Sign and share:
https://www.change.org/p/1-mio-unterschriften-gegen-pegida-nopegida
More information here:
And yes, I know perfectly well that petitions are meaningless in practice, but at least it’s a symbolic first step. The only numbers which ultimately matter are the number of people willing to place themselves in physical danger to defend their fellow citizens when the far-right violence begins. And even then, a smaller but more fanatical paramilitary group can defeat a larger but less fanatical one:
“Like wolves they threw themselves on the enemy again and again in parties of eight or ten and began steadily to thrash them out of the hall. After five minutes I could see hardly one of them that was not streaming with blood. Then I realized what kind of men many of them were, above all my brave Maurice Hess, who is my private secretary to-day, and many others who, even though seriously wounded, attacked again and again as long as they could stand on their feet. Twenty minutes long the pandemonium continued. Then the opponents, who had numbered seven or eight hundred, had been driven from the hall or hurled out headlong by my men, who had not numbered fifty.” – Adolf Hitler
The SA needs to be ressurected in Germany to fight PEGIDA just like they fought the RFB last time. Contact us if you think you can get it up and running:
http://aryanism.net/about/contact/
The sooner the better, because until then this will continue to happen:
http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/german-mosque-vandalized-with-swastikas-and-racist-graffiti/
and the reputation of the swastika will continue to be sullied.
Such misuse of the swastika is very sad.
Seems to be a typical two way cutting subterfuge,as in their manifesto PEGIDA calls for welcoming war refugees into Germany,considers the current facilities for the housing of immigrants to be inadequate and partly inhuman,advocates for a more decentralized distribution of facilities and fairer allocation of immigrants among the countries of the EU…And wants to facilitate integration of foreigners into German society…Criminal refugees and immigrants should be promptly expelled.(Wikepedia).All of which is not entirely bad.However the key is their call for protection of the “Judeo-Christian German Culture” and calling “Islamism a violent ideology”.And than are far-right types hiding behind the Hakenkreutz morphing Authentic NS,and too much mentioning of “Facilities,facilities and more facilities”
This image might help our side of the campaign.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zN3ubRNo11g/VKtKk32LAZI/AAAAAAAABks/59PsCoNMwNI/w389-h584-no/Christian-Islamic%2BCooperation.jpg
I can also email it anyone if you can’t see or download it from that link.
@Ostmann
“Criminal refugees and immigrants should be promptly expelled.(Wikepedia).All of which is not entirely bad.”
I think you have been reading so much right-wing propaganda you are becoming desensitized to their bullshit. If you don’t want trash in your garden, how is it not bad to dump it in someone else’s garden? An elementary duty of a state is to refuse the temptation to alleviate its own problems by transferring them onto other states. Not only should criminals not be expelled, they should be prevented from leaving even if they wanted to, so that they can’t restart their criminal career elsewhere.
@Miecz
Thanks. The Muslim bloggers, YouTubers, etc. who are trying to reach out to Christians keep emphasizing how Muslims respect Jesus just as much as they respect Mohammed, so they’re already doing their part as they have done consistently through the years. All it takes is for the Christian bloggers, YouTubers, etc. to reciprocate by declaring that Christians respect Mohammed just as much as they respect Jesus, and this whole insanity would be over. So straightforward, yet it doesn’t happen. Instead, there is so much insulting of Mohammed going on by (Judeo-)Christians that it’s no surprise more and more Muslims are gradually getting discouraged and giving up. What else are they supposed to do? Agree with the insults?
Another point that we must keep telling today’s youth about is that Islamophobia was NON-EXISTENT before 9/11. Some of the teenagers out there seem to sincerely believe that Islamophobia has always been around. We can’t blame them for assuming this because they probably have no personal recollection of what the pre-9/11 world was like, but when they hear us talking about a society without Islamophobia, they deride us by claiming we’re talking about something that exists only in our imaginations and which could never be real, when in fact we’re talking about no more than what society was really like as little as 15 years ago!
Hello everybody.
I live in Germany, and I’d like to explain some facts you guys do not now.
The “Swastica” is banned to use in Germany! It is not allowed! This sympol is not allowed to use.
