socialist Germany was gradually moving away from Christianity, and if National-Socialism arises again in Europe, this process will unfold much faster, because Christianity has already faded away quite a bit, and Adolf Hitler’s final words on the matter aren’t favorable of the religion at all.

    “who refer to immigration as “invasion” for the sake of crude alarmism”

    No, not immigration. Specifically the violent entry of people climbing over fences, throwing rocks at police officers, throwing dangerous objects on roads so as to be able to climb into lorries, damaging those lorries, threatening the lorry drivers, upon registration lying about their country of origin, lying about their age, setting refugee camps and buildings on fire, rioting in the streets, threatening or carrying out atttacks with knives, violently raping women, and so on. NOT ALL IMMIGRANTS. But it has been going on with astonishing frequency since about 2013 and people in Europe have read news items about it every day. Whether it is actually an invasion in the military sense of the term is besides the point: it is EXPERIENCED as an invasion, because of the hostility, and it IS resulting in the loss of innocent lives among the native population.

    Another reason why it’s considered an invasion is that the first generations of immigrants (mostly from Turkey, Morocco and in the UK, Pakistan) have set up their own enclaves: the no-go zones. Whatever the causes may be, the Muslim community as a whole has come to be associated with crime and terrorism, and honor killings, acid attacks etc., just as the Jewish community in the previous century came to be associated with various types of subversion. So a NEW batch of immigrants is perceived as a continuation of that process.

    One HAS to use a different word than “immigration”, because the word immigration is too vague. Immigration isn’t necessarily a problem. Those who migrate to Europe because they love its culture, history and people, and want to learn the languages and customs, will not riot within the first weeks of entry.

    A significant number of these immigrants/invaders share your view of “poetic justice”. That is not a good basis for immigration. When the Romans let in the ~200,000 Goths fleeing from the Huns, they were soon served poetic justice too with disastrous results. Hostile “immigrants” are invaders. Allowing such “immigration” is suicidal.

    And I disagree with your notion of poetic justice. None of the current Europeans were colonialists or crusaders. The distant past should not determine the future that way, and nor should the actions of an elite (whether monarchs or banking families) result in “poetic justice” suffered by the ordinary people. When more than a hundred French teenagers were gunned down in the Bataclan concert hall, there was not a single politician or banker among them.

    We should look at the present (including the RECENT past) and see what’s working and what isn’t working. Such an analysis results in very similar conclusions to those drawn by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf. A multi-ethnic state like the Austro-Hungarian Empire does not work and neither does the EU. The presence of a Jiddish speaking and kosher slaughtering diaspora does not work and neither does the presence of Arab speaking and halal slaughtering Muslims. Jewish ghettos were a problem, and so are the no-go zones.

    I’m all for the temporary help of refugees, of whatever racial and national background, as long as they remain separated from the civilian population, so no thefts, rapes and other annoyances can occur. The number of refugees who get that help should be determined by the capacity for safe, effective and humane shelter. The big mistake the EU made, is that they let millions of people come over in a chaotic way, many of them housed in hotels, on camping grounds and so on. Had they set up massive high quality camps, and brought refugees there in coaches from the south of Europe straight to these camps, the European people wouldn’t have had any reason to complain. Pegida and similar groups would have remained small.

    Another mistake is that they (EU member states) are handing out settlement permits and citizenship to these people, and buying houses (even mansions) for them, resulting in additional anger among the European people.

    “Turkey”

    I was talking about the Turkish diaspora in Germany and the Netherlands, and particularly those who make an ostentatious display of their Turkish patriotism. Turkey is a huge country and ethnically Islamic, so taking care of Syrians there isn’t much of a problem to them. And notice too that they are ACTUAL Syrian refugees. In Europe, we get refugees from Pakistan all the way to Morocco, and also from Nigeria etc.

    “The whole point of states such as these is that they are based on BEHAVIOUR!”

    Shared behavior can be the basis of an ethnicity (from éth?, “I am accustomed”). Aryanism is an ethnicity too. You have a shared diet, ideology, view of history and even your own vocabulary.

  5. Ivar Diederik says:

    @AS

    “you are a neo-Nazi. When you say “Ethnocentrism is natural and we will have ours again.”, you imply that if you had been born to Jewish parents you would be a Zionist.”

    Zionism arose shortly after German nationalism, Italian nationalism and Czech nationalism etc. arose (~1848). Herzl published Der Judenstaat in 1896. This explains why the National-Socialists and the early Zionists had some common ground. In fact the term “Jewish Question” was used by the Zionists themselves. Had the later Zionists agreed to settle elsewhere, there wouldn’t have been anything wrong with the creation of a Jewish State, provided all Jews moved there. Herzl “preferred Argentina for its vast and sparsely populated territory and temperate climate.” The National-Socialist idea of Madagascar was another good option. Or the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in eastern Russia.

    And yes, if I had chosen to be born to Jewish parents then I would have been a Zionist. But I chose to be born in the Netherlands, and so I’m favorable to Germanic National-Socialism. You chose to be born in a hipster region of the United States (or in any case ended up there), and so you created Aryanism to suit your particular ethnic situation. That IS natural.

    “In contrast, if inhabitants of State A migrate to State B, these former taxpayers to State A who have migrated will now be paying taxes to State B instead”

    The cost of the immigrants (whether in the United States, Britain or Europe) is much higher than their contribution. Native tax payers are footing the bill.

    And there have been quite a few men who have bragged about being in Europe, and in a particular country, to deliberately parasitize off the welfare system. Understandable, I guess, but that makes them invaders.

  6. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    @ID:

    “ (e.g. Tommy “I’m not a racist” Robinson)”

    I think what you meant was, Tommy “I’m a Zionist” Robinson, aka Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, lol!

    Zionist = Racist
    Racist + Anti-Racist = Oxymoron

    Meet Tommy Robinson Proud Zionist:
    https://youtu.be/X6liK7-3DGk

  7. Sun of the Isles says:

    @ItIsWhatItIs

    Just noticed a comment in the video you linked. The creator of the comment apparently knows what’s going on:

    “I now realize that the English Defence League was a bullshit counterfeit nationalist movement designed to incite civil strife in English cities and turn us into a Northern Europe version of Syria. Even the name seeks to divide us – the ENGLISH Defence League – I thought we were the Brits.”

    Best comment of the month! This ought to be made a meme ASAP!

  8. anon says:

    @Ivar Diederik
    “This is the dual morality that is essential to modern Jewry: ethnocentrism for us but multiculturalism for everyone else.”
    Which would mean they’re making everybody else enemies of themselves and Israel.

  9. AS says:

    @ID

    “the youth was taught about the pre-Christian native traditions (as presented in ‘Die Gestaltung der Feste im Jahres und Lebenslauf in der SS-Familie’ published in 1940) i.e. Paganism.”

    “I’ve expressly and repeatedly forbidden this sort of thing! All that rubbish about the “Thing” places, the solstice festivals, the Midgard snake, and all the rest of the rubbish they dredge up from German prehistory!” – Adolf Hitler

    Just call yourself a Himmlerist and save us time.

    “people climbing over fences”

    If you build a cage around me and I try to escape from the cage, who is being violent?

    “throwing rocks at police officers”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-increases-stone-throwers-sentences/

    “Imagine bringing before a truly just judge the stone thrower as well as those responsible for him throwing the stones. Who would the judge put in jail? The one destroying (the stone thrower’s) home, expropriating lands, killing his brother, or the boy who threw a stone?” he asked during the heated discussion.

    “You are picking on the person who responded to the major injustices, such hypocrisy. Those who demolish homes receive medals, but the boy who’s anger is justified is imposed with punishments. There is no justice in this law,” Zahalka added.

    “throwing dangerous objects on roads so as to be able to climb into lorries”

    Would they do this if they didn’t have to worry about being spotted and deported? Deportation is the initial violence.

    “upon registration lying about their country of origin, lying about their age”

    Would they do this if there were no threat of deportation irrespective of their country of origin or age? Deportation is the initial violence.

    “setting refugee camps and buildings on fire, rioting in the streets, threatening or carrying out atttacks with knives, violently raping women, and so on. NOT ALL IMMIGRANTS. But it has been going on with astonishing frequency since about 2013 and people in Europe have read news items about it every day”

    Who controls the news media? That should give you a clue.

    “it is EXPERIENCED as an invasion, because of the hostility,”

    Natives can also be hostile to one another. If someone moves next door to you and is hostile to you, is it an invasion if that someone is an immigrant but not an invasion if that someone is a native?

    “it IS resulting in the loss of innocent lives among the native population”

    Treat immigrants who commit any crime the same as natives who commit the same crime. It is that simple.

    “One HAS to use a different word than “immigration”, because the word immigration is too vague.”

    “Refuge” works fine for me.

    “Another reason why it’s considered an invasion is that the first generations of immigrants (mostly from Turkey, Morocco and in the UK, Pakistan) have set up their own enclaves: the no-go zones.”

    Not tax-exempt zones.

    “A significant number of these immigrants/invaders share your view of “poetic justice”.”

    I know. That is why I like them.

    “Hostile “immigrants” are invaders.”

    They are only hostile to those who want to deport them (or worse). They tend to be exceedingly loyal to leftist parties and organizations which treat them as fellow citizens.

    “And I disagree with your notion of poetic justice.”

    Every former colonial power is still flying the same flag as it was when it was colonizing. If they had felt genuine remorse, the first thing they would have done was change the flag ASAP. In reality:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Netherlands#Flags_of_former_colonies_of_the_Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands

    “None of the current Europeans were colonialists or crusaders.”

    A few more decades from now, no living Jews will have participated in the founding of Israel. I will not take them seriously either when they then behave like you.

    (Besides, your claim is untrue. Plenty of colonialists are still alive.)

    Anyway, this point is covered on the main site:

    Of course, nobody born today should be blamed for colonial-era crimes. That is, except those who choose to perpetuate and self-identify with colonial-era concepts such as “whiteness”.

    http://aryanism.net/politics/white-nationalists/

    Let me tell you a story. Years ago, before the refugee crisis started, I was talking to Miecz and AM with considerable hopefulness about Poland, a country which never participated in colonialism. I said that what would best reveal how Poles self-identify is not how Poles reacted to “Third World” immigration to Poland, but rather how Poles reacted to “Third World” immigration to the former colonial powers. This is because there might exist some Poles who are against “Third World” immigration to Poland FOR THE SOLE REASON that they (for poetic justice) positively want as many “Third World” immigrants as possible in the former colonial powers instead, and any immigration to Poland would actually subtract from the total heading for the former colonial powers. Poles who thought this way should still be accepted as “non-white”, I argued. In fact we had come up with a working narrative of Polish nationalism that was all about emphasizing how different Poland historically was from the former colonial powers, and how much more Poland historically had in common with the former victims of colonialism.

    Then the refugee crisis came, and guess what? All we saw every day were Poles talking about how Poland would “rescue” the former colonial powers (which they called “our Western European brothers”) from the “Third World invasion”. So it’s not like we didn’t give Poles a chance to be “non-white”, but they have made their choice.

    “The distant past should not determine the future that way,”

    I’m sure Brett Kavanaugh would be happy to hear from you.

    “and nor should the actions of an elite (whether monarchs or banking families) result in “poetic justice” suffered by the ordinary people.”

    These ‘ordinary people’ should be free to move wherever they wish, as should the refugees (who are also ordinary people).

    “I’m all for the temporary help of refugees, of whatever racial and national background, as long as they remain separated from the civilian population, so no thefts, rapes and other annoyances can occur.”

    You are talking out of your anus. How are the refugees not themselves civilian? And do thefts, rapes and other annoyances not occur between refugees, or between non-refugees?

    “I was talking about the Turkish diaspora in Germany and the Netherlands, and particularly those who make an ostentatious display of their Turkish patriotism.”

    As I have explained before to some other moron, the pro-Turkish Germans are the ones aligned with the real Germany:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/tribute-to-lavin-eskandar/comment-page-2/#comment-174878

    “Shared behavior can be the basis of an ethnicity (from éth?, “I am accustomed”). Aryanism is an ethnicity too. You have a shared diet, ideology, view of history and even your own vocabulary.”

    No. For example, some ethical vegans suffer adverse health effects after switching to a vegan diet*. This reveals that they are not Aryan by blood. Aryans are ethical vegans who do not suffer adverse health effects from our diet.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/03/06/042549

    “Zionism arose shortly after German nationalism, Italian nationalism and Czech nationalism etc. arose (~1848).”

    Zionism did not originate with Theodor Herzl (Jew), but is as old as the Tanakh itself – “Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion” – and refers simply to the political expression of Judaism throughout history.

    http://aryanism.net/politics/anti-zionism-basics/

    This is Zionism:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah

    “The Jew offers the most striking contrast to the Aryan. There is probably no other people in the world who have so developed the instinct of self-preservation as the so-called ‘chosen’ people. The best proof of this statement is found in the simple fact that this race still exists.” – Adolf Hitler

    “yes, if I had chosen to be born to Jewish parents then I would have been a Zionist.”

    Thank you for admitting this. Whereas the people of Jewish ancestry that Hitler respected were those who hated their Jewishness due to how Jews have historically treated non-Jews.

    “But I chose to be born in the Netherlands, and so I’m favorable to Germanic National-Socialism.”

    You CHOSE where to be born?????

    Anyway, I like the fact that the Third Reich bombed the shit out of the Netherlands:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_bombing_of_Rotterdam

    (This is what Macron should be doing to Hungary (wth modern WMDs of course) instead of making empty threats that no one (including himself) takes seriously:

    http://www.europe1.fr/politique/macron-appelle-les-progressistes-a-mener-la-bataille-des-europeennes-de-2019-3760751

    but of course Macron is no Hitler. Heck, even BILL CLINTON is better than Macron at bombing rightists…..)

    “The cost of the immigrants (whether in the United States, Britain or Europe) is much higher than their contribution.”

    Where this is the case, governmental incompetence is to blame. The solution is putting the immigrants to work, not deporting them.

