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And yes, I know perfectly well that petitions are meaningless in practice, but at least it’s a symbolic first step. The only numbers which ultimately matter are the number of people willing to place themselves in physical danger to defend their fellow citizens when the far-right violence begins. And even then, a smaller but more fanatical paramilitary group can defeat a larger but less fanatical one:
“Like wolves they threw themselves on the enemy again and again in parties of eight or ten and began steadily to thrash them out of the hall. After five minutes I could see hardly one of them that was not streaming with blood. Then I realized what kind of men many of them were, above all my brave Maurice Hess, who is my private secretary to-day, and many others who, even though seriously wounded, attacked again and again as long as they could stand on their feet. Twenty minutes long the pandemonium continued. Then the opponents, who had numbered seven or eight hundred, had been driven from the hall or hurled out headlong by my men, who had not numbered fifty.” – Adolf Hitler
The SA needs to be ressurected in Germany to fight PEGIDA just like they fought the RFB last time. Contact us if you think you can get it up and running:
The sooner the better, because until then this will continue to happen:
and the reputation of the swastika will continue to be sullied.
You have a pretty warped view of Nazism if you think what you think.
I fully agree that one should not fall into the government sponsored Islamophobia, but you go too far.
Muslims are not universally the allies of German and European Nationalists or National-Socialists.
You lose yourself in the religious argument and forget the racial argument. Although with you Im starting to think you are pro-Arab/negroe/etc as your comment is very weird.
Long story short, forget Nazism for a moment: If you dont say GERMANY FOR GERMANS, then you are no Nazi or Nationalist. Period. End of story.
Also I must write about this Hitler comment on Islam.
You make a huge fallacy here which is beyond stupidity.
A. Hitler spoke positively about Muslims.
B. Most immigrants in Europe are Muslims and they oppose Jews.
C. Thus the immigrants are our friends. A + B = C.
BUT WHAT YOU FORGET IS THE RACIAL IDENTITY OF THE IMMIGRANTS (purposefully or ignorantly).
Hitler spoke that an Islamized Europe (NOT IN RACIAL SENSE, IN RELIGIOUS SENSE) would be better than a CHRISTIANIZED EUROPE.
I even tend to agree with him on this.
But the PROBLEM IS NOT THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS RACIALLY EUROPE IS TAKEN OVER BY NON WHITES.
THEY HAPPEN TO BE MUSLIM BUT THIS IS IRRELEVANT. THEY WILL NEED TO BE DEPORTED IF YOU ARE A NAZI/NATIONALIST. THERE IS NO LIVING TOGETHER POSSIBLE OF MULTIPLE RACES IN NATIONAL SOCIALIST STATE. EVER HEARD OF LEBENSRAUM?
Yes we Nationalists are very happy the Jews are opposed by the Muslims.
But this doesnt mean we should allow them in Europe! And again I mean the MUSLIM NON WHITES. I AM FINE WITH MUSLIM WHITES (to an extent).
It seems to me you are hiding an ANTI WHITE STANCE behind pseudo NAZISM.
WE DONT OPPOSE ISLAM WE OPPOSE NON WHITES.
I quote: “(By the way, Hitler himself was an immigrant to Germany!)”
This is simply Volksverrat and disgusting comment!
“GERMANY FOR GERMANS”
This includes “non-white” Germans.
“Hitler spoke that an Islamized Europe (NOT IN RACIAL SENSE, IN RELIGIOUS SENSE) would be better than a CHRISTIANIZED EUROPE.
I even tend to agree with him on this.
But the PROBLEM IS NOT THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS RACIALLY EUROPE IS TAKEN OVER BY NON WHITES.
THEY HAPPEN TO BE MUSLIM BUT THIS IS IRRELEVANT. THEY WILL NEED TO BE DEPORTED IF YOU ARE A NAZI/NATIONALIST. THERE IS NO LIVING TOGETHER POSSIBLE OF MULTIPLE RACES IN NATIONAL SOCIALIST STATE. EVER HEARD OF LEBENSRAUM?”
Were the rulers of Andalus “white”? No. Did Hitler say Andalus was the best period in Spanish history? Yes. In fact, in the actual quotes, Hitler specifically referred to “Arabian” and “Arab”:
“The Arabian epoch … was the most cultured, the most intellectual and in every way best and happiest epoch in Spanish history.” – Adolf Hitler
“The government of the Arabs in Spain too was infinitely distinguished: Many scientists, thinkers, astronomers, mathematicians, one of the most humane times, at the same time as a colossal knighthood.” – Adolf Hitler
so Hitler evidently had no problem with “non-white” presence in Europe, and at least in this case was even glad about it.