I live here and I have to tell you, that at least 99% of those who demonstrate Prp-Pegida are NO Nazis! Why do they demonstrate?
They demonstrate against the ISLAMIZATION of western germany!
This has nothing to do with “race” but with “religion”. People are afraid of the things, that happen according to IS (islamistic terror-organization) and we don’t want islamic terror such as 9/11 here in Germany. THAT ist, what Pegida stands for!
Please check out this website about the truth: http://www.pi-news.net/ (translate via google-translate, please).
Regards
Claudia
9/11 was done by the Jews and ISIS was created by Israel.
>>LOZ: “9/11 was done by the Jews”
Unquestionably; however, the exact mechanics of it might or might not have involved Muslim/Arab patsies. Allow me to repeat Michael Collins Piper’s theories of how the attack might have been accomplished (as expounded in his book False Flags, available as a free PDF): Perhaps no Muslims were involved (e.g. Rabbi Dov Zakheim’s remote control company did all the dirty work — or perhaps, Mista T’avrim, jews from Arab countries who can pass for Arabs pretended to in fact be Arabs while executing parts of the attack), but perhaps some Arab patsies were used, too (e.g. it was for this reason that the Israeli “”"”"art students’”"”"” were observing the ‘hijackers’ before the attacks).
>>LOZ: “and ISIS was created by Israel.”
I believe this too, but it doesn’t change the fact that the crimes of ISIS are the works of Arabs, however much assistance they may be receiving from the US, Israel, Turkey, whatever.
No doub
>>AS: “All it takes is for the Christian bloggers, YouTubers, etc. to reciprocate by declaring that Christians respect Mohammed just as much as they respect Jesus, and this whole insanity would be over.”
The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists, not people who interpret Mohammed more esoterically (i.e. the way Aryanism.Net does — sadly without much textual support save for the fact that Mohammed outlawed the then-rampant practices of sacrificing children). Can you, as an Aryanist specifically, blame Christians for rejecting a guy who [allegedly] took a 9-year-old wife and [allegedly] engaged in some aggressive warfare, sometimes for mere lucre? Now, to be fair, the Jesus of the Gospels is himself far from perfect in many verses (e.g. endorsing the jewish torah, claiming to be yhwh — we can only hope that jews put these words in his mouth and that the relatively-advanced verses condemning those who tempt children and supporting the dissolution of oppressive families were his genuine words), and these Christians probably wouldn’t touch these issues with a 10-foot jewish nose, but then again Mohammed himself [according to the Koran] endorses the OT.
Aryanism.Net dedicates a blog entry to the vandalization of a mosque and a ZC organization that is reacting to a jew-invented problem. Ok. Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”? (Or, for that matter, why didn’t the earlier Oxford and Rochdale incidents get ANY coverage?). Why has Aryanism.Net made no blog posts demanding compromises of immigrants, only of native Europeans? Keep in mind that Nick Griffin of the BNP exposed the existence of wrongdoing in 2004, but got put on trial twice by fraudster Denis ‘MacShane’ (named by The Jewish Chronicle as “one of the Jewish community’s ‘greatest champions’, and original last name Matyjaszek — don’t know if that’s a jewish name or not, Miecz could tell us) for ‘hate speech’. Also remember that a certain Sue Berelowitz ($50 says she’s a jew) was outraged when she found that investigating officers were profiling Pakistanis and North Africans.
From the report: “By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims…several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist”
Ultimately, teasing out the causes of rape gangs (racial vs. religious vs. cultural causes) is not easy (presumably they’re all interrelated: one factor selects for people with certain characteristics in the other two domains): it’s been noted that the perpetrators are Muslims of various ethnicities, though chiefly Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Eritreans, Somalians. Presumably operative factors include the close-knit-ness of the Muslim community (whereby, just as among the jews, it is taboo to expose the misdeeds of an insider to the outsider government), and their demonization of White women as “whores” (for not letting themselves be subjugated with hijabs). The latter phenomenon is thought to be operative in Norway, in which 100% of rapes last year between unknown people were committed by people of Islamic cultural background. Aryanism.Net should find Muslim contacts in European countries and encourage them to help their neighbors report crimes (particularly those that victimize Whites — in violation of ethno-religious-centrism) to their governments, or, even better, vigilante groups to target gangs that victimize innocent Whites. Ironically, by having interacted with only one Muslim (Afzal, who had to be corrected for his worship of parents [and who so far has not shown he truly understands and repents from this] and who doesn’t advocate reimagining Koranism into Ihsanism) Aryanism seems to be tacitly promoting the stereotype of unenlightened, hyperethnocentric Arabs/South-Asians/Muslims.