    “And there have been quite a few men who have bragged about being in Europe, and in a particular country, to deliberately parasitize off the welfare system. Understandable, I guess, but that makes them invaders.”

    Then you should also call native welfare recipients “invaders”.

  10. Robert Young says:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1987/11/12/bowie-agrees-to-aids-test/07eb99d5-394d-4428-bcde-ce783735c17f/?utm_term=.2e6e25238ec9

    Speaking of Brett Kavanaugh (an accused rapist), I noticed David Bowie and other rock stars are mentioned on the main page. Why promote such degenerate artists?

  11. Robert Young says:

    *and other accused rock stars

  12. AS says:

    @Robert

    I’m not sure what you mean. There is only one Bowie quote on the entire main site, one in which he, a counterculture leader, specifically of the New Romantic movement:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Romantic

    credits Hitler as the “one of the first rock stars”. This statement corroborates our thesis that the counterculture is the subconscious successor to National Socialism (itself inspired in turn by the original Romantic movement), at least in how both were rebellions against Western civilization.

    Other than this, Bowie is only used as a physical model due to his outstanding looks. I find it worrying that his Aryan physiognomy, characterized by gracility:

    https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2016/01/2016_DAVIDBOWIE_LIFEINPIX_1978_GettyImages-541053631_110116-2-920×610.jpg

    ectomorphy:

    https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftcms%3A81774952-47d0-11e8-8c77-ff51caedcde6?source=ig

    and low sexual dimorphism:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fc/84/5e/fc845e30714efa2d9525c2faf37aab7f.jpg

    which in more left-leaning times used to be aesthetically idealized:

    https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/david-bowie-station-to-station-thin-white-duke-3-8-1_26.jpg

    has been displaced over time by its archetypical opposite, a Gentile physiognomy characterized by robustness:

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1526020022627.png

    mesomorphy:

    https://redpilltalk.com/wiki/images/thumb/9/92/ChadThundercock.jpg/388px-ChadThundercock.jpg

    and high sexual dimorphism:

    https://i.imgur.com/MTyHMOG.jpg

    concurrent with the revival of rightist values:

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/370/936/a25.jpg

    We aim to change it back. The first thing we need is ONE STANDARD for both male and female beauty, as opposed to the traditionalist barbarism of double-standards depending on gender. However, there are two psychological obstacles to this:

    1) Homophobes do not want to adopt one standard for male and female beauty as they want to steer clear of non-gender-specific attraction.

    2) Eurocentrists do not want to adopt one standard for male and female beauty because this would destroy Eurocentrism in the realm of face/body aesthetics (Cro-Magnons have the highest sexual dimorphism among Gentiles, so Eurocentrists want superiority to continue to be associated with high sexual dimorphism in order for “whites” to continue to be popularly considered superior).

    Western civilization must die.

    Bonus music video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvLnPO9t4Wg

  13. Ivar Diederik says:

    That “quote” (“I’ve expressly and repeatedly forbidden this sort of thing!”) is from Memoirs of a Confidant, written in 1946 about things Otto Wagener remembers from over a decade earlier (1929-1933). Was he talking about National-Socialists or was he repeating his views as expressed in Mein Kampf, in regards to groups like the Thule Society?

    I did not write anything about believing in Norse mythology, the Midgard snake or worshiping Wotan, and neither does the book I mentioned. The book gives examples of traditional celebrations that allow the people to regularly get together, decorate their towns with flowers, branches and ribbons, bake certain foods, and have a good time.

    Any statements in which Hitler condemned the celebration of Yuletide? There are pictures of him attenting a Yule celebration, in 1941. The Yule tree (Pagan) was decorated with swastikas (Pagan).

    And are you suggesting Hitler was powerless to end the yearly celebration of the Summer Solstice? He could have made a powerful statement by refusing to attend the Summer Solstice celebration of 1938 and yet he attended.

    Celebrating such native European festivals does not require one to be a “Himmlerist”. Being obsessed with them might be. But simply celebrating them, so the women, the children and the men too can have a pleasant time, and perhaps have some philosophical thoughts as well? I don’t see what’s wrong with that.

    “If you build a cage around me and I try to escape from the cage, who is being violent?”

    That sounds pretty Libertarian/Voluntaryist. I’m pretty sure it’s one of Larken Rose’s mantras.

    The fences are in Greece, Bulgaria, Hungary and Spain. So no, there is no fence AROUND AFRICA. That argument is weak. And certainly not National-Socialist, because the National-Socialists protected their borders. They did not “build a cage around” everybody else. It was to protect the citizens. One of the responsibilities of the State.

    “Deportation is the initial violence.”

    These people aren’t being deported. They’re on their way to the UK and similar places.

    “Deportation is the initial violence.”

    Genuine refugees do not get deported from the EU. But there may be age requirements for certain extra benefits, like getting into the UK or not having to apply for work yet. But lying for such purposes is a crime, and so their arrival in Europe starts with crime.

    “Who controls the news media?”

    Media includes the internet i.e. blogs, vlogs, social media etc. No, the Jews do not have total control over what is reported about immigrant and refugee crimes. I was talking about media in the broadest sense, otherwise I would have used the term mainstream media, which is indeed overwhelmingly in the hands of Jews and therefore reluctant to publish anything negative about the immigrants, for taking care of refugees is “tikkun olam”, and it’s part of the post-Holocaust narrative that Western countries should welcome immigrants. “Remember the MS St. Louis, goyim.”

    “Natives can also be hostile to one another. If someone moves next door to you”

    More Larken Rose sophistry. A clear sign your position is indefensible. You think it’s fine that Palestinians rebel against the invasion of their land (I agree), but claim European countries should not have any fences and just let everyone move in unobstructed and develop their enclaves here. You’re a hypocrite.

    “Treat immigrants who commit any crime the same as natives who commit the same crime. It is that simple.”

    No it’s not that simple. You are talking about the punishing of crimes, not the prevention of crimes. We European National-Socialists want an end to the racially motivated rapes as well as the knife, acid and car attacks. And there’s only one thing that can accomplish that: National-Socialism. Certainly not Aryanism, which encourages these horrific crimes in the name of “poetic justice”.

    “I know. That is why I like them.”

    Then you are evil. Talk about Boromir Syndrome. You are akin to Israeli settlers encouraging the invasion of Palestian land, as “poetic justice” for the Arab-Israeli War of 1948, even though most of the current Palestinians weren’t even born at that time.

    “They are only hostile to those who want to deport them”

    No. If that was the case, there would not be random (but racially motivated) stabbings on the street. The hatred is towards Whites. Yes, Whites. As in: people who look White. Doesn’t matter what kind of job they have (deportation-related or not). If they look White, “poetic justice” (in the form of unprovoked violence) is considered justified. Sexual violence towards young girls is even better “poetic justice”, because it’s encouraged by the Hadiths and many imams. Evil. You are evil. Not noble at all.

    Poland, like Germany, didn’t participate much in colonianism because they never were a sea-faring people. All the colonialists had harbors along the North Sea. Because colonialism was mostly about trade. It wasn’t inherently evil, though I will admit that evil was done by several individuals and groups, either deliberately or inadvertently.

    “These ‘ordinary people’ should be free to move wherever they wish”

    That’s Libertarianism, Anarchism or Volutaryism, not National-Socialism. Under National-Socialism, Gypsies and Jews were deported. How is that absolute freedom of movement?

    “How are the refugees not themselves civilian?”

    They may be civilians but they’re not citizens. If refugees as a collective (for example the Syrian refugees of 2013-2017) significantly increase the number of casualties among the native citizens, something must be done to prevent that. Immigration from Africa and the Middle-East has been shown to be dangerous to the native Europeans (in part because of the principle of “poetic justice” / revenge), and so supervised camps and regulated transportation are necessary. That way the State can take care of actual refugees without the native population being harmed, censored or driven to violent revolution.

    “Aryans are ethical vegans who do not suffer adverse health effects from our diet.”

    That remains to be seen. You had a good start because your parents were non-vegan. The main danger of veganism lies in pregnancy and growing up. Almost all the famous vegetarians (Pythagoras etc.) were raised by non-vegans. Veganism is primarily an ideological choice (as the name indicates), not a health choice.

    “Whereas the people of Jewish ancestry that Hitler respected were those who hated their Jewishness due to how Jews have historically treated non-Jews.”

    All in all, I like what the Dutch have done. Not all of it, naturally, but they’ve been pretty much like the Germans: industrious, creative, scientific, philosophical, honest, outspoken, cultured, independent, and so on. Lots of good things developed around here.

    “I like the fact that the Third Reich bombed the shit out of the Netherlands”

    Childish comment. And evil. Have I said such a thing about the bombing of the Middle-East or African countries, or London for that matter? No. I wish no harm on any innocent people. Hitler never said such a thing either.

    Remarkable that people who see themselves as saintly (in your case “noble” because you’re a vegan) typically harbor a terrible Shadow.

    “The solution is putting the immigrants to work”

    Western countries are so industrialized and automated that there is very little work left for low IQ people (I know, you reject IQ, but it’s real and relevant for the job market), especially those with the additional handicap of not knowing the language and being of a radically different culture, and not very interested in embracing another one. There is no work for the millions of Somalians and Nigerians etc. Maybe there’s some work for a few thousand educated Syrians and Iraqis. But the overwhelming majority remain unemployed for years on end.

    Even the Europeans themselves will eventually have to reduce their underclasses through self-imposed eugenics.

    “Then you should also call native welfare recipients “invaders”.”

    The word parasite could be an appropriate term for such types. Lazy leeches. I have known such types and I do not respect them. There are also criminals, rapists etc. among the native population. But that is not an argument against borders.

    “You CHOSE where to be born?????”

    Yes, I desired to and was qualified. I’ve been in Europe for quite a while.

  14. AS says:

    @ID

    “The fences are in Greece, Bulgaria, Hungary and Spain. So no, there is no fence AROUND AFRICA.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/19/donald-trump-urged-spain-to-build-the-wall-across-the-sahara

    “the National-Socialists protected their borders.”

    Yes, by fighting against enemy STATES (e.g. Russia) which wanted to REDRAW the borders in their favour. This is exactly what we do, opposing everything from Israel constantly redrawing deeper and deeper into the West Bank to Putin taking over Crimea. In contast, individuals who merely CROSS borders (leaving the borders in place, duh!) do not threaten the borders.

    “These people aren’t being deported. They’re on their way to the UK and similar places.”

    And if they are caught they will be deported, which is why they have to go to such lengths (hiding in lorries etc.) to avoid being caught. Whereas if there were no one trying to catch them in the first place, they would just buy a train ticket etc. like anyone else.

    “there may be age requirements for certain extra benefits, like getting into the UK or not having to apply for work yet. But lying for such purposes is a crime, and so their arrival in Europe starts with crime.”

    No, the initial violence is the state SETTING such requirements. If you build a computerized cage around me that will only open if I am a certain age, I am perfectly justified in lying to the computer about my age in order to escape ASAP, because the cage was the initiated violence.

    “Media includes the internet i.e. blogs, vlogs, social media etc.”

    Yes, so you admit the Alt-Right blogs are to blame for the negativity towards refugees?

    “You think it’s fine that Palestinians rebel against the invasion of their land (I agree), but claim European countries should not have any fences and just let everyone move in unobstructed and develop their enclaves here.”

    And here we go again:

    Even worse are the anti-immigrant propagandists who refer to immigration as “invasion” for the sake of crude alarmism, utterly disregarding the actual meaning of invasion. If State A invades State B, former taxpayers to State B will now be paying taxes to State A instead (ie. State B loses taxpayers; State A gains taxpayers). In contrast, if inhabitants of State A migrate to State B, these former taxpayers to State A who have migrated will now be paying taxes to State B instead (ie. State B gains taxpayers; State A loses taxpayers). Thus in fact immigration is the opposite of invasion.

    http://aryanism.net/politics/economics/immigration/

    “You are talking about the punishing of crimes, not the prevention of crimes.”

    You are talking about presuming people are guilty instead of presuming they are innocent. (Unless they are “white”, of course, in which case they REMAIN innocent even after presuming “non-whites” are guilty and punishing them “pre-emptively”. Utter Talmudism.)

    “Then you are evil.”

    https://pics.me.me/colonial-mentality-not-invasion-invasion-non-please-good-old-colonialism-4763802.png

    “You are akin to Israeli settlers encouraging the invasion of Palestian land, as “poetic justice” for the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 even though most of the current Palestinians weren’t even born at that time.”

    Then why do I not?

    Everyone here knows (because I have said this so many times over the years) that if I were born to Israeli parents, I would not only emigrate from Israel ASAP (so as to avoid paying taxes to Israel), but would also voluntarily refrain from reproducing so as to terminate the Jewish bloodline that my parents forced me to carry.

    “No. If that was the case, there would not be random (but racially motivated) stabbings on the street. The hatred is towards Whites. Yes, Whites. As in: people who look White. Doesn’t matter what kind of job they have (deportation-related or not). If they look White, “poetic justice” (in the form of unprovoked violence) is considered justified.”

    Remember to post the news link when they stab George Galloway. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Theo van Gogh gets stabbed (and deserved it). Galloway does not get stabbed because he does not deserve it. By the way, the anti-Zionist hero who stabbed van Gogh also wanted to kill Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is not “white” in colour, but who is a Westerner in thinking, demonstrating that what matters is allegiance, not colour:

    The written note contained a warning to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, consisting of five pages which make mention of the Jewish political actors in Ali’s party, as well as other parties in Dutch politics. It contains repeated references to Jewish party-backers and party leaders.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Bouyeri#Assassination

    Meanwhile, Jo Cox gets stabbed by people like you.

    “Under National-Socialism, Gypsies and Jews were deported. How is that absolute freedom of movement?”

    Actually, they were put into concentration camps. And we never said anything about freedom of movement for tribalists. Tribalism is the initial violence, since it builds an IDENTITY CAGE by designating others as the out-group. It is retaliatory violence to put in a physical cage those who put others in an identity cage.

    “They may be civilians but they’re not citizens.”