You are not a nationalist. You are an identitarian. Nationalists avoid terms such as “white” or “non-white” that only divide the nation.
“It seems to me you are hiding an ANTI WHITE STANCE”
I am not hiding anything. I am openly anti-White.
It would be hypocritical of me to be anti-Zionist without also being anti-White. I oppose all tribalism. (Of course I have no problem with fair-complexioned individuals, so long as they do not think of themselves as “white”. I only have a problem with people like you.)
The only thing that makes a person superior to another is character.
“Nazis had romantic notion of Islam like most Westerners in 1930s (Orientalism) but they clearly called ALL SEMITIC POPULATIONS/RACES AS SUBHUMAN.”
“Semitic” is a language group. “Subhuman” is a term I’d gladly apply to PEGIDA and other identitarian filth. The spiritual successors of Bolshevism indeed!
I would like to clarify one point. Not until the defeat of Judaism and Jewishness do I believe a confrontation of Islam in regards to its practices of circumcision, Halal Slaughter, and the regulation of human enslavement is warranted. Less the three negatives of Islam aforementioned, Islam is good, and pure.
Most important of all true Islam does not promote barbarism or tribalism, compared to Judaism, which promotes every negative aforementioned, and then some.
Most ‘true’ Muslims today are willing to reform, where-as most ‘true’ Jews would never even consider reform, as reform would be a subversion of ‘true’ Jewishness. In the Jewish mind, the subversion of all society to the Jewish view is much more palatable…
“circumcision, Halal Slaughter, and the regulation of human enslavement”
Circumcision was discussed earlier in the thread. As for Halal slaughter, I don’t think we should be taking sides over different slaughter methods (as if some methods are morally acceptable?!), instead we should simply be condemning slaughter as a whole. As for human enslavement, Islam stipulates that a Muslim can never take another Muslim as a slave*, and that everyone is to be given a chance to convert, so in theory everyone can choose not to live as a slave, and those who refused to convert initially can still convert at any subsequent time (whereupon they are to be freed at once and instantly receive all legal privileges possessed by every other Muslim), so in theory everyone can choose to stop living as a slave at any time. Given such conditions, the term “slave” (which typically connotes that the subject has no choice in the matter) is inaccurate to describe the phenomenon. Rather, a so-called “slave” in Islam is merely someone who is in effect VOLUNTARILY CHOOSING indentureship over citizenship after being offered both options. This system of Islam (which was applied even to Jews) is therefore even more lax than the National Socialist system of putting Jews in concentration camps – and we do not call Jews in concentration camps “slaves”. If anything, as National Socialists we should criticize Islam as being too lax in the matter, as it fails to take precautions against tribalists who outwardly convert to a universalist religion but who remain tribalist at heart. If Mohammed had done it the National Socialist way and kept Jews in concentration camps irrespective of whether they claimed to convert or not, Mohammedanism might have been spared subsequent corruption by nominally ‘Muslim’ crypto-Jews.
(* Incidentally, since Mohammed also stated that all animals are Muslims by default, the correct interpretation of Islam forbids all animal exploitation. This is reinforced by the fact that vegan food is automatically Halal, whereas meat requires a ritual to make it artificially Halal, implying that meat is inherently Haraam but was only being temporarily permitted out of sheer victual necessity during wartime.)
“Most ‘true’ Muslims today are willing to reform”
We are not asking Muslims to “reform”, we are asking them to return to the original Mohammedanism before it was corrupted.
@AS: Excellent points. Thank you, I learned something there! I suppose my argument was based upon the premise that calling out Judaism for its barbarity whilst not calling out other religions for theirs comes across as hypocritical.
Your argument makes perfect sense. Thanks again for clearing that up.
@SSNord: Let me tell you a little story. I once was in contact with a Sunni Muslim woman from Afghanistan living in Germany. Her family had spread out all over the world after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, and then later the American invasion. She was born in Germany. She spoke of how hard it is to be a practicing Muslim in Germany. She told me even though she is of Afghan origin, she is a German at heart! She told me she will always be a German at heart, no matter what.