^Native Norwegian women have even taken to wearing the hijab just to stay safe from immigrants. Could we get a “I’ll walk with you” campaign of hijabed Muslim women to escort them?
@GermanGirlFromCologne
We Know this already, we know your all Zionist right-wingers, as it says on your link….
>I believe this too, but it doesn’t change the fact that the crimes of ISIS are the works of Arabs, however much assistance they may be receiving from the US, Israel, Turkey, whatever.
No-one’s disputing that there are bad versions of Islam or bad Muslims. We do not support ISIS. But neither do many Muslims. If Muslims were one homogenous unit all with the same beliefs and all with the same interpretation of Islam, then they would all support ISIS. But instead, we have a civil war with many Muslims fighting against ISIS.
Also note that the area ISIS controls are desert regions, which is exactly where we predict the most Turanian blood would be concentrated, and they haven’t managed to gain much influence in those parts of Syria where the people have a more Aryan appearance.
>The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists, not people who interpret Mohammed more esoterically (i.e. the way Aryanism.Net does — sadly without much textual support save for the fact that Mohammed outlawed the then-rampant practices of sacrificing children).
And yet you will find if you do the research that there are far more esoteric Muslims than esoteric Christians, and that esoteric Islam has always been a very prominent movement. Islam has always been a diverse movement – much more diverse than Western Christianity. Here is an example of a sect I only found out about recently (relevant to my moniker):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brethren_of_Purity
‘Can you, as an Aryanist specifically, blame Christians for rejecting a guy who [allegedly] took a 9-year-old wife’
‘Mohammed outlawed the then-rampant practices of sacrificing children’
Why would someone who abuses children outlaw the sacrifice of children? By the way, Christians living at the same time were marrying even younger children, so it doesn’t make sense to say that this is a specifically Muslim problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent#Traditional_attitudes
From the article: ‘In the 12th century, Gratian, the influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14 but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. There were authorities that said that consent could take place earlier. Marriage would then be valid as long as neither of the two parties annulled the marital agreement before reaching puberty, or if they had already consummated the marriage. It should be noted that Judges honored marriages based on mutual consent at ages younger than 7, in spite of what Gratian had said; there are recorded marriages of 2 and 3 year olds.’
By the way, if it were up to me the age of consent would be set at puberty, since this is when the body is biologically ready for sex.
‘engaged in some aggressive warfare’
What’s wrong with engaging in warfare against the barbarian to impose a superior culture?
>Aryanism.Net dedicates a blog entry to the vandalization of a mosque and a ZC organization that is reacting to a jew-invented problem. Ok. Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”? (Or, for that matter, why didn’t the earlier Oxford and Rochdale incidents get ANY coverage?).
Why are there no mentions on the Islamophobic sites about the much more widespread abuse in the Catholic Church? Why do they call for a defence of traditional Judeo-Christian values instead of dismantling the Catholic Church?
>From the report: “By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims…several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist”
It is true that the Jews have been pushing the myth of equality for years. But why have so many Jews also been involved in the anti-immigrant, anti-Islam movement (see our ZC list for many examples)? The Jews are setting up a reaction in the form of ethnic and inter-religious conflict by pushing the myth of equality and then encouraging the alternatives to this myth that will achieve this, which is bound to fail eventually because it is so absurd, whereas we offer a more scientific alternative that will not cause inter-ethnic conflict and not lead to the downfall of society.