    You are literally as despicable as the following subhuman:

    https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/24f70fdf52dc40c0a5f623b0e0245a4d-780×981.jpg

    Honestly, whose fault is it that they are not citizens? If they refuse citizenship even though they are offered it, it is their own fault. If they are not given citizenship despite wanting it, it is the fault of the state. Which of the above best describes the current situation of refugees?

    “If refugees as a collective (for example the Syrian refugees of 2013-2017) significantly increase the number of casualties among the native citizens, something must be done to prevent that.”

    Refugees are individuals. If an individual refugee creates an innocent casualty (whether native or non-native), punish that individual refugee as you would punish a individual native who did the same thing, and I will not complain a word. But the moment you punish even ONE OTHER individual refugee who had nothing to do with the incident, let alone punish all refugees COLLECTIVELY (and especially while you would not punish natives collectively for the same action perpetrated by an individual native), we will not rest until you are in hell.

    “That remains to be seen. You had a good start because your parents were non-vegan.”

    Did you even read the link? The strongest genetic adaptations to veganism occurred in the places where people were vegan for many generations continuously.

    “Veganism is primarily an ideological choice (as the name indicates), not a health choice.”

    This I agree with. I would never initiate violence for the sake of improving my health.

    “I like what the Dutch have done. Not all of it, naturally, but they’ve been pretty much like the Germans: industrious, creative, scientific, philosophical, honest, outspoken, cultured, independent, and so on. Lots of good things developed around here.”

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/DutchEmpire15.png

    I also know Jews who can’t stop boasting about Jewish talents, who are about as annoying as you are. They do not convince me to ignore how Jews have treated non-Jews either.

    “Childish comment.”

    Thank you very much for giving me the highest compliment possible:

    http://aryanism.net/philosophy/original-nobility/

    “Have I said such a thing about the bombing of the Middle-East or African countries, or London for that matter? No.”

    The Third Reich did bomb London also (do you know anything at all about WWII?):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

    for which I will be eternally grateful.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/The_British_Empire.png

    “I wish no harm on any innocent people.”

    Meanwhile just a few paragraphs above you were justifying presumption of guilt for refugees AS A COLLECTIVE.

    “Remarkable that people who see themselves as saintly (in your case “noble” because you’re a vegan) typically harbor a terrible Shadow.”

    What did you expect? I am not a Jain. I do not just avoid initiating violence myself. When I see others initiate violence, I feel fury and above all the urge to retaliate with violence. This is not “Shadow”, this is Lightning.

    “Western countries are so industrialized and automated that there is very little work left for low IQ people”

    This is the perfect opportunity to de-industrialize! Industrialization itself (just like every other aspect of Western civilization) should never have happened!

    I find it hard to believe that harvesting, for example, requires a particularly high IQ, advanced language skills or cultural competence.

    “Yes, I desired to and was qualified. I’ve been in Europe for quite a while.”

    Please elaborate.

  15. Philistine says:

    @Ivar Diederik

    You’re living in a fantasy. A lie. A 4Chan meme. A Zionist trick. The immigrants’ hatred for “whites” that you’re speaking of does not exist. It doesn’t even make sense from any perspective! Unless you have the self-awareness of a cabbage, why on earth would you target your hosts and their goodwill?

    I’ve lived all of my life in the suburbs of Lisbon. In most occasions of my life, I’ve been a minority among “black” people and other immigrants. In other words, your personal idea of Hell. The media in my own country would have you believe this place is as dangerous and deadly as Baghdad, because that’s what the media is for. They live out of people’s panic: “It is a newspapers duty to print the news and raise hell,” is how Wilbur Fisk Storey put it, and he pretty much invented the concept of sensationalized “news” for profit.
    Unfortunately for your echo chamber, I’ve never been stabbed. I’ve never been raped. I’ve never been robbed, except when a “white” kid tried to take my money for lunch in school.
    In fact, I’ve never even been discriminated against. My first contact with a Muslim guy was a big factor in my own conversion, because he used to call me “brother” even before I thought about converting.

    The bullshit you see in the media is just that. If you had two brain cells to rub together, you would easily see it is just a thematic emulation of the Israeli experience: they use the “knife and van attack” tropes because these are the real methods that the Palestinians use against the Zionists. Their goal is to have you thinking like an Israeli and to put yourself in their shoes, thus legitimizing Israel’s position.
    The “terrorists” who appear on the news are literal, walking caricatures with their cartoonish Salafi beards and what-not. If their backgrounds are revealed on the news, you’d notice they always have some form of contact with Saudi Arabia, which is a filthy Zionist hive.

    (A very important detail concerning Saudi Arabia, which may be of interest to Aryanists: Its central region, Najd, is the Saudi tribe’s birthplace. Most of it is desert wasteland, adequately populated by Turanians such as the Bedouins. Likewise, the Saudis were always seen as barbarians. By no surprise, their “philosophy” had to be equally barbaric (“Dirty hands don’t do clean deeds” – Ali). And indeed, they were the ones to make the Wahhabism that has inspired filth all over the globe. Muhammad himself was aware of this: “Ibn Umar reported the Prophet (upon whom be blessings and peace) as saying: “Oh God, bless us in our Syria; O God, bless us in our Yemen.” Those present said: “And in our Najd, O Messenger of God!” but he said, “O God, bless us in our Syria; O God, bless us in our Yemen.” Those present said, “And in our Najd, O Messenger of God!”. Ibn Umar said that he thought that he said on the third occasion: “Earthquakes and dissensions (fitna) are there, and there shall arise the horn of the devil.“” I thank MJasper for bringing this to my attention: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/fgtnrevo.htm)

    If you want good advice, leave /pol/ and get some contact with the real world. The suburbs breathe youth and revolt, they are among the last few places on earth where you can still experience some of the pre 9/11 atmosphere. Have I felt like a foreigner in my own country? Yes. But certainly not because of the immigrants. With Portugal I share nothing, but with the immigrants I share a collective resentment for a country that was born and developed out of destroying superior things. Portugal, having (for some reason I can’t quite understand) become the top trendy tourism destination in Europe, is now full of tall and pale people. Even more than a foreigner, these “white” people, with whom I am supposed to be connected to (according to you and other tribalists), make me feel like a tourist attraction.

    (Side note: if anybody comes for tourism in Portugal or Spain, do yourself a favor and experience what is left of Al-Andalus instead of the hideous Baroque disgraces ruining our landscapes. The Muslims used Swastikas in the decoration of the Mosque of Cordoba, for example: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TDdomXDKq7k/V5a0VdoCpRI/AAAAAAAADFE/WtMHNxDEvRI6v_9HTktqDXaFcRO74r_8gCLcB/s1600/Image-49.jpg, a practice which suddenly stopped after they were kicked out. That alone should say enough.)

  16. Ivar Diederik says:

    “Donald Trump urged Spain to ‘build the wall’ – across the Sahara”

    Irrelevant. Donald Trump doesn’t claim to be a National-Socialist and I certainly don’t perceive him as such. Moroever his idea has nothing to do with what I had mentioned about the fences that are already in place. This is a Red Herring.

    http://www.zollgrenzschutz.de/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zollgrenzschutz

    When Hitler rose to power, he did not abolish the Zollgrenzschuts. It was only reformed in 1937. At no point did National-Socialism open its borders to millions of immigrants from a radically different culture. In fact they were mostly trying to get previously welcomed refugees (the Ashkenazi Jews) from a radically different culture OUT.

    “As I have explained before to some other moron, the pro-Turkish Germans are the ones aligned with the real Germany:”

    I read your comment there. And it’s another example of your tendency to introduce Red Herrings. Rather than address the actual issue, you divert the discussion to some historical sidetrack and guilt by association (e.g. “Himmlerism”). In that case the Ottoman Empire and WW1, rather than the issue at hand, which was that despite of post-war Germany’s anti-racist atmosphere (which you even admitted in your story about how you turned anti-European AFTER 9/11), the Turks stuck to their own tribal identity, displaying the Turkish rather than the inclusive German flag. Same for the Turks in the Netherlands, Denmark etc. And I don’t really blame them; just saying that immigration from radically different cultures is a bad idea. It should never have happened.

    “Yes, by fighting against enemy STATES (e.g. Russia) which wanted to REDRAW the borders in their favour.”

    No, there were also border patrols alongside the Dutch border, in peacetime.

    Borders are absolutely necessary. They are akin to cell membranes, which are neither open nor closed but permeable. The cell, not the outside environment, determines what gets in. Nutrients get in, if there is a need, and toxins are kept out or pushed out. When this process gets corrupted, the cell dies.

    “In contrast, individuals who merely CROSS borders (leaving the borders in place, duh!) do not threaten the borders.”

    Red Herring and/or Straw Man. I did not say anything about threats to the borders but rather to the citizens inside those borders.

    “And if they are caught they will be deported”

    No, they will not. The only people who get deported from Europe are those who have been here for many years and, after a lengthy process, have been determined to be from a country where they can safely return. New arrivals are NEVER deported from Europe. They may not get to the country they desire (being housed in France rather than the UK, for example), but they WILL obtain a sufficiently safe haven for both themselves and their family.

    “No, the initial violence is the state SETTING such requirements.”

    You are suggesting all immigrants should have access to primary school, even the ones who are 25 or 30 years old? How many new school buildings should be created and teachers hired to facilitate all these new “children”?

    The requirements are practical: the state sets aside a certain amount of resources to take care of ACTUAL children, and other resources for the adults. But then these invaders come to exploit that system, ruining things for everyone.

    No, there is no violence there. States try their best to help as many people as they can, and that involves setting age limits for certain services. 25-years-old men have no NEED to lie. If they are honest, they’ll be treated well enough. At no point is their life in danger.

    “I am perfectly justified in lying”

    No. You are harming the children who actually need the help. You are overburdering the system with your selfishness. And because your lies are sooner or later exposed, you also generate hostility among the host population. The Jews have ample experience with that. Being a parasite grants only temporary benefits, and eventually gets your entire group in trouble.

    “Yes, so you admit the Alt-Right blogs are to blame for the negativity towards refugees?”

    Even without those blogs, there have been plenty of incidents that did make it into the mainstream news. People also have their personal encounters. All shopkeepers have had their experiences. Many children have had their experiences in or around the school, or at the swimming pool, or when walking through shopping streets.

    The Alt-Right and especially the Alt-Lite blogs are doing their part in warning people (alarmism as you would call it), but they wouldn’t have an audience nor anything to report if there were no incidents occuring all the time.

    The blame is on the EU, and on what you would call the False Left, as well as the diaspora Jews who encourage diversity because of the Holocaust, and of course the war-mongering Zionists (whether Israeli or WASP) for creating the actual refugee crisis (acknowledged by the Alt-Right but not by the Alt-Lite) through their ongoing wars in the Middle-East and its surroundings.

    “State B gains taxpayers”

    With 75% of these people being unemployable in the foreseeable future and the majority of the others not generating significant income, they are not taxpayers.

    Moreover, “invaders” pertains specifically to those who come into Europe violently and continue their violence and parasitism once they are in.

    The UN has stated that 7 out of 10 migrants crossing to Europe are not refugees.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/824794/migrant-crisis-refugee-Italy-Libya-UN-figures-Mediterranean-boat-crossing

    But naturally the military definition of “invader” does not apply here. The biological definition is a lot closer: “An invasive species can be any kind of living organism — an amphibian (like the cane toad), plant, insect, fish, fungus, bacteria, or even an organism’s seeds or eggs — that is not native to an ecosystem and causes harm.”

    Translated to the European situation, that would be “a collection of ethnic groups that is not native to the continent and causes harm.”

    “You are talking about presuming people are guilty instead of presuming they are innocent.”

    Nope. That’s silly. I’m not saying anyone is guilty and should be punished. I’m saying Europe should defend its outer borders with total effectiveness so that only actual refugees get through, and are immediately taken to specialized camps with trained personnel. Help the refugees without harming the native population.

    “Unless they are “white”, of course”

    If they have a valid reason to enter Europe, as far as we know they do not pose a significant risk. If at some point they do become a problem, everything I’m writing here should be applied to them. If, for example, Europe decides to grant refugee status to the South-African Boers, but then many of the sons of those Boers start making headlines again and again because of their horrible behavior, then ALL OF THE BOERS should be subjected to tougher immigration laws, just as ALL OF THE JEWS were subjected to incarceration and deportation in National-Socialist Germany.

    What I wrote about hostile diasporas applies to ALL hostile diasporas, regardless of the color of their skin. If Mount Etna starts erupting and we have to shelter Italians, but then a significant number of those Italians create another mafia, prostituting Dutch girls, then again I say: house ALL ITALIAN REFUGEES in guarded camps. And if there is not a signicant problem, let the refugees walk around as if they were tourists. For example, if some natural calamity happens and a certain number of Japanese have to be housed in Europe, let’s see how it goes. If they mostly behave well (likely) they can walk around freely. If too many of them become a nuisance, house them in camps.

    “colonial-mentality-not-invasion-invasion-non-please-good-”

    Ah, come on now, you know exactly which logical fallacy that is. You’re educated. Yup. That’s a False Dilemma right there. And also a Straw Man. And since you’re bringing in colonialism, it’s a Red Herring too. Wow, three logical fallacies in one joke.

    “Then why do I not?”

    But you do. :) You have applauded the creation of no-go zones. You think they are wonderful (theoretically, because you’ve never been in one).

    “that if I were born to Israeli parents”

    Such “if” scenarios are meaningless. You have created Aryanism precisely because of the ethnic situation you were born in. Nobody could have created it but you. “If” you were born as a Jew, then you would have been a Jew and the thought of creating Aryanism would never have occured to you. Likewise if you had chosen and been qualified to be born as a German, you wouldn’t be debating this way either. You might have started out as a typical liberal German, sure, but debating would have changed your mind. These debates will never change YOUR mind because you are not German and so will never think like a German. You have cherry-picked quotes from Rosenberg and other sources (with an overwhelming input of David Myatt) to create Aryanism.

    “Theo van Gogh gets stabbed (and deserved it).”