I would rather stand with a person who feels Germany in their heart than the one who believes German is all about skin color first-and-foremost.
You are obviously stuck on Hitler at the point in his life were he was a man of his time, and refuse him when he was born into the ‘man against time’, much like the Jews did to Jesus of Nazareth when he started calling out their beliefs.
Here is the main difference between you and I: I am free, because I can change my beliefs at the drop of a hat when someone proves my beliefs misguided, you are a slave because no matter what evidence is presented to you that your beliefs are misguided, you will summon all your strength to resist changing them.
Your ‘white’ identity is a product of Judeo-Christian Anglo-Saxon elite propaganda used to conquer and divide , nothing more.
- “…You have a pretty warped view of Nazism if you think what you think.” –
Because it could never be you that is the warped one, you are obviously God’s gift to man, are you not SS Nord?
“There are two fundamentally different kinds of speakers: those who use reasoning, and those who speak from the heart. They reach two different sorts of people, those who understand through reason, and those who understand through the heart. Speakers who aim for the reason are generally found in parliaments, those who speak from the heart speak to the people.” – Dr. Joseph Goebbels
I disagree with AS that being given the choice between slavery and conversion to Islam is an excuse for slavery. Muslims should see a master-slave relationship as a form of polytheism that violates Islam’s strict monotheism, similar to how Jesus would not bow to Satan, saying ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only’. This is what some Muslims beliee – for example the Koran scholar who changed his name from ‘Ghulam Nabi’ (slave of the prophet) to Abdullah (slave of God). However, I do believe in a caste society. I think Decebal was opposing it earlier. I don’t know why – surely if Aryanism succeeds Jews will be excluded from having influential positions, for a start, and AS was just now talking about putting Jews in concentration camps, which I support.
I’m glad the Hitler quotes about Andalucia, the region I’ve taken my current screen-name from, have been brought up. Akhnat0n said he thinks ‘Islam has a lot more salvaging to do than Christianity, in respect to compliance with Aryanism’. I disagree – I would have preferred al-Andalus to not have been conquered by the Christians. I’m not even a Muslim – I just see al-Andalus as an oasis of high culture, harmony between Muslims and Christians (and Jews, unfortunately) and freedom of thought compared to other European countries of that time. The video Akhnat0n posted was interesting – those guys aren’t on our side, although I would definitely like to see Buckingham Palace turned into a mosque!
Brilliant, but most White R?e?a?c?t?i?o?n?a?r?i?e?s? Supremacists, like the idea of White Multiculturalism, they don’t care what religion or culture you are, how pretty you are, or even if you had a CRIMINAL past! all they think is — “As long you’re white, you’re Right!”
when they read — “Your ‘white’ identity is a product of Judeo-Christian Anglo-Saxon elite propaganda used to conquer and divide , nothing more.”
The think — “White race is same, White race is good, White race is powerful, I am Super White man, you are big bad Leftist commin’ to destroy muh white mans pride”
also when they read ” I once was in contact with a Sunni Muslim woman from Afghanistan living in Germany. Her family had spread out all over the world after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, and then later the American invasion. She was born in Germany. She spoke of how hard it is to be a practicing Muslim in Germany. She told me even though she is of Afghan origin, she is a German at heart! She told me she will always be a German at heart, no matter what.”
They just say “She not white so she not right”……….
@ SSNord. “..warped view of Nazism”. ‘Nazism’ is a kosher post WW2 phenomenon attempting to morph authentic NS into something use full for the world-enemy of all. “Non Whites…They will need to be deported if You are a Nazi/Nationalist” If You investigate the NSDAP 25 point program,and the interpretation thereof by by A.Rosenberg or G.Feder,You will find that point 8 and also partly points 4,5,6 and 18 are directed against JEWISH immigration (and power). “Germany for Germans” But by supporting “nopegida” Your are morphing from a German patriot into a “White-Nationalist” “Euro-Nationalist” patriot and therefor,by default, supporting the Plutocrat EU structure,NATO and military spending to fight phantom terrorism.Which is the hole idea behind nopegida besides giving people a pressure relieve valve. Besides,their leadership Lutz Bachmann is criminal,an ex-convict,what is that tell You?
“I disagree with AS that being given the choice between slavery and conversion to Islam is an excuse for slavery.”