>Ironically, by having interacted with only one Muslim (Afzal, who had to be corrected for his worship of parents [and who so far has not shown he truly understands and repents from this] and who doesn’t advocate reimagining Koranism into Ihsanism) Aryanism seems to be tacitly promoting the stereotype of unenlightened, hyperethnocentric Arabs/South-Asians/Muslims.
He’s not the only Muslim we’ve interacted with.
@Caleb
“Unquestionably; however, the exact mechanics of it might or might not have involved Muslim/Arab patsies”
If that is indeed true, don’t forget that the people who suffered and continue to suffer reprecussions from 9/11 were not just the direct victims of the attacks and their loved ones, but Muslims worldwide (both directly and indirectly).
“I believe this too, but it doesn’t change the fact that the crimes of ISIS are the works of Arabs, however much assistance they may be receiving from the US, Israel, Turkey, whatever.”
Regardless of the ethnic demographics of ISIS (don’t forget they have foreign supporters also), most of their victims are Arabs and Muslims (of course, there are plenty of others also). And don’t forget that most of the people fighting against them are also Muslim (whether Arab or Kurdish). (This goes out to everybody, not just to Caleb.)
“The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists, not people who interpret Mohammed more esoterically”
I prefer the intuition to esotericism. While most people may not have the intelligence, time or interest to dwelve into Mohameddan esotericism, there are plenty of people who are intuitively noble and whose emotions resonate with Mohammed’s intuitively. I do not call such people Koranists. Koranists are people who are solely or largely dependent on the Koran because they are traditionalists without noble emotion of their own.
“(i.e. the way Aryanism.Net does — sadly without much textual support save for the fact that Mohammed outlawed the then-rampant practices of sacrificing children)”
We don’t do that because our point is not to waste our time in esotericism. We could if we wanted to, but we don’t.
“who [allegedly] took a 9-year-old wife”
http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
“[allegedly] engaged in some aggressive warfare”
Though warfare is unfortunate, it is part of reality. Anybody who wishes to establish a noble society will have to use violence at some point or another. (That is why Savitri Devi said that Men Against Time (i.e. us) possess both Sun and Lightning.)
Interesting play on words there, Caleb. All warfare is aggressive, so either you enjoy being redundant or you’re insinuating something else also.
And what’s up with your “[allegedly]“? If you know it’s not true, say it!
“sometimes for mere lucre”
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
“claiming to be yhwh”
Strictly speaking, he said he is one with his Father (which he also prayed that his followers may be one day too). Who you believe his Father is is another matter.
“Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”?”
Our enemies cover that kind of stuff sufficiently. We have other ground to cover (though that is indeed sickening).
Also, these abuses were denounced by Muslim community leaders and everyday Muslims. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal#Reactions
Again, interesting wordplay. You differentiate between “English” and “people of Pakistani heritage”, though one could be both English and of Pakistani heritage. I’m curious as to the heritage of many of those children. Maybe they too were of Pakistani heritage?
“Why has Aryanism.Net made no blog posts demanding compromises of immigrants, only of native Europeans?”
We demand folkish unity from everybody, not compromises (another word for tolerance). I hoped this was made clear a long time ago: http://aryanism.net/politics/multiethnic-society/. I gues not….
And once again you have an interesting choice of words! ANYBODY born in Europe is NATIVE European, but I don’t think you were refering to children of immigrants.
“Ultimately, teasing out the causes of rape gangs (racial vs. religious vs. cultural causes) is not easy (presumably they’re all interrelated: one factor selects for people with certain characteristics in the other two domains)”
Simply put, it’s caused by inferior (i.e. non-Aryan) genes, so our primary concern should be targeting inferior people.
As for the next few claims you made, such as 100% percent of rapes in Norway last year being perpetrated by Muslims, I looked some of these up and must ask you: what are your sources? The only ones I’ve found are from dubious sources which don’t cite their material. (And if I’m not mistaken, the same claim has been circulating for a few years, which is extremely unlikely.)
“Aryanism.Net should find Muslim contacts in European countries and encourage them to help their neighbors report crimes”
If there are any Muslims out there who want to help us out and fight crime, especially by setting up neighbourhood patrols instead of reporting crimes to the polices, you can contact us here: http://aryanism.net/about/contact/.