    Believe it or not, but I have stated publicly that Theo went too far with his offensive words (“goatfucker” etc.). I have publicly condemned the Draw Mohammed Cartoon Contests too. I do not approve of these things.

    But this is a tangent again, because I have never stated that I ever cared about Theo van Gogh or Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

    “Meanwhile, Jo Cox gets stabbed by people like you.”

    No. This is an example of Association Fallacy. Just because there may be some overlap between my position and that of the person who murdered a politician, does not mean I would do such a thing or even approve of it.

    “Actually, they were put into concentration camps.”

    Actually, during peacetime an effort was made to get Jews to move out (and had they not been so bloody rich and influential, that would have happened much faster than it actually did). And then although they were put in concentration camps, they were moved towards the east, with a view of eventually removing them from the Reich completely.

    “And we never said anything about freedom of movement for tribalists.”

    But I was talking about the Turkish tribe, and the Somalian tribe, and the Nigerian tribe. Even the Muslims from Iraq, Syria and Iran tend to stick to their own sub-groups. Hence in the Netherlands there are Turkish mosques, with a Turkish flag waving outside, and Moroccan mosques etc. Your theories sounds great, but we Europeans experience Islamic immigration directly. We don’t even need any Alt-Right or Alt-Lite blogs to observe that most Moroccans and Turks hate each other, and that police cars and ambulances have to pull up in front of local refugee centers because once again Syrians and Somalians etc. are attacking each other.

    Your conspiracy theory that it’s just the Alt-Right blogs who are the cause of all “racism” is utter nonsense.

    “Honestly, whose fault is it that they are not citizens?”

    Fault? That sounds like another Straw Man. I didn’t say anything about someone being at fault. Were the Fins and the Icelandic people “at fault” for not being German citizens in the Third Reich? No. They were simply citizens of another State, or in the terminology of the 25 point program of the NSDAP, from another race.

    “Refugees are individuals.”

    No, the plural (“refugees”) pertains to a collective. You’re talking about the singular, “a refugee”. In real life, you encounter individuals. When talking politics, you can’t avoid discussing collectives. That’s what the National-Socialists did. Full-blooded Jews were NOT treated as individuals but as part of a collective. Patience has its limits. The Germans tried to treat the Jews as individuals, but when that failed, a line was drawn (as to who is a Jew and who is a Mischling) and persecution commenced. We don’t want another bloodbath in Europe. That’s why we’ve pleaded with our politicians to please stop letting that many non-European immigrants in. This is a recipe for disaster.

    “If an individual refugee creates an innocent casualty (whether native or non-native), punish that individual refugee as you would punish a individual native who did the same thing, and I will not complain a word.”

    Straw Man. I do not suggest random immigrants should be punished. In fact I don’t care much about punishment at all. I’m interested in solving problems and preventing misery.

    “DutchEmpire15.png”

    The HORROR! Seriously, what’s the point of that picture? I can do the same:

    http://lukensocialstudies.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/8/2/24827890/513499037.jpg?493

    That’s a vast region. But…is that necessarily a bad thing? No. This is a map of Islam’s Golden Age. Lots of things flourished in that period. People loved it. Some didn’t. Some atrocities occured. That’s life.

    Here’s another picture.

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G2FGXG/nazi-germany-third-reich-at-its-greatest-extent-in-1942-map-of-europe-G2FGXG.jpg

    Clearly they were influential. And many people didn’t like it. But does that mean the Germans should be ashamed of themselves? No. The Germans were great people and National-Socialism was an excellent ideology.

    Your map of the Dutch empire is not a map of bloodshed and exploitation. It’s a map of, among other things, trading posts and farming communities. Within the depicted areas, hospitals, orphanages, roads and universities were built. It wasn’t all bad. And most importantly, the Dutch never had a doctrine of being God’s Chosen People, to be served by all nations. And had the Dutch been irrationally racist, they wouldn’t have brought over as many Indian gurus as they did (Maharishi, Krishnamurti, Vivekananda, Yogananda and Swami Prabhupada all spent lots of time here, each attracting thousands of followers).

    Not sure if I already mentioned this but in primary school my best friend was half-Indonesian, my favorite teacher was Indonesian, and I had a crush on a Thai girl. I became a very enthusiastic fan of Michael Jackson. In high school I had a two year crush on a half-Caribbean girl, at age 15 started reading Krishnamurti, and at age 18 (in 1993) joined a Hindu ashram, where I stayed for 5 years, and had friends from all over the world. Much more recently, between 2012 and 2015, I listened to all of the recorded discourses by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho). All of these people were non-White, and I have loved them deeply. Me a neo-nazi? I laugh at the childish insult.

    “I also know Jews who can’t stop boasting about Jewish talents”

    Except I wasn’t merely listing talents: “industrious, honest, cultured.” Had you actually paid attention rather than immediately typing your standard “I don’t take them seriously either” reply, you would have noticed. But you’re not really listening. You’re simply looking for things to reply to. Your mind is on auto-pilot, programmed by your doctrine, your selective quotes and your standard “funny” replies.

    “Thank you very much for giving me the highest compliment possible”

    Hilarious, eh? Except childish and childlike are not the same. Children may be cute and lovable in some ways, but they can also be irrationally stubborn and peevish, spouting ridiculous insults. That is what “childish” means.

    “The Third Reich did bomb London also”

    That is exactly what I was referring to. The Germans bombed London, but never gloated about it. The Germans tried to prevent it, and when all appeals to reason failed, they carried out the bombing for practical reasons, not because they enjoyed it. They also occupied the Netherlands for practical (strategic) reasons, not because Hitler wanted to punish them for colonialism.

    “for which I will be eternally grateful.”

    That’s because you’re not German or European in any sense of the word.

    “Meanwhile just a few paragraphs above you were justifying presumption of guilt for refugees AS A COLLECTIVE.”

    Quote me please.

    “this is Lightning”

    Nope. You are gloating about the bombing of INDIVIDUALS in Rotterdam and London (mostly working class civilians like dock workers) because of what the COLLECTIVE of 18th and 19th century Dutch and British had done (factually a couple of hundred upper class individuals within that collective).

    You are projecting a narrative of “guilt for refugees AS A COLLECTIVE” on me because that is your kind of thinking. I don’t have that Shadow. I’m not vengeful. I’m for solving problems.

    “This is the perfect opportunity to de-industrialize! Industrialization itself should never have happened!”

    I agree. But it did, and under the current circumstances, this is the situation in Europe. I’m all for de-industrialization and some of the other things you have suggested (reducing the number of people on this planet to within the carrying capacity of solar energy etc.). But those things are not going to be implemented anytime soon. It’s a discussion separate from the way the refugee crisis is currently handled.

    “Please elaborate.”

    This reply has already become quite lengthy and it’s not something I want to discuss with someone who is hostile towards me. I might elaborate in a separate reply though.

  17. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    @Ivar

    A bit off topic, but out of curiosity, what are you going to do to make ‘ethnic’ Germans want to reproduce again?

    “Not even a million migrants will reverse Germany’s looming demographic decline. Germany has registered its biggest population jump in more than 20 years. The overall population rose by 978,000 in 2015, a 1.2% increase. The total now stands at 82.2 million.”

    “It’s been no secret that Germany, which has a reputation as the economic engine of Europe, is in a troubling demographic predicament. With one of the oldest populations in Europe, and a low fertility rate of just 1.5 births per woman, it is only a matter of time before the rubber hits the road to affect growth in the country.”
    http://www.visualcapitalist.com/germany-scary-demographic-milestone/

    Are you going to try and force ‘ethnic’ Germans to reproduce somehow?

  18. AS says:

    @ID

    “When Hitler rose to power, he did not abolish the Zollgrenzschuts.”

    Nor would I if I had been in power. A dutiful state needs to know how many people are entering and leaving the country every day, and on what business. That is the proper function of border personnel: to document this information and forward it promptly to relevant departments. All the problems arise when border personnel degrade into a force to violently stop people from entering/leaving, which results in people entering/leaving by stealth, thus ending up undocumented, which then deprives the state of the vital information necessary to attend to them efficiently.

    The duty of states is to welcome refugees, while the corresponding duty of refugees is to let states know of their presence immediately upon arrival. A state which derelicts its duty first cannot then blame refugees for derelicting their corresponding duty, but instead should correct the problem by recovering its own duty ASAP in order to regain the trust of refugees ASAP. When refugees see that there is once again no danger but only convenience to announcing their presence, they will go back to doing so.

    “At no point did National-Socialism open its borders to millions of immigrants from a radically different culture.”

    Stop lying.

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/anti-zionist-harvest-2018-contd/comment-page-1/#comment-178569

    “post-war Germany’s anti-racist atmosphere”

    Stop lying.

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/schmidt.jpg

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/kohl.jpg

    “the Turks stuck to their own tribal identity, displaying the Turkish rather than the inclusive German flag”

    The Turkish flag represents fellowship with the true Germany. The post-WWII German flag represents surrender to Zionism.

    “No, they will not. The only people who get deported from Europe are those who have been here for many years and, after a lengthy process, have been determined to be from a country where they can safely return. New arrivals are NEVER deported from Europe. They may not get to the country they desire (being housed in France rather than the UK, for example), but they WILL obtain a sufficiently safe haven for both themselves and their family.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-hungary-border-police-guards-fence-beating-asylum-seekers-migrants-serbia-push-back-a7610411.html

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/refugees-beaten-abused-macedonia-150921175049518.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/15/refugees-crossing-from-bosnia-beaten-and-robbed-by-croatian-police

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugees-calais-northern-france-police-brutality-daily-basis-unaccompanied-minors-children-a7696076.html

    “You are suggesting all immigrants should have access to primary school, even the ones who are 25 or 30 years old? How many new school buildings should be created and teachers hired to facilitate all these new “children”?”

    I never said that. I was referring to states which discriminate by age in accepting refugees at all.

    “No. You are harming the children who actually need the help. You are overburdering the system with your selfishness.”

    Quite the contrary. Our position is that refugees work and pay taxes, so working refugees could be economically supporting the children. It is by preventing refugees capable of working from entering (or prohibiting them from working) that the state increases the burden. This is common sense.

    “The Alt-Right and especially the Alt-Lite blogs are doing their part in warning people (alarmism as you would call it), they wouldn’t have an audience nor anything to report if there were no incidents occuring all the time”

    There are also plenty of incidents not involving refugees that occur constantly, but the Alt-Right blogs ignore these. Why do they not warn people about these? (We all know why not.)

    “With 75% of these people being unemployable in the foreseeable future and the majority of the others not generating significant income, they are not taxpayers.”

    Virtually no one is “unemployable” unless they are paralyzed or comatose. Require the rest to work for food and you will see how fast they line up for employment. Even disabled people can be assigned useful work.

    “The UN has stated that 7 out of 10 migrants crossing to Europe are not refugees.”

    The UN has also stated that Israel is a peace-loving state:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_273

    “Translated to the European situation, that would be “a collection of ethnic groups that is not native to the continent and causes harm.””

    Harm to whom? To the rightist parties, yes. To the leftist parties, no. This is why your cell analogy breaks down:

    “Borders are absolutely necessary. They are akin to cell membranes, which are neither open nor closed but permeable. The cell, not the outside environment, determines what gets in. Nutrients get in, if there is a need, and toxins are kept out or pushed out. When this process gets corrupted, the cell dies.”

    The cell itself is in internal conflict. The left side of the cell is trying to open the membrane to take in needed nutrients (refugees), and the right side of the cell is trying to close the membrane to keep away toxins (refugees). The very same thing that is nutritious to leftists is toxic to rightists. Rightists do not get to speak for the entire cell.

    “I’m not saying anyone is guilty and should be punished. I’m saying Europe should defend its outer borders with total effectiveness so that only actual refugees get through,”

    So you ARE saying that refugees are presumed guilty and should be punished for it (by whatever violence it takes to stop them from getting through).

    This is a standard you do not apply to natives, or else you would throw every native outside of the border and then demand they re-apply to enter, with the only ones getting through being the only ones who cannot survive anywhere else.

    Thus you have one standard for natives and another for non-natives.

    “If Mount Etna starts erupting and we have to shelter Italians, but then a significant number of those Italians create another mafia, prostituting Dutch girls, then again I say: house ALL ITALIAN REFUGEES in guarded camps.”

    This is precisely what I am complaining about. This is collective punishment based on presumption of guilt. And what if it is a native Dutch mafia? Do you put all native Dutch into guarded camps? If not, there is your double-standard.

    “You have applauded the creation of no-go zones.”

    Are you pretending not to see the difference between territory occupied by a tribe that attempts to exclude non-tribe-members and territory occupied by a folk that attempts to exclude tribalists? In BOTH CASES it is the tribalists choosing to be a tribe first.

    ““If” you were born as a Jew, then you would have been a Jew”

    Jesus proved you wrong. Benjamin Freedman proved you wrong. Bobby Fischer proved you wrong.

    “But I was talking about the Turkish tribe, and the Somalian tribe, and the Nigerian tribe.”

    A Turkish tribe or a Somalian tribe would wish to de-Islamize Turks/Somalis. Does this description resemble the particular Turks/Somalis you encountered? If so, go ahead and put those particular Turks/Somalis in concentration camps. But they would not be most Turks or Somalians.

    A Nigerian tribe would wish to de-Islamize and de-Christianize Nigerians (or else promote “Nigerian Israelism” which claims Nigerians are the real Israelites from the Tanakh). Does this description resemble the particular Nigerians you encountered? If so, go ahead and put those particular Nigerians in concentration camps. But they would not be most Nigerians.

    “When talking politics, you can’t avoid discussing collectives.”

    Which is why we should discuss collectives based on allegiance, thereby achieving a way to discuss collectives without de-individualizing individuals.

    “The Germans tried to treat the Jews as individuals, but when that failed, a line was drawn”

    “Jew” is a declaration of allegiance, a choice made by individuals. It is the fault of those who self-identify as Jews.

    “We don’t want another bloodbath in Europe. That’s why we’ve pleaded with our politicians to please stop letting that many non-European immigrants in.”