I’m not making an excuse for slavery. I’m saying that “slavery” is an inaccurate term for describing the non-citizens in Islamic society, since they were all offered the option of being citizens but refused (and the option stays open to them for the entire duration of their lives for them to take up at any time).
What policy do you propose for dealing with POWs?
“Muslims should see a master-slave relationship as a form of polytheism that violates Islam’s strict monotheism, similar to how Jesus would not bow to Satan, saying ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only’.”
The requirement that POWs convert to Islam in order to become citizens involves them declaring, “There is none worthy of worship except God, and Mohammed is a messenger of God.” In this sense, everyone is being given a chance to be a monotheist. When some explictly decline monotheism despite being offered the chance, are we supposed to pretend they are monotheists anyway? Or should we treat them as what they themselves have declared themselves to be? And if the latter, what status in society do you suggest they receive?
“However, I do believe in a caste society. I think Decebal was opposing it earlier. I don’t know why – surely if Aryanism succeeds Jews will be excluded from having influential positions, for a start, and AS was just now talking about putting Jews in concentration camps, which I support.”
Putting Jews in concentration camps is not a caste society. A caste society implies the intention that every caste is to continue existing in steady-state equilibrium with every other caste (which I agree with Decebal’s opposition towards). Whereas we do not intend that Jews reproduce.
It says on the ‘Immigration’ page ‘Nobody should have to contribute their labour to a country whose institutions they disagree with – to do so is slavery.’ So you are making excuses for slavery.
So why didn’t they move elsewhere? That’s the point of the statement you are quoting.
They weren’t given a choice to move elsewhere. That is why it was slavery.
The standard format was that Mohammed’s troops would announce their arrival at a town and offer everyone the chance to convert, move or prepare to fight before combat began. This is even reflected in the quote we included here:
“In the battle of the Trench, the Muslims and the pagans saw a demonstration of the application of those principles. Whenever he confronted an enemy, he offered him three options:
1. Ali presented Islam to his opponent. He invited him to abandon idolatry and to accept Islam. This invitation made Ali a missionary of Islam in the battlefield itself.
2. If the enemy did not accept Ali’s invitation to accept Islam, he advised him to withdraw from the battle, and not to fight against God and His Messenger. Fighting against them, he warned him, would only bring eternal damnation upon him in the two worlds.
3. If the enemy did not accept the second option also, and refused to withdraw from the battle, then Ali invited him to strike the first blow. Ali himself was never the first to strike at an enemy. “
Is Option 2 not the choice to move elsewhere?
Best i’d leave this here too.
Jews should move to Israel “out of choice” and not fear, said Melchior, whose son works as a rabbi in the Copenhagen synagogue that was attacked.
They’ll do another holocaust to get rid of those Jews who refuse to go to Israel. They will do one in America too.
I am amazed at you people.
On the one hand you write so intelligently. On the other hand you ignore facts of history and facts of race. Were blacks allowed to procreate in NS Germany?
I’ve seen how you gang up on people with different views, so I’m not going to invest any time in providing direct quotes from Hitler about race and Volk. Surely you know what I am talking about.
“I am amazed at you people.”
I’m glad you are.
“On the one hand you write so intelligently.”
“On the other hand you ignore facts of history”
“facts of race”
See here: http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/
and here: http://aryanism.net/politics/white-nationalists/why-race-matters/
and here: http://aryanism.net/culture/aesthetics/human-beauty/
How much more do you want? (And don’t forget the Aryan Diffusion series!)
“Were blacks allowed to procreate in NS Germany?”
“I’ve seen how you gang up on people with different views”
LOL, the WNs deserve much worse than not being treated nicely on the Internet and having their bullshit proved wrong. Those cowards will be in a lot of trouble when they start their so-called “race war” if they can’t handle somebody not taking them seriously or not being diplomatic to them.
Otherwise, we have no problem with non-Aryanist anti-tribalists. We wish they would join us, but there’s no reason we can’t get along…and in fact we do.
“so I’m not going to invest any time in providing direct quotes from Hitler about race and Volk.”
OK? I’m not sure I know what you would prove with these.
“Surely you know what I am talking about.”
“On the other hand you ignore facts of history and facts of race. Were blacks allowed to procreate in NS Germany?”
In addition to the pages Hashtali linked, I suggest you read the ‘Racial Hygiene’ section of this page:
And the first section of this page
Both of these deal specifically with how “blacks” were viewed by NS Germany.