“(particularly those that victimize Whites — in violation of ethno-religious-centrism”
Why especially those that victimize “whites”? A criminal is a criminal, regardless of whom he targets. Or are you more interested in the security of “whites”?
“Ironically, by having interacted with only one Muslim (Afzal, who had to be corrected for his worship of parents [and who so far has not shown he truly understands and repents from this] and who doesn’t advocate reimagining Koranism into Ihsanism) Aryanism seems to be tacitly promoting the stereotype of unenlightened, hyperethnocentric Arabs/South-Asians/Muslims.”
I personally was not around when Afzal was around, so I really don’t know what this is about.
However, we currently have one Muslim party founder and leader, Abu Haydar, of a largely Muslim party: http://aryanism.net/blog/decebal/die_faziste_wehrmacht/. He is one of the greatest guys I’ve ever met and of a personal quality others (like you) will never be.
Also, there are a number of people here (myself, AS, Ossendowski and some others) who have never converted to Islam officially but are captivated by the beauty, nobility and spirituality of Mohammedanism that we’re the next closest thing to it.
If you have nothing of quality to add, but want to “politely” repeat the same WN trash found all over the Internet, don’t waste our time.
Khosro Shohani,
If you are seeing this, know that I am not ignoring your contact forms. Your email address no longer functions (I think the inbox is full), so send us a message from a functioning email address and I’ll respond as soon as possible.
“The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists, not people who interpret Mohammed more esoterically ”
Yeah, and 99% of Christians are non-Gnostics who don’t interpret Jesus esoterically. Few of them have any respect for Mohammad at all, and many actually attack him.
AS is saying that the world would be a much better place if Christians stopped being so damn Islamophobic, because then Christians and Muslims could get along and eventually work together to defeat Jewry.
“Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”?”
The same reason we don’t have posts about the number of English people of “white” heritage who abuse children? The same reason we don’t have posts about the 21,500 children in the UK who were sexually abused in 2011-2012? The same reason we don’t have a post every time a crime gets committed somewhere on Earth?
Surely it should be obvious though, since you were able to see the other post was related to a ZC organization. Child abuse isn’t ZC. The fact that you’re riled up by crimes committed by people simply because of their heritage shows that the Zionist media who ran that story is doing a good job training you to be a ZC reactionary. Also, the fact that you care more about the criminals’ heritage than the fact that children are being abused shows you have no compassion.
“Also remember that a certain Sue Berelowitz ($50 says she’s a jew) was outraged when she found that investigating officers were profiling Pakistanis and North Africans.”
Open your eyes mate, this is a textbook example of a statement designed to create a ZC backlash. She is a Zionist agent whose (carefully chosen) words were (intentionally) published in the Zionist media in order to (quite successfully) cause racists like yourself to lash out
You don’t trust Jews and you don’t trust the media, but you are still allowing yourself to be manipulated by them. You should be more outraged that Zionists are playing divide and conquer to pit non-Jews against each other.
In your other post you said you re-read the entire site… I guess you missed these pages?
http://aryanism.net/politics/multiethnic-society/
http://aryanism.net/politics/multiethnic-society/is-race-the-new-class/
http://aryanism.net/politics/anti-zionism-basics/the-jewish-lie/
http://aryanism.net/politics/uniting-anti-zionists/
“several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist”
Yep, and instead of being scared to be racist, the above statement has encouraged racists like you to show your true beliefs! Exactly as the Jews have planned.
“Why has Aryanism.Net made no blog posts demanding compromises of immigrants, only of native Europeans?”
I guess you ‘forgot’ to read this page as well?
“it should not be a discussion of what the immigrants must get used to, nor of what non-immigrants must accomodate, nor of how to permit everything at the same time. It should rather be a discussion of how we can _all_ take this chance to give up our own ignoble cultural habits and rejoin as a more noble society.”
http://aryanism.net/politics/economics/immigration/
“or, even better, vigilante groups to target gangs that victimize innocent Whites.”
No. We encourage communities to protect innocent community members regardless of ethnicity or religion.
“Aryanism seems to be tacitly promoting the stereotype of unenlightened, hyperethnocentric Arabs/South-Asians/Muslims.”