    Now you sound like the domestic violence guy: “I keep my wife permanently caged in the basement because I don’t want her to provoke me into battering her.” YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, FUCKTARD.

    “I do not suggest random immigrants should be punished. In fact I don’t care much about punishment at all.”

    Caging is punishment.

    “I can do the same:”

    INTEGRATIONIST empires, not colonial empire. NOT the same.

    WNs often retort that non-Western states have also practiced colonialism in the past. This is a lie. States throughout history have practiced imperialism (ie. expansion of territorial domain), but not colonialism. The ancient empires (including Rome) integrated conquered peoples as citizens. The Western colonial empires, in contrast, were historically unique in their practice of segregating conquered peoples as “non-whites”, and thus subjects but not citizens – Goys in effect. … Had but any of the post-Renaissance empires been willing to follow the Roman model instead of the Western model, they would surely have escaped condemnation. As they did not, it is perfectly justified for us to condemn them while sparing Rome and other integrationist empires

    http://aryanism.net/politics/white-nationalists/

    “Your map of the Dutch empire is not a map of bloodshed and exploitation.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Slave_Coast

    LOL

    “the Dutch never had a doctrine of being God’s Chosen People, to be served by all nations”

    Not “all”, just the “non-white” ones. When the Dutch defeated “non-whites” in war, it colonized them. When the Dutch defeated other “whites” in war, it did not colonize them (though they often seized their (also “non-white”) colonial possessions). This is the in-group/out-group double-standard at work: other “whites” – even war adversaries – are merely rival predators, whereas “non-whites” are straightforward prey.

    This is explicit in Dutch policy:

    The Dutch East Indies had two legal classes of citizens; European and indigenous. A third class, Foreign Easterners, was added in 1920.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_Indies#Social_history

    In other words, not only are the Dutch on top of the indigenous, but also some foreigners are more equal than others: a “white” foreigner joins the same class as the Dutch themselves, while a “non-white” foreigner does not.

    “Not sure if I already mentioned this but in primary school my best friend was half-Indonesian, my favorite teacher was Indonesian, and I had a crush on a Thai girl. I became a very enthusiastic fan of Michael Jackson. In high school I had a two year crush on a half-Caribbean girl, at age 15 started reading Krishnamurti, and at age 18 (in 1993) joined a Hindu ashram, where I stayed for 5 years, and had friends from all over the world. Much more recently, between 2012 and 2015, I listened to all of the recorded discourses by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho). All of these people were non-White, and I have loved them deeply. Me a neo-nazi? I laugh at the childish insult.”

    Jew: “in primary school my best friend was half-Indonesian, my favorite teacher was Indonesian, and I had a crush on a Thai girl. I became a very enthusiastic fan of Michael Jackson. In high school I had a two year crush on a half-Caribbean girl, at age 15 started reading Krishnamurti, and at age 18 (in 1993) joined a Hindu ashram, where I stayed for 5 years, and had friends from all over the world. Much more recently, between 2012 and 2015, I listened to all of the recorded discourses by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho). All of these people were non-Jewish, and I have loved them deeply. Me a Zionist? I laugh at the childish insult.”

    Should I take this Jew (same guy who just finished boasting about Jewish accomplishments throughout history) seriously? Of course not.

    (Real non-racists NEVER boast about out-group friends, because we do not have an out-group, and we see all friends as individuals. Every time someone boasts about having a friend of a particular nationality/ethnicity/etc., all they are telling me is that they do not consider that nationality/ethnicity/etc. to be part of their in-group.)

    “childish and childlike are not the same. Children may be cute and lovable in some ways, but they can also be irrationally stubborn and peevish, spouting ridiculous insults.”

    This attitude is exactly what I would expect from someone who has no respect (and instead only patronizing paternalism) towards children. Did you consider yourself cute when you were a child? Yet you as an adult consider children cute. This is proof of your adulteration. Until you not only remember how you saw yourself when you were a child but also realize that that is the more accurate picture, you cannot even hope to understand Original Nobility. But to those who do understand, childish and childlike mean exactly the same thing. How could they not?

    “Quote me please.”

    If refugees as a collective (for example the Syrian refugees of 2013-2017) significantly increase the number of casualties among the native citizens

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/our-enemies-concede-that-judaism-is-rightist/comment-page-1/#comment-180003

    This lumps refugees who had nothing to do with any of the casualties together with those who caused casualties.

    “You are gloating about the bombing of INDIVIDUALS in Rotterdam and London (mostly working class civilians like dock workers) because of what the COLLECTIVE of 18th and 19th century Dutch and British had done (factually a couple of hundred upper class individuals within that collective).”

    If they were dock workers, they were taxpayers. If they were taxpayers to a colonial power, they were colonialists. (Similarly, there is no such thing as an “Israeli civilian”.)

    “those things are not going to be implemented anytime soon.”

    Not by you, at least. This is why demographic shift is likely to help.

  19. Ivar Diederik says:

    “Did you even read the link?”

    No. But I did now. It’s about a single adaptation, not “adaptations” (plural), and in regards to arachidonic acid rather than vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin B12, iron, L-lysine, L-carnitine, taurine, EPA or DHA. I’m not surprised that such an adaptation is possible. But arachidonic acid has never been a concern of mine in regards to veganism. Arachidonic acid is not an essential fatty acid because our bodies can produce it from linoleic acid (LA), which is amply provided by nuts, seeds and vegetable oils.

    “anti-zionist-harvest-2018-”

    That comment mentions an Austrian immigrant (Hitler) and Polish immigrants, none of whom are from a radically different culture. It would be a False Equivalence to compare immigrants from Austria and Poland (both bordering Germany) to immigrants from Islamic and African countries thousands of miles away.

    Those quotes from Kohl and Schmidt do not denote racism either but a realistic appraisal of Turkish immigration up to that point. The Schmidt quote is from 2004!

    Kohl’s quote is from 1982, which is 21 years after the first Turks migrated to Germany, and 9 years after those Turkish men started bringing their wives and children over. Moreover, there is no indication that the statement was based on racism but could have been based on nothing but economic considerations. What I said is not a lie: after WW2 racism became taboo in Germany.

    “Most women interviewed said they had not been targeted, but had witnessed attacks on men in their groups”

    Could it be that while the women followed the rules, those men tried to get through unlawfully? In all the four news items you posted, the men were breaking local laws. If I break the law in an Islamic country, I’ll be ruthlessly punished too.

    “There are also plenty of incidents not involving refugees that occur constantly”

    We know what life in Europe was like prior to recent mass immigration, and the older folks know what life was like prior to the first wave of Muslim immigrants in the 1970s. We can see where this is heading.

    “Harm to whom?”

    To children, women, the elderly and even unsuspecting boys and young men. Particularly those who are of White appearance, because they are more likely to be targeted for grooming, “random” knife attacks, provocations, and so on.

    “To the rightist parties, yes.”

    Rather the opposite: mass immigration has stimulated support for rightist parties.

    “nutrients (refugees)”

    Funny. No, it cannot be assumed that all immigrants are nutrients. The cell membrane (border personnel) would have to interview each one of them to determine if they are a benefit to the cell or a liability.

    But sheltering refugees isn’t something that should necessarily benefit the “cell”. As long as it doesn’t harm the cell/nation, that’s fine. It’s to help people in need, not to benefit oneself.

    “The UN has also stated that Israel is a peace-loving state:”

    Red Herring.

    “Bobby Fischer proved you wrong.”

    Bobby wasn’t raised Jewish and wasn’t even circumcised. And of course it’s possible for people born in Jewish families to become anti-Zionist (there are many examples). I didn’t claim that’s impossible. The sentence you quoted ends with “then you would have been a Jew and the thought of creating Aryanism would never have occured to you.” Neither Friedman nor Fischer created Aryanism so I’m right after all.

    “The same thing that is nutritious to leftists”

    Lots of leftists have been harmed too. In fact they are much more likely to get harmed than the rightists who keep the immigrants at a safe distance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alexandra_Mezher

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ladenburger

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/610376/woman-gang-raped-refugee-camp-activists-Italy-border-France-Ventimiglia

    Et cetera.

    “This is a standard you do not apply to natives”

    It could apply to natives too if there was a signficant problem within a certain demographic. In fact that’s what prisons are for. And eugenics would certainly be applied to certain types of White natives. Not to punish them but to improve the overall quality of the race.

    “Caging is punishment.”

    Not necessarily. Small cages may be used that way. But when they are sufficiently large, and the caging is temporary, it need not be a mode of punishment, nor experienced by the caged that way. Dogs and cats rescued during a flood are often put in temporary cages, for their own benefit.

    And the primary concern of refugees is shelter, not comfort, luxury or absolute freedom of movement.

    “two legal classes of citizens; European and indigenous”

    Likewise the Islamic empires had their different classes. You were “free” to not accept the Islamic doctrine (and choose another universalist doctrine instead), but that would put you in a disadvantaged class. Moreover, Muslims enslaved many people from below the Sahara and also went on raiding missions to enslave European boys and girls. And they generally didn’t tolerate polytheism either, so Hindus had many of their sacred sites destroyed and priests murdered. More blood has been shed in the expansion of the Islamic empires than in the expansion of the Dutch Empire.

    The Roman Empire maintained various classes too and practiced slavery. When the Carthaginians didn’t do as the Romans pleased, they waged war on them. When the Gauls didn’t do as the Romans pleased, Caesar waged war on them. He ended up killing a million of them and enslaving another million. Did the Dutch kill a million and enslave a million? No. The Dutch committed a massacre in 1947 (!), leading to the death of 431 Indonesians. In 1740 there was a massacre too, resulting in the death of about 10,000 ethnic Chinese. That’s tragic, but nowhere close to the number of deaths following Roman or Islamic expansion.

    “This lumps refugees who had nothing to do with any of the casualties together with those who caused casualties.”

    Yes, but you said I supported punishment. I didn’t, which is why you can’t quote me on that.

    “Real non-racists NEVER boast about out-group friends”

    I wasn’t boasting there. Simply relating that for the first 40 years of my life, skin color and nationality were of no concern to me. If I was genetically inclined towards racism, I would have manifested that Gentile inclination much sooner. But I’m not by nature nor by nurture a racist. I’ve been targeted by racists though, and seen other Whites targeted for their appearance too, which has resulted in my stance towards immigration from Islamic and African countries. There’s too much hostility towards people who look like me.

    “This is why demographic shift is likely to help.”

    Because Turkey, Morocco, Algeria, Somalia and Pakistan are at the forefront of environmentalism? Is it a conspiracy that 90% of the Wikipedia page on environmentalism lists European people and organizations? Even in regards to veganism, Africa and the Middle-East score extremely low compared to the Europeans.

    “demographic shift”

    White genocide. :) “Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious or national group.”

  20. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    @ID:

    “Because Turkey, Morocco, Algeria, Somalia and Pakistan are at the forefront of environmentalism? Is it a conspiracy that 90% of the Wikipedia page on environmentalism lists European people and organizations? Even in regards to veganism, Africa and the Middle-East score extremely low compared to the Europeans.”

    Is it a conspiracy that in the global Judeo-Capitalist system that 80% of the rest of the world outside of the West lives on less than $10.00 a day?

    How could any of those countries in the regions you listed be at the forefront of anything when Jews and other gentiles keep trying to bankrupt them?

    “One hand giveth and the other taketh away”, right?

    Just one of many examples: Idi Amin Dada Jews Control America & Europa & Almost Bankrupt Uganda: https://youtu.be/doFuqb_fHbA

    I mean, what do you really think Western Colonialism was really about? You do know Columbus was probably a Jew right?

    Do you really believe the modern West would be as “successful” as it is in the global Judeo-Capitalist system if it had not plundered the rest of the non-Western world?

    Do you really believe “stealing” and “ trickery” makes someone superior to their victims?

  21. Fatih Dion says:

    @ID

    “White genocide”

    I want it, so the center of Jewish power (White Europeans) will be destroyed, and people like you will be disappear forever

    And your view on Dutch colonialism is false, I’m Indonesian, and we suffered enough under the Dutch tyranny for more than 300 years (including VOC conquest, theft, and exploitation), better during Japan liberation of South East Asia from the “White European Epidemic Parasite”, they gave us chance to prepare for independence

    You suck and sickening and I hope you will end up in concentration camp with the untermenschen Juden when we gain power in the future

  22. AS says:

    @ID

    “That comment mentions an Austrian immigrant (Hitler) and Polish immigrants, none of whom are from a radically different culture. It would be a False Equivalence to compare immigrants from Austria and Poland (both bordering Germany) to immigrants from Islamic and African countries thousands of miles away.”

    France also borders Germany. In Hitler’s words: “The Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France.” What is true for France would be at least as true for Poland. By claiming it is a false equivalence, you prove you are no National Socialist.

    “Those quotes from Kohl and Schmidt do not denote racism either but a realistic appraisal”

    Now you sound like Jared Taylor.

    “Could it be that while the women followed the rules, those men tried to get through unlawfully?”

    You are guessing.

    “Rather the opposite: mass immigration has stimulated support for rightist parties.”

    Not by the refugees, though.

    What you are describing is the hyperactivity of the membrane-closing signal, which is driven by accurate awareness that the refugees are nutritious to leftist parties in the long-term. Once refugees become demographically decisive (and are all able to vote), it is over for rightism electionwise. The rightists know this (they call it “Californication”), which is why they need to stop this before it happens.

    “it cannot be assumed that all immigrants are nutrients”

    The net effect is enough nutrition for leftist parties to put rightist parties permanently out of winning elections, which is nutritious enough for me.

    “Neither Friedman nor Fischer created Aryanism so I’m right after all.”

    I consider myself a student of Jesus (among other teachers). Without him, I might not have created Aryanism as it is recognizable now.

    “Lots of leftists have been harmed too.”

    I said leftist parties.

    “It could apply to natives too if there was a signficant problem within a certain demographic. In fact that’s what prisons are for. ”

    Men are disproportionately criminal. Go ahead and start putting all men (including the innocent ones) in prison.

    “Dogs and cats rescued during a flood are often put in temporary cages, for their own benefit.”

    You continue to demonstrate your incapacity for respecting others.

    “And the primary concern of refugees is shelter, not comfort, luxury or absolute freedom of movement.”

    And you continue to demonstrate your incapacity for treating people as individuals. No two refugees are identical. Let individual refugees each decide for themselves what their own primary concerns are!

    “Likewise the Islamic empires had their different classes.”

    NOT likewise. Anyone can choose to become Muslim (and thus access full citizenship) any time. Can “non-whites” choose to become “white”? Again:

    whose fault is it that they are not citizens? If they refuse citizenship even though they are offered it, it is their own fault. If they are not given citizenship despite wanting it, it is the fault of the state.

    The former describes Islamic empires. The latter describes Western colonial empires.

    “The Roman Empire maintained various classes too and practiced slavery.”

    “The Roman slave was not at all what the expression encourages us to imagine to-day. In actual fact, the people concerned were prisoners of war (as we understand the term nowadays), of whom many had been freed and had the possibility of becoming citizens.” – Adolf Hitler

    “When the Carthaginians didn’t do as the Romans pleased, they waged war on them. When the Gauls didn’t do as the Romans pleased, Caesar waged war on them.”

    They chose not to peacefully become Roman. The people colonized by the Dutch were never offered a choice to become Dutch. Again:

    whose fault is it that they are not citizens? If they refuse citizenship even though they are offered it, it is their own fault. If they are not given citizenship despite wanting it, it is the fault of the state.

    “you said I supported punishment. I didn’t”

    Caging is punishment.

    “If I was genetically inclined towards racism, I would have manifested that Gentile inclination much sooner.”

    Your description of your friends shows that you did! Merely back then not yet in a way that is threatening to your out-group. Hunters when not actively hunting can interact in an affectionate manner with members of the same species of animals which are their prey (the same is even more true of herders), but this does not cause them to hesitate when it is time for the next hunt (or plain old slaughter in the case of herders). (This is why the “hate” is about the most stupendously wrongheaded word to ever be associated with racism. Yet the False Left STILL doesn’t get this.)

    “Turkey, Morocco, Algeria, Somalia and Pakistan are at the forefront of environmentalism?”

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/shithole-countries/

    Do I now need to teach you to find on each map the countries you mention, or how to read the colour codes?

    “Is it a conspiracy that 90% of the Wikipedia page on environmentalism lists European people and organizations?”

    No, it is a reflection of THE SOURCE LOCATION OF THE PROBLEM that these people and organizations are attempting to solve. (Similarly there is no BDS in countries whose states already do not recognize Israel.)

    “Even in regards to veganism, Africa and the Middle-East score extremely low compared to the Europeans.”

    Here is the link again:

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/03/06/042549

    Vegans rely almost exclusively on endogenous synthesis to generate LCPUFA and we hypothesized that an adaptive genetic polymorphism would confer advantage. … Analysis using 1000 Genomes Project data confirmed our observation, revealing a global I/I genotype of 70% in South Asians, 53% in Africans, 29% in East Asians, and 17% in Europeans.

    53% is “extremely low” compared to 17%?

    (The 17% is probably what’s left of our guys:

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/20-percent.jpg

    While 29% is still dismal, at least our guys apparently managed a slight increase over time:

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/outnumbered.jpg )

    I also just found this (now added to main site):

    https://i1.rgstatic.net/blog/files/2016/03/111793-1200×564.png

    And here again are the usual maps of actual consumption rates (I know the numbers “12730″ and “1491″ from memory by now…..):

    http://chartsbin.com/view/12730

    http://chartsbin.com/view/1491

    “White genocide.”

    MAKE REPLACEMENT GREAT AGAIN!

    @FD

    “I’m Indonesian, and we suffered enough under the Dutch tyranny for more than 300 years (including VOC conquest, theft, and exploitation)”

    Yes, please write about this on your own blog in detail, the more detail the better! Let the whole world know the cruelty of the Dutch Empire before ID and his ilk succeed in whitewashing this history! This is what your blog is for! Your blog hasn’t been updated since February!

    https://gerakannasionalisnusantara.blogspot.com/

    And stop calling yourself “Indonesian”, a Western name! Be a proud Nusantaran!

    “Never forget, never forgive.” – Savitri Devi

  23. Fatih Dion says:

    @AS

    “please write about this on your own blog in detail”

    Allright, I will looking for proper time on it

    Gift to your website content for more evidence that National Socialism is not racist

    he fact about National Socialist influence on my country during colonial time:

    “Among the natives, there were those who did not see Hitler’s negative steps. They looked at the figure of Hitler as a “liberator” figure which in the end was considered to open up opportunities from the shackles of the colonizer. Nationalist groups received results from the German army, they gave hope that they too would soon break the shackles of colonial law. ……….”

    One of the prominent parties among the natives was “Partai Indonesia Raya” (Parindra), which was founded by Sartono, Amir Sjarifuddin, and M. Husni Thamrin in 1935. On January 6, 1941, Husni Thamrin was accused by colonial authorities of having ties that were too close to Nazi Germany and Japan. …………. Parindra’s youth is truly a copy of a German Hitler Youth, including in his uniform and “Hitler salute”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOfRiA3U8AEabzE.jpg

    “The Nazi Party among the natives was the Indonesian Fascist Party (PFI) and the History of Fascism in the Archipelago (SFN), both founded in 1933 by Dr. Notonindito, who had studied in Germany from 1924 onwards, and received a doctorate in economics in Berlin. The Parindra was founded in 1935, and in 1936 the Indonesian Political Association (GAPI), and in 1937 the Indonesian People’s Movement (Gerindra).

    The Indo-European Union’s extreme right wing with around 12,000 members opens up opportunities for indigenous people, along with Dutch citizens and German citizens, to become members, even the natives become the majority. ”

    From book “Jejak Hitler di ‘Indonesia’” (Hitler’s Trace in “Indonesia”) page 99-101

    National Socialism rejects white supremacism and “Nordic superiority”

  24. Twin Ruler says:

    Most “Jews” are atheists, anyway. They no longer claim to be Chosen!

  25. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    @AS:

    “I consider myself a student of Jesus (among other teachers). Without him, I might not have created Aryanism as it is recognizable now.”

    Jesus actually led me to Aryanism.net. :D

  26. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    Fascinating!

    Former CIA Analyst Ray McGovern goes in on the Old Testament “god” on Jack Bernstein’s Flashpoints show, and relates it to Western culture and rightism. Starts at 07:30.

    https://kpfa.org/player/?audio=295290

  27. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    Correction: Dennis Bernstein’s show…

  28. Sun of the Isles says:

    @AS

    “Everyone here knows (because I have said this so many times over the years) that if I were born to Israeli parents, I would not only emigrate from Israel ASAP (so as to avoid paying taxes to Israel), but would also voluntarily refrain from reproducing so as to terminate the Jewish bloodline that my parents forced me to carry.”

    I would’ve blown the Knesset, commit sabotage on Zionist facilities, and join the Intifada with the Palestinians! This naturally involves not paying taxes to Israel. Why emigrate, when you can carry the war to enemy soil?

    “NOT likewise. Anyone can choose to become Muslim (and thus access full citizenship) any time.”

    What about adherents of the Christian or Buddhist faith? They should’ve also been given citizenship equal in status to the Muslims.

    “And stop calling yourself “Indonesian”, a Western name! Be a proud Nusantaran!”

    Nusantara is a more fitting name for Southest Asia, the region south of China and north of Australia. Indonesia was the name used during the Youth Oath and Youth Congress, and better be kept that way.

    @FD

    “I’m Indonesian, and we suffered enough under the Dutch tyranny for more than 300 years (including VOC conquest, theft, and exploitation)”

    Not to mention the hideous disease called “corruption” that the Dutch spread towards Indonesian politicians, administrators, and government officials.

    @ID

    “Lots of leftists have been harmed too. In fact they are much more likely to get harmed than the rightists who keep the immigrants at a safe distance.”

    Those murderers and rapists should be executed! Blame slack Western laws which merely throws rapists in jail instead of executing them (or at least cutting of their limb), under the pretext of “human rights”.

    If rapists are given harsh sentences, people will be more likely to restrain themselves from rape.

  29. AS says:

    @SotI

    “I would’ve blown the Knesset, commit sabotage on Zionist facilities, and join the Intifada with the Palestinians! This naturally involves not paying taxes to Israel. Why emigrate, when you can carry the war to enemy soil?”

    If you do that, anti-Zionist states will become more reluctant to use WMDs on Israel because they don’t want to hit people like you. The whole point of emigration is to clear the field for WMDs to be dropped on Israel without reason for hesitation. If I have a gun aimed at an IDF guy and then you suddenly decide to wrestle him, you are not helping.

    “Nusantara is a more fitting name for Southest Asia, the region south of China and north of Australia. Indonesia was the name used during the Youth Oath and Youth Congress, and better be kept that way.”

    You can start a different blog and call it whatever you want, but I will not link to it.

  30. Sun of the Isles says:

    @AS

    “If you do that, anti-Zionist states will become more reluctant to use WMDs on Israel because they don’t want to hit people like you.”

    Using WMDs on Israel will leave nothing but ruins for the exiled Palestinians returning into their land, once the state of Israel has been dissolved. WMDs would do more damage on Palestine than the daily bulldozing and razing Israel commits!

  31. Ivar Diederik says:

    @AS

    “Caging is punishment.”

    No it isn’t. It can be, but need not be.

    “Merely back then not yet in a way that is threatening to your out-group.”

    It’s still not threatening to them. None of them were Muslims or for other reasons hostile towards Europeans. That’s why their skin color was of no significance to me or any of my friends.

    If anyone is posing a danger to them, it’s people like you (and the Jews) who are indirectly supporting a race war in Europe, which would indeed affect them negatively.

    “What you are describing is the hyperactivity of the membrane-closing signal, which is driven by accurate awareness that the refugees are nutritious to leftist parties in the long-term. Once refugees become demographically decisive (and are all able to vote), it is over for rightism electionwise. The rightists know this (they call it “Californication”), which is why they need to stop this before it happens.”

    For the exact same reason the Jews had their voting rights taken away when the National-Socialists rose to power. The threat wasn’t called Californication back then but Bolshevism. You guys are the Jews of the modern era, and in fact have many of the same objectives as diaspora Jews do today.

    So yes, you can use immigration to corrupt democratic processes and turn what was intended to be about mediating political opinions into an attempt at racial conquest, but then of course the backlash will be predictable: race war. And you will be responsible for all the deaths that follow.

    You can try, but I think your ambition to conquer California and especially Europe will backfire. It will harm more of your people than mine.

    “I said leftist parties.”

    Well, your plan failed in the most recent American elections, and in Europe the right-wing parties are growing much faster than the little bit of extra support the left-wing parties are getting from new citizens. More immigrants = more incidents = more people supporting right-wing parties. Both the number of such parties as well as their total number of supporters has been increasing in the last five years. And left-wing parties have suffered catastrophic losses. You’re also losing the culture war: it used to be rebellious to support the left, whereas now rebellious types (particularly intelligent and educated ones) are drawn to the right.

    “I’m sure Brett Kavanaugh would be happy to hear from you.”

    Funny how that developed. Nobody believes Ford and her two Jewish lawyers anymore, nor that disgusting Jewess Julie Swetnick, nor Dianne Feinstein. But you do, right? “A shekel for the good goy!”

    @Fatih Dion

    “And your view on Dutch colonialism is false”

    What exactly was false? I wrote “it wasn’t all bad”, indicating that in my view bad things did indeed occur, but that there were also benefits (healthcare etc.). Were the sultans who ruled over your people prior to the arrival of the Dutch perfect? What about the 1648 massacre of ulema by Amangkurat I?

    One thing the colonial powers did, was end local tribal wars and stop slavery as well as various other cruel practices (involving women etc.). Granted, some of the colonialists introduced other types of cruelty, and they did practice brutal slavery themselves for a while, but all in all, it’s been a mix of harm and benefit. No serious historian will claim it was solely harmful or solely beneficial.

    “You suck and sickening and I hope you will end up in concentration camp with the untermenschen Juden when we gain power in the future”

    And this is exactly why European countries should close their borders to people from hostile nations. Particularly if those people are Islamic, Fatih (“conqueror”).

    “I want it, so the center of Jewish power (White Europeans) will be destroyed, and people like you will be disappear forever”

    You can desire that, but it won’t happen. White genocide is a term to denote an attempt (by Jews and people like yourself), not something that can ever be attained. Only a natural catastrophy like a meteor impact or the eruption of a supervolcano could achieve that, if the universe/Providence/God desired such a thing. So far, the opposite has been the case. Natural calamities created Whites.

    Whites can easily turn against Jews though (as history has shown again and again) and this is in fact happening as we speak. Although mainstream right-wing parties in Europe are still mostly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, among the younger people, antisemitism and anti-Zionism are spreading like wildfire. I see it all around me. A few days ago the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD even published a report in which it expressed worries about the growth of the Alt-Right in the Netherlands which, contrary to the mainstream right-wing parties, is “explicitly antisemitic and pro-Hitler.”

    https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/aivd-extreemrechts-leeft-op-door-zwarte-piet-en-de-islam~a26b4d37/

    Also, the annotated Dutch translation of Mein Kampf became an instant bestseller…

    https://www.trouw.nl/home/niet-verwacht-toch-gebeurd-hitlers-mijn-strijd-is-een-instant-bestseller~a2d8ec56/

    “National Socialism rejects white supremacism and “Nordic superiority””

    Who said anything about Nordic superiority? Who mentioned White supremacism? Leon Degrelle said it very well: “National Socialist racialism was not against the other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all other races did the same for themselves.”

    Hence the necessity of defending the borders of Europe and its individual nations, particularly against those of foreign and hostile races.

    @ItIsWhatItIs

    “Do you really believe the modern West would be as “successful” as it is in the global Judeo-Capitalist system if it had not plundered the rest of the non-Western world?”