Are you illiterate? If not, I suggest you re-read your posts, because you are the only one promoting that stereotype.
Speaking on behalf of the Ummah an Nabi (Nation of the Prophet -peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him),
We Muslims do not intend the forced Islamization of anything that is outside of the fold of Islam as we are forbidden by Allaah (SWT) to force people into our own religion.
These people who attribute such things to my religion should think, if we were forcing our religion, why hasn’t there been any reports of Muslims forcibly trying to convert non Muslims? And if Islam were spread by the sword, oh then the likes of Yusuf Estes and the others who willfully reverted to the religion were also forced? Take note, much of those who reverted weren’t forced at all. In fact, if a Muslim wants to invite a non Muslim into the fold of Islam, we have a concept called “Da’wah” which means invitation.
“The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists”
How uneducated should a person be to express an opinion as this? Read the Qur’an. The son of Mary (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is mentioned a lot, his mother (may Allaah be pleased with her) has her own chapter (Surah Maryam).
If much of you have noticed, many of those who support Islamophobia are either JEWS or non jews who support JEWRY. The likes of geller, and the EDL and le pen. The similarity between them is that they are tied to jewry.
@GermanGirlFromCologne
We agree that PEGIDA is not a National Socialist group. National Socialists are enemies of Jews. Muslims are also enemies of Jews. Therefore National Socialists and Muslims are allies. We are National Socialists, which is why we are against PEGIDA.
Germany today has an extremely pro-Israel foreign policy, whereas most of the countries which do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state (and support Palestine reclaiming ALL the territory currently under Israeli control) are Islamic countries. This is why greater Islamic influence in Germany would be a good thing.
Germany today puts people in prison if they dare to be skeptical towards the supposed ‘Holocaust’, whereas Islamic schools teach that the ‘Holocaust’ never happened. This is why greater Islamic influence in Germany would be a good thing.
You mentioned the swastika. It is banned in Germany, but it is a beloved symbol in many Islamic countries because they recognize Hitler as the greatest hero of the 20th century who fought side by side with them against Jews and Western colonialism. This is why greater Islamic influence in Germany would be a good thing.
Please read this page:
http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-islam/
If Hitler had won WWII, Germans growing up in the post-war Third Reich would look upon Christianity and Mohammedanism as two closely related religions which joined forces to defeat Judaism, fulfilling the ancient prophecy. This didn’t happen, but we must try to make it happen in our time.
@Caleb
“The problem is that 99%+ of the Muslims that express respect for Jesus are Koranists”
99% of Christians are Tanakhists, similarly. People in general are misguided; we know this and we can deal with this later. But what’s important for now is Christian-Mohammedan solidarity ASAP, which requires gestures of respect from both sides. In fact if we want to encourage Muslims to question the Koran, the best way to do so is by affirming the personality of Mohammed and pointing out that he never followed the Koran himself but rather relied on direct communication with God to adapt revelations constantly to suit strategic circumstances and stay one step ahead of his enemies’ attempts to psyche him out, so that all who sincerely wish to emulate Mohammed should be doing the same. But how can you encourage Muslims to question the Koran by insulting Mohammed? (Similarly, the correct way to encourage Christians to question the Tanakh is by affirming the personality of Jesus and hence focusing on what he taught, not by insulting Jesus.)
“Can you, as an Aryanist specifically, blame Christians for rejecting a guy who [allegedly] took a 9-year-old wife and [allegedly] engaged in some aggressive warfare, sometimes for mere lucre?”
I certainly can. What you call mere lucre, I call siphoning money out of the usury network. (It is common knowledge that Mohammed lived very frugally himself and gave to charity almost all the extra money he had that was not needed as war funds.) Usury is the aggression; all warfare against it is retaliatory, and therefore an ethical duty. As for Aisha, her own writings describe the kindness with which Mohammed always treated her. By the way, Aisha was an individual, so please use her name instead of calling her “a 9-year-old” as if all 9-year-olds are interchangeable. Mohammed, being honourable, viewed Aisha as an individual. You, being honourless, view Aisha as “a 9-year-old”. That alone shows who gets it and who doesn’t.