    Well, the West was already quite succesful before it started trying to find alternative routes to India. The West had very good ships, weapons and so on. Long before colonialism, the Greeks and Romans had been succesful. The Gauls, prior to being subjugated by Caesar, were succesful. The Frisians and Norsemen were succesful. And before them, the Egyptians, Hittites, Sumerians and Aryans etc. had been succesful. All of these people were extremely smart and resourceful. Their success was not solely due to their military conquests. The main source of their success was their highly evolved brain, and the knowledge they cultivated and preserved in their civilizations.

    One problem with success however is that it tends to have unintended consequences. So you won’t ever hear me say that Western/European/White success has been 100% beneficial with no negative side-effects whatsoever. Colonialism did ruin native cultures, some of which were very beautiful. But the spread of Islam did the same, and so did the conquests of the Mongols, the Christians etc.

    @Sun of the Isles

    “Blame slack Western laws which merely throws rapists in jail instead of executing them (or at least cutting of their limb), under the pretext of “human rights”.”

    I do blame the EU for not handling the refugee crisis properly. But I disagree with you that harsh punishment is a way to deter crime. Stupid and vengeful people will take their chances and commit crimes regardless of the possible consequences. I’m not interested in the introduction of lynchings, the death penalty or Sharia law. I want efficient border protection and sufficient separation between Europeans and non-Europeans.

  32. Fatih Dion says:

    @Ivar Diederik

    “Who said anything about Nordic superiority? Who mentioned White supremacism? Leon Degrelle said it very well:…….”

    That is him, not Hitler, he dont know more deeply who Hitler was

    “Western/European/White success has been 100% beneficial with no negative side-effects whatsoever. ”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Surabaya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kraai

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Product

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_New_Guinea

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trikora

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/how-we-destroyed-sukarno-1188448.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

    Colonialism has negative effect, if not, why there are many rebellions or insurgents from the people of colonized territory?

  33. AS says:

    @ID

    “None of them were Muslims or for other reasons hostile towards Europeans.”

    If Muslims were “hostile towards Europeans”, they would forbid non-Muslims in Europe from becoming Muslims. Do they? (The colonial empires, on the other hand…..)

    “You guys are the Jews of the modern era, and in fact have many of the same objectives as diaspora Jews do today.”

    Jews want to integration to fail, which is why they promote multiculturalism. We want integration to succeed, which is why we promote building new culture.

    “the backlash will be predictable”

    I WAS THE ONE WHO PREDICTED IT! I was the one who came up with the term “Backlash Herder”!

    http://aryanism.net/blog/information/backlash-herders/

    “And you will be responsible for all the deaths that follow.”

    No, because I am also the one calling for people to reject the backlash herding, while YOU are the one who prefers backlash over succesful integration! YOU, whose entire line of argument is that because backlash is likely, therefore it is justified, are the one giving moral validation to it.

    “I think your ambition to conquer California and especially Europe will backfire.”

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/United_States_presidential_election_in_California%2C_2016.svg/929px-United_States_presidential_election_in_California%2C_2016.svg.png

    Next, let’s see how Corbyn does.

    “your plan failed in the most recent American elections”

    Hitler lost WWII also. I understand perfectly well that the good guys don’t always win. Am I supposed to switch sides for the sake of personally being on the winning side? No, because I don’t care about being on the winning side, I care about the good guys winning.

    “in Europe the right-wing parties are growing much faster than the little bit of extra support the left-wing parties are getting from new citizens”

    That is the fault of the establishment governments for giving out citizenship too slowly. Which reinforces my assertion that the establishment is trying to put the far-right in power.

    “More immigrants = more incidents = more people supporting right-wing parties.”

    Again, I WAS THE ONE WHO PREDICTED THIS! Back when the False Left believed it would all be smooth sailing and kumbaya parties, I was already warning otherwise. Unlike the False Left who believe racism is learned, I already knew racism is genetic.

    “You’re also losing the culture war: it used to be rebellious to support the left, whereas now rebellious types (particularly intelligent and educated ones) are drawn to the right.”

    This fits with the decline in education standards. How is it rebellious to join the side which you yourself repeatedly boast is NOT the underdog? In your own words to FD above:

    You can desire that, but it won’t happen. White genocide is a term to denote an attempt (by Jews and people like yourself), not something that can ever be attained.

    And in your own words to Miecz in the other thread:

    In America, WNs are definitely ready for it. They have vastly more amunition, weapons, training, land, vehicles, buildings, dried food and stored water than the non-Whites do. If you succesfully provoke a race war in America, you will lose. There’s no doubt about it.
    In Europe, you guys face similar disadvantages, although admittedly Europeans don’t have as much ammo, and Muslims could eventually organize a succesful invasion. But only if they take out the USA and Russia first, which is unlikely going to happen. And it’s actually quite unlikely that Muslims will get very far, as they don’t have a powerful base in the Middle-East anymore (Ottoman Empire gone etc.).

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/support-domenico-lucano/comment-page-1/#comment-180096

    Going by your own boasts, then, the underdog would be the “non-whites”/Muslims. Yet joining the side with the overwhelming practical advantages (according to your own boasts) is being “rebellious”? Are you fucking kidding me?

    So either your boasting is a lie, or your claim to rebelliousness is a lie. (Either way, your claim to intelligence is certainly a lie, or else you would not have contradicted yourself so trivially.)

    “A few days ago the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD even published a report in which it expressed worries about the growth of the Alt-Right in the Netherlands which, contrary to the mainstream right-wing parties, is “explicitly antisemitic and pro-Hitler.””

    It is impossible to be pro-Hitler without being pro-Islam.

    “Nobody believes Ford”

    I never mentioned Ford. Kavanaugh has PROVABLY lied under oath (ie. committed perjury) more than enough times to disqualify himself 10+ times over from holding any judicial office in a judicial system worth respecting:

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

    “I wrote “it wasn’t all bad”, indicating that in my view bad things did indeed occur, but that there were also benefits (healthcare etc.).”

    If a rape victim orgasms, does that imply the rapist should be let off?

    (Besides, healthcare??? Are you seriously implying that there was no healthcare prior to colonialism? Thanks for proving what I was saying about the decline in education standards, I guess…..)

    “Were the sultans who ruled over your people prior to the arrival of the Dutch perfect?”

    If a rape victim’s pre-rape life was not perfect, does that imply the rapist should be let off?

    @FD

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Surabaya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kraai

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Product

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_New_Guinea

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trikora

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/how-we-destroyed-sukarno-1188448.html

    OK, now PUT ALL THIS ON YOUR OWN BLOG!!!!!! If you have time to post comments here, you have time to build up your own blog.

  34. Ivar Diederik says:

    @Fatih Dion

    “Western/European/White success has been 100% beneficial with no negative side-effects whatsoever. ”

    Is that supposed to be a quote? The full sentence was this:

    So you won’t ever hear me say that Western/European/White success has been 100% beneficial with no negative side-effects whatsoever.

    “Colonialism has negative effect, if not, why there are many rebellions or insurgents from the people of colonized territory?”

    There’s no logic in that question. Rebellions and insurgencies do not prove that the net effect of a current or past regime was negative. In every country and every age there have been rebellions and insurgencies.

  35. Sun of the Isles says:

    @ID

    “The main source of their success was their highly evolved brain, and the knowledge they cultivated and preserved in their civilizations.”

    Jews also state that the cause of their success are “their highly evolved brain, and the knowledge they cultivated and preserved in their civilizations.”

    “Whites can easily turn against Jews though (as history has shown again and again) and this is in fact happening as we speak.”

    And as history has shown again and again, the Jews just pack up and go somewhere else. Last time they set up shop in Palestine.

    “Were the sultans who ruled over your people prior to the arrival of the Dutch perfect? What about the 1648 massacre of ulema by Amangkurat I?”

    The Romans also had Caligula, Nero, etc. States and civilisations cannot be judged from their monarchs alone, for monarchs come and go.

    (By the way, most Indonesians have never even heared about him, except in history classes. The most famous sultan in the history of the Mataram Sultanate is Sultan Agung…)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Agung_of_Mataram

    “One thing the colonial powers did, was end local tribal wars and stop slavery as well as various other cruel practices (involving women etc.).”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Post_Road
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivation_System

    The Dutch even encouraged serfdom and started the practice of corruption in Indonesia, which persists even in this time, by letting the nobility levy taxes upon the peasants by themselves. Thereby the “pribumi” officers in charge of collecting the taxes would levy more than the Dutch requested, so that they could keep some of it to themselves.

    “I’m not interested in the introduction of lynchings, the death penalty or Sharia law.”

    Victims of rape themselves would welcome death penalties for rape, unless they be of the False Left types who would complain about “human rights” or other nonsense.

  36. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    Where did Americans believe promoting wealth above all other values was going to lead them? Trump is the in-the-flesh representation of everything America has been promoting around the world since it became part of the Judeo-Greco-Christian west, and made Judeo-Capitalism it’s economic model.

  37. Erich says:

    @Ivar Diederik

    I am here neutral with most of the other issues, but as I am vegan, I need have to respond to the issue of veganism, although I am not interested in food nutrition (just enough not to die) I am in morality and philosophy, because the second part is the most important.

    First part: Veganism is not harmful to health at any stage of life not even childhood. That is absolutely false and is based on uninformed speech.

    All those who have rigorously studied veganism, as the world health organization, have stated that veganism, with proper planning (like any type of diet) is “suitable for every stage of life, including pregnancy, infancy and adolescence.

    You don’t need studies full of words that only scientists understand, you have to use logic and “non-common” sense:

    Milk does not have any kind of good nutritional value nor does it serve to obtain calcium out of the lactancy period, due to the fact that it is nullified with other vitamins from the milk itself, along with other reasons. The only milk that is intended to be consumed is the milk of your mother or another woman of your species, cow or goat milk, is made to be consumed by a cow or goat, with their own nutritional necesities not by a human, would you give human milk to a cow? or even a adult cow? also milk is full of femenine hormones because farmers inject them to make cows to grow earlier and can make more and more milk without get diseases.

    Meat has nothing superior to any vegetable product, fruits, dried fruits and other 100% vegetable foods, all the omega-3 of fish can be found in dried fruits, the proteins of meat same, good fatty acids same, absolutely no one at any time in his life needs to eat meat, if so we would be carnivores not omnivores, which is we can eat meat, but we should not do it, as we can eat human meat, totally healthy and we do not do it.

    Meat, as recognized by the WHO, is one of the main causes of malignant tumour in modern society, in addition to its harmful fats and high cholesterol.

    The egg is only the period of a hen, expelled from its interior, full of excrement, I want to give you a non-emotional explanation like the previous ones but it is as rematably absurd to eat the waste of a hen (or other oviparous) as absurd as eating the period of a human woman. Besides, the egg has nothing but proteins, which any small consumption of dried fruits supplies in the same way, but eggs have as well a large amount of cholesterol.

    In short, veganism is suitable for all stages of life, so, for health reasons, it is proven that vegan nutrition (not veganism which is the moral position) is the right one.

    Part Two: Now let’s talk about veganism as an ethical principle, NOT an ideological one. Veganism is not an “ideology”, an ideology is a way of seeing and ordering a society, communism, fascism, liberalism are ideologies. To oppose exploitation is not an ideology, to oppose exploitation by character of species (specism) is not ideology, it is a moral and ethical posture. Ethics and morality come in one way: reason. Ethics is universal. The implementation of morality is universal, or one is moral or immoral according to logic and reason, not to ideas and personal beliefs.

    Why then is it unethical to exploit animals (which includes eating them), and therefore immoral? Well, using reason:
    1. The discrimination by species is incorrect, what matters are the individuals who feel and suffer, belonging to a species does not make me superior or inferior, belonging to the human species (which is an animal species, don’t forget it) doesn’t make me possessor of an elite status over others, it only biologically describes where I belong, that’s why…
    2. Rights do not come from being human, they come from being “sentient”, the ability of the individual to feel and therefore have interests, which are the interest of living and the interest of not being considered property. Intelligence is irrelevant, babies and younger children lack much intelligence in general (both animals and older children are rational, but not at the normal human level) and that does not make them inferior nor do we kill them and eat them because they do not speak or think rationally.

    You do not want to be treated as an object, you have interest in living, so homicide and cannibalism are crimes and morally are considered an aberration, although the reason is wrong, ie because you are human, nor as some new age or buddhist people say because “you are a living being,” neither of the two, the real reason is because you are “sentient.

    Neither plants (or some animals without nervous systems or brains like starfish are sentient although it is an insignificant percentage, 99% of animals are sentient), have no interest in living and being treated as objects, and therefore it is ethical and moral to kill plants and eat them, a mouse wants to live, a snail wants to live, no matter how insignificant they seem to you, just as a baby wants to live, a plant does not want to live, does not know that it exists on any plane of existence.

    So don’t confuse veganism and vegetarianism. Vegetarianism is a moral scam, which like those who eat animals is based on the idea that animals are inferior (specism) and therefore their exploitation is correct. Veganism is the moral position against such exploitation, independent of your ideology and beliefs and therefore all animal exploitation is rejected, THEREFORE as we do not need animal products to live so it is immoral to consume them.

    You say that they want to impose veganism on a European society that has never been vegan in its millenary history. Well, what’s the point? then we go back to the parental power of the Romans and legalize killing your own son? or the feudal system? Societies advance, the fact that our ancestors accepted or rejected something does not mean that we should do it, they must be analyzed in their historical and cultural moment, our ancestors do not even know human dignity to know animal dignity.

    If you are traditionalist and want to preserve what matters to you about your ancestors and your culture, then it is their art, their politics, their architecture, their music, the positive things that make the world a happier and more beautiful place, not moral misery and barbarism, and even less excuse it with “it’s nature”, that your ancestor cut off the head of a chicken to eat does not make it worth preserving, just as it is not, cutting off the head of a peasant from a neighboring country.

  38. AS says:

    @Erich

    “therefore it is ethical and moral to kill plants and eat them”

    No, it is only less bad because the food chain is shorter which means less thermodynamic waste.