“Aryanism.Net dedicates a blog entry to the vandalization of a mosque and a ZC organization that is reacting to a jew-invented problem. Ok. Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”?”
Because nobody is calling for rape – it’s either rape (no consent) or it’s not (consent); we do not use such vague terms as “sexual abuse” – to become government policy. But the far-right is calling for demolition of mosques and violence against Muslims to become government policy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhAM54OB8k
The same point was already covered here:
The quickest way to counter WN attempts to use petty crimes for their propaganda fuel is to point out that they are complaining about actions that are already illegal and which nobody is suggesting legalizing, so their complaints are redundant. By calling for action against entire ethnic groups in response to a crime committed by an individual, however, they are demanding no less than the punishment of innocent people for the deeds of the guilty.
http://aryanism.net/politics/white-nationalists/
“Why has Aryanism.Net made no blog posts demanding compromises of immigrants”
Because it’s already on the main site.
What immigrants can do:
1) Voluntarily renounce citizenship/residency of your former country, even if this is not legally required to obtain citizenship/residency in your new country. Discard all national flags and other national symbols of your former country.
2) Become fluent in the official language of your new country as quickly as possible. Speak only this language in public, and whenever possible at home also. This language, not the language of the country from which you emigrated, should be the first language of your offspring.
3) If subjected to violence or intimidation, do not relocate. Such tactics are aimed at pressuring you to move from your home; by moving, you indicate to the far-right that their tactics are effective and thus encourage them to use the same tactics on others. Stay put, be trained and equipped to defend yourself (purchase firearms and ammunition if legal) and seek support from fair-minded people in your community.
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What both immigrants and non-immigrants can do:
6) Make an effort to socialize across denominational lines. Identify foremost with your locality, be it a neighbourhood, a town, etc.. Use the pronoun “we”/”us”/”our” to refer to this locality. Be a regular customer of local small businesses. Donate to and volunteer at local charities. Be prepared to physically defend fellow members of your local community against violence by far-right gangs, ideally by forming neighbourhood patrols (which can also do peaceful community work).
7) Remind others that these times of economic hardship are ultimately a test of character, in which the cowardly will increasingly preach division while the heroic will insist on goodwill in spite of all. Those who fail this test will be those who allow the hardship to defeat them, that they choose the coward’s road. Those who triumph will be those who pull together and compensate with spiritual rapport what we lack in material security.
http://aryanism.net/politics/economics/immigration/
“Nick Griffin of the BNP exposed the existence of wrongdoing in 2004, but got put on trial twice”
Next you’ll be talking about Geert Wilders (Jew) being put on trial. Being put on trial makes politicians look edgy and cool to useful idiot reactionaries like yourself. That’s the reason for putting them on trial: to make them more popular as per the Zionist script of a scheduled right-wing backlash. You are being herded, Caleb.
“it’s been noted that the perpetrators are Muslims of various ethnicities”
those who wish to deceive us can use a wholly factual presentation to do so, simply by reporting some facts and omitting others. Nothing they report need be false for the overall picture to be misleading. For example, by feeding us only stories of chaos and incompetence in a particular place or by a particular denominational group, they can instill correspondingly negative prejudices towards that place or group.
http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/empiricism-vs-rationalism/
You are falling for it, Caleb.
@Decebal
“http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm”
This article was written by a coward. Whoever is so intimidated by Islamophobes that they feel a need to debate Aisha’s age have already lost the argument, since it implies that Mohammed’s ethicality is contingent on Aisha’s age. We must represent the position that Mohammed was ethical irrespective of Aisha’s age, and that what is unethical is one age group telling another that their own wishes somehow don’t count.
Please check our this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QCaH7Pt0VY
Obviously, you don’t understand, that the situation in Europe is quite different to the political situation in the USA.
We have really big immigration from islamic countries since WW2. This would not be a problem, if only intelligent, smart, nice and friedly people would come to live here. Fact is – most of them are not lots of them muslims behave in a bad way towards native Germans, as they bring violence, drugs and their religion, which they want to spread here including no rights for woman and if they could, they would treat all non-muslim Germans as “Dhimmi.”Slaves.
They want the “sharia” law in Germany. They behave as if they wohld own us. White girls are offended, because of their German origin, they are raped, German boys are beaten up, also offended. Most of these muslim people have less education, most do not work but achive social welfare for themselves and their 5 to 10 kids, which is quite much money.
I myself am a Christian German, and I was 1 time robbed and 2 times sexually attacked by muslims.
Rich people do not have these problems, as they live in gated communities, their children visit private universities, and there are those “linke presse” – people, who say, pegida people would be racists. They obviously want to be the friends of criminal muslims, because they are mentally insane – or because they hope …(?) I don’t know, why they behave like that.
So we have something in common with the jews in Israel, because they also have their problems with muslim terror.
The jews are our frieds, they are not enemies! We don’t want woman in burkas here in Germany, nor the sharia and IS-terror.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So you see, it is not about “race” but religion: This man writes pro pegida as a German, even though he is of turkish origin:
http://www.deutschland-von-sinnen.de/
@GermanGirlFromCologne
No, You obviously haven’t read anything on this site to say anything about us.
“So we have something in common with the jews in Israel, because they also have their problems with muslim terror. The jews are our frieds, they are not enemies! We don’t want woman in burkas here in Germany, nor the sharia and IS-terror.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
You seem not too look into your enemies enemy “the Jew”, let me tell you after WW1, and WW2, Jewish Capitalism, and Marxism raped your lands, stole your resources, made almost everyone impoverished, so much for them
We condemn the acts of any degenerate people, but what some of them being Muslim have to do with it? If five Christian Germans raped 10 school girls, you would never say their Christianity made them do it, nor would you ever say all Christian men will rape schoolgirls, but why do have to overreact when their Muslim, you obviously know 0 about Islam to go say Muslim men will rape all woman and beat all men, whats the heck is wrong with burqas, its clothing for goodness sakes, not fire, and plus their not made out animal fur or skin or any of that sadistic crap that westerners like to wear, forcing woman not to wear burqas is violence, and that is not tolerated. When a Catholic Nun does this its dedication, how would you fell if a nun was forced not to live the way she wanted to live, because the “Media” thought it was oppressive, you would consider that to be violence so would I.
http://aryanism.net/religion/mohammedanism/ and http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-islam/ anyway we believe Islam has corrupted by Jews just like Christianity , however you are just a pawn for jews for they wish both Muslims and Christians would kill each other off for their world Zion project. I doubt you’ll read this, even if you do you’ll never learn that everything a Jew touches turns to crap
As an Iranian and as an ex-moslem I should tell you that ; Islam and the spirit of Aryanism are radically different and even incompatible in their essence , we’ve always in Iran struggled to preserve our pre-Islamic Aryan traditions which don’t fit in Islamic laws , fortunately we haven’t lost our ethnic identity like egyptians or indigenous people of Anatolia prior to the Turko-Arabic invasion , but I understand the Germans’ concern as to oppose islamization of their country by the very same hordes of invaders, in other words they don’t want their beatiful cities to end up having the same fortune of Constantinople or Cyprus , and thousands of other previously non-moslem cities across west- and central Asia, one should be aware that :
Islamic God is identical to Jewish old testament Yahwa and shares 99 % dogmas with the original Hebraic religion,
and also this religion needs animal sacrifice to appease their God ( contrary to the vegetarianism and respect for animals)
and since Mohammad himself had been a merchant , Islam favours Capitalism and money making (Contrary to National socialism)
well , having read your writing , you don’t have to praise such a Semitic religion like Islam , Aryanism is supposed to unite people through nobility and “I believe your praising a cruel God like Allah or defending a personage like Mohammad is totally irrelevant and even irritating to Aryanism ,
http://meta.tagesschau.de/id/93930/paris-taeter-nach-anschlag-auf-zeitung-auf-der-flucht
>Obviously, you don’t understand, that the situation in Europe is quite different to the political situation in the USA.
Actually, I do understand it because I had Muslim friends from Cologne (Kurds) and I can assure you that they were very far from being criminals. On the contrary, they had even rejected