    I should mention, however, that cereals are only harvested after they have already completed their full life cycle (indicated by the colour change), in other words they are not killed, but die at their own pace.

    Alive (green):

    https://c8.alamy.com/compde/b5frf9/landschaft-von-reis-terrassen-longsheng-guangxi-china-b5frf9.jpg

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/ET1R7T/terrace-farming-in-uttarakhand-india-asia-ET1R7T.jpg

    Dead (yellow):

    http://www.travelsense.asia/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/stock-photo-162979289.jpg

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2015-06/03/134295002_14333400139821n.jpg

    This is the superiority of the Aryan diet.

    Bonus pictures:

    https://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2015/11/terrace-farm.jpg

    https://asiatravelpackages.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Chiang-Mai.jpg

    https://previews.123rf.com/images/javarman/javarman0905/javarman090500176/4880819-rizi%C3%A8res-en-terrasses-des-yuanyang-yunnan-chine.jpg

    “a plant does not want to live, does not know that it exists on any plane of existence.”

    I hope you can one day remember back to a time when you effortlessly knew better (probably when you were younger). Here is a video to get the ball rolling:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmP3Bgy0DU

  39. Erich says:

    Ethics is based on respecting the interests of others, in a plant has no interests, so there is no conflict of interests, is alive but has no sentience, the requirement to have consciousness, a plant is like a stone or a mineral, life is not equivalent to sentience, if you use even a part of your reasoning, without even needing to know biology, you understand the nonsense you propose.

    The arguments, to be analyzed and validated, are based on reason, not on religious creeds, whether Jainism or even other religions that are not even vegan or vegetarian like Hinduism and Christianity, that only a small percentage of Hinduists and Christians are vegetarian (the fallacy mentioned above), Jesus Christ was so vegan, no matter how many phrases of him on the love of animals, which allowed the sacrifice of innocent lambs and turned the bread into fish.

    You don’t rely on arguments. You base yourself on beliefs and feelings that fit your way of seeing the world and your emotional relief. If you wanted to eat animals instead you would defend with so much passion using arguments such as “that his soul is passed on to ours” or “that they give their life for us” or “eating animals is the balance of nature”, that is what happens when something is not based on reason but on feelings.

    You put some images of agricultural fields at different times of cultivation, and that is proof of the Aryan diet…?

    I don’t know everything, what I know is that before I knew less, every day that passes I know more, and that I know more than when I was young, not because I despise children and young people but because to not have no idea of a thing is not equivalent to knowing a thing by instinct.

    A fragment of Princess Mononoke is a great example, then I would have to give for true the cartoons that adults put us to when we were children where cows gladly give their milk to us and enter the slaughterhouse with a smile to give us hamburgers.

    The fact that you put as examples series and movies throughout your website shows the degree of fantasy in which you all live, I’m sure that if one of you were a fan of warhammer 40000 in this blog would talk about creating an Imperium of Man and create a race of genetic superwarriors. Or did I miss something?

    Bonus:
    Hitler, the one who you is supposed to follow every word like a prophet (if you knew what he thought of mysticists…) was so vegan that not only the entire German army but Hitler himself:
    - wore leather jackets.
    - wore leather boots
    - wore hats made of wool and with pieces of leather.
    - wore uniforms made of wool.

    So vegan that he forbade protovegan associations (before the word veganism existed) because he considered pacifists and animal defenders to be “weak and sentimentalists”. The laws of “animal protection” were two or three laws that were neither put into practice, such as giving licenses to make viviseccions without any problem or allow hunting, of which his friend Goering was very fond.
    And finally Hitler was not even a vegetarian:
    https://michaelbluejay.com/veg/hitler.html

    The Third Reich was very vegan, killing billions in a bestial war, crowding thousands of men, women AND CHILDREN in train wagons and sending millions of humans to concentration camps BECAUSE THEIR RACE is very vegan too!! yay!

  40. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    If trees are unaware that they exist on any plane of existence, why do they bother communicating with each other?

    Isn’t the fruit around a seed the same principle of nutrition that the egg white of a hen’s egg is to the yolk? Using the logic of Erich could we not also state that fruit from a tree is the “period” of the tree, like “ the hen’s egg is the ‘period’ of the hen”?

  41. Sun of the Isles says:

    @AS

    “I should mention, however, that cereals are only harvested after they have already completed their full life cycle (indicated by the colour change), in other words they are not killed, but die at their own pace.”

    What about green vegetables such as spinaches, cabbages, etc. then?

  42. AS says:

    @Erich

    “The arguments, to be analyzed and validated, are based on reason,”

    Very well. Then you should know that it is impossible to prove a negative, and therefore impossible to state that plants are not sentient. Ethically we should strive to minimize initiated violence towards anything that MIGHT BE sentient.

    “You put some images of agricultural fields at different times of cultivation, and that is proof of the Aryan diet…?”

    No, I am showing how farmers tell when cereals are ready to be harvested. The inference is that harvesting is not killing.

    “The fact that you put as examples series and movies throughout your website shows the degree of fantasy in which you all live”

    We are trying to gather primarily people who already think like us, and only secondarily people who can be persuaded to think like us. If our site was nothing but argumentation, it would attract mainly the latter instead of the former.

    “I’m sure that if one of you were a fan of warhammer 40000 in this blog would talk about creating an Imperium of Man and create a race of genetic superwarriors. Or did I miss something?”

    You missed that we oppose both humanism and settlement of outer space.

    “Hitler, the one who you is supposed to follow every word”

    While we view our movement as a continuation of what Hitler began, we do not treat Hitler’s stated views as dogma, and will disagree with him outright as necessary.

    http://aryanism.net/about/faq/

    “Hitler was not even a vegetarian”

    From your link:

    we have the testimony to the contrary of the woman chef who was his personal cook in Hamburg during the late 1930s – Dione Lucas. In her “Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook,” she records that his favorite dish – the one that he customarily requested – was stuffed squab (pigeon).

    We have no way to directly check Lucas’ testimony. But we do have contrary testimony:

    “Between 11 and 12 o’clock, we had to taste the food, and only after all of us had tried it was it driven to the headquarters by the SS. It was all vegetarian, the most delicious fresh things, from asparagus to peppers and peas, served with rice and salads. … There was no meat and I do not remember any fish.” – Margot Woelk

    You may claim that Woelk did not monitor every meal, and that the meals Lucas cooked happened to be the exact ones that Woelk did not monitor. But we turn to forensic evidence:

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/hitler-vegetarian.jpg

    If you believe Lucas, the burden is on you to explain the absence of meat in the dental plaque.

    By the way, the last line in your linked article:

    Roberta Kalechofsky is a writer, publisher, and the president of Jews for Animal Rights

    “The Third Reich was very vegan, killing billions in a bestial war”

    Would this not substantially reduce the total demand for animal products?

    @SotI

    “What about green vegetables such as spinaches, cabbages, etc. then?”

    This has to be considered on a case-by-case basis depending on harvesting details (e.g. trimming vs uprooting), but generally it can be expected to involve more violence than cereal harvesting. This is why a cereal-heavy diet is superior. Fruits (including many classified as “vegetables” in cooking, such as tomatoes, cucumbers, etc.) are fine too, of course. Root vegetables are also no problem so long as we are supplying the plant with compensatory nutrition in return.

    In the same way, and as I have mentioned in the past, I would have no problem in principle with eating eggs from GENUINELY free hens (not the present-day scam “free-range” where there is a so-called “exit” that none of the hens can realistically reach). Back in the Neolithic era, it would have made perfect sense for hens to congregate voluntarily on Aryan subsistence farms (where they would get not only food but also refuge from predators (human and non-human)), and the Aryans would get their eggs in return. This only became corrupted when non-Aryan humans who had learned farming imprisoned the congregated hens, and started breeding subsequent generations deliberately (for both eggs and meat, as well as cockfighting and other sadistic practices), which eventually led to the horrors of Western modern poultry factories:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debeaking

    Thus, while I would in principle be willing to eat eggs from existing hens (in genuinely free living conditions), I would never support breeding subsequent generations of hens for the sake of maintaining a supply of eggs for humans. This means in practice that I don’t eat eggs within the economy at all, as doing so would create economic demand for subsequent generations of hens to be bred.

    Western civilization must die.

  43. Sun of the Isles says:

    @AS

    Consumption of honey should also be sanctioned then; artificial beehives provide bees with shelter, and the honey, of little use to the bees themselves, can be collected. The bees are able to come and leave the shelter as they wish.

    I of course do not support derangement of pre-existing beehives made painstakingly by the bees.

    By the way, what do you think of the killing of pests and venomous animals who prey on other animals, including humans (such as the python)?

  44. William Eastfield says:

    @AS

    “Back in the Neolithic era, it would have made perfect sense for hens to congregate voluntarily on Aryan subsistence farms (where they would get not only food but also refuge from predators (human and non-human)), and the Aryans would get their eggs in return.”

    Was it noble of them to assume that the chickens coming to them for refuge were okay with them eating their eggs? Do you think that there somehow was communication/consent between the two species?

    “Ethically we should strive to minimize initiated violence towards anything that MIGHT BE sentient.”

    Please note that the organisms within eggs have a higher chance of being sentient than plants do.

    “I would have no problem in principle with eating eggs from GENUINELY free hens”

    Even with this largely less-cruel alternative, egg-eating is still an unhealthy habit given the high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol within them. I’d even say that eating eggs is selfish as the ailments caused by eggs will unnecessarily strain the community/state that the eater is a resident of – whether that selfishness is just the person working slightly slower throughout the day, or resources being used to compensate for the energy spent on producing medicine/people needing to care for them in a hospital.

    “Thus, while I would in principle be willing to eat eggs from existing hens (in genuinely free living conditions), I would never support breeding subsequent generations of hens for the sake of maintaining a supply of eggs for humans. This means in practice that I don’t eat eggs within the economy at all, as doing so would create economic demand for subsequent generations of hens to be bred.

    Western civilization must die.”

    I agree.

  45. AS says:

    @SotI

    “Consumption of honey should also be sanctioned then; artificial beehives provide bees with shelter, and the honey, of little use to the bees themselves, can be collected. The bees are able to come and leave the shelter as they wish.”

    I’m not sure what you mean by the honey being “of little use to the bees themselves”. It is their food (especially for the bee children), produced with their own labour!

    If you buld a hive, wait for bees to voluntarily inhabit it, and collect only the honey they leave behind (which would otherwise be wasted) after they have voluntarily departed, and nothing else, that would be acceptable. But present-day honey is collected violently:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_smoker

    This form of honey collection is more comparable to milking.

    In any case, human Aryans came up with our own version of honey:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt

    so we do not need bees’ version. (Indeed this common lifestyle may be part of why bees were regarded as insect Aryans.)

    “By the way, what do you think of the killing of pests and venomous animals who prey on other animals, including humans (such as the python)?”

    If I saw a predator in the process of hunting, I would kill the predator to rescue the prey (unless I had additional information that the prey individual is deserving of being eaten). This is Ahimsa. If I see an animal whose species is supposedly evolved to be predatorial but who is individually not displaying predatorial behaviour at the moment, I would treat that animal as an indiviual rather than as a stereotype of the species, and thus give benefit of doubt that this individual is not a predator. The long-term solution is to prevent the species from reproducing.

    https://www.timesnownews.com/the-buzz/article/python-toddler-son-parents-playing-with-python-shocking-video/282195

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/giggling-boy-rides-six-metre-python-in-vietnam-floodwaters-37483871.html

    (Pythons are not venomous, by the way.)

    Humans as a species are indisputably many orders of magnitude more dangerous than any non-human species, yet humans still expect to be treated as individuals by other humans, even while most humans fail to treat non-humans as individuals (with irregular exceptions made for their own private pets, perhaps). This is the humanist version of Talmudism, which I have always said is at least as bad as the Judaic (and “white”) versions.

    @WE

    “Was it noble of them to assume that the chickens coming to them for refuge were okay with them eating their eggs? Do you think that there somehow was communication/consent between the two species?”

    It would only be an assumption if the chickens were not allowed to choose to leave. What I was describing involved chickens free to weigh the deal they got on Aryan subsistence farms compared to deals they could get elsewhere. Indeed, it is entirely possible that two Aryan subsistence farms had different tax rules, for example one might prefer taxes payable in manure:

    https://www.hgtv.com/outdoors/gardens/animals-and-wildlife/the-straight-poop-on-using-chicken-manure-as-fertilizer

    so it would be up to individual chickens to migrate to whichever they prefer. Remember, back then chickens were not yet domesticated, so if they didn’t like any available deal, they could choose to fend for themselves like they were doing the whole time before Aryan subsistence farms came along! (Whereas today, dealing with domesticated chickens, the ethical calculation is different.)

    (None of the above is to discount the possibility of detailed communication, which a number of mythical Aryan leaders were reputed to be capable of.)

    “Please note that the organisms within eggs have a higher chance of being sentient than plants do.”

    ???

  46. Sun of the Isles says:

    @AS

    “The grains are made to germinate by soaking in water, and are then halted from germinating further by drying with hot air.”

    Malting is no different than killing offsprings of animals??

  47. Sun of the Isles says:

    “I’m not sure what you mean by the honey being “of little use to the bees themselves”. It is their food (especially for the bee children), produced with their own labour!”

    By the way, I have always thought that bees only ate the nectar, and the honey is their droppings or something! Never thought that modern collection of honey involves a method comparable to robbing someone’s home when they are on vacation!

  48. ItIsWhatItIs says:

    My German grandparents started me out on malt children’s beer at a very young age. Unfortunately, I escalated that to the point were I was drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes all day, without eating, only to drink large amounts of alcoholic beer at night in order to go to sleep. That all ended in a terrible bout of pancreatitis after about 39 travels around the sun.

    What I learned about this world from that experience? No matter how hard you try and avoid it, and no matter how dirty having to take a shit makes you feel, you gotta eat something, especially if you don’t want to die in agony….

    Sucks, I know… :D

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

*

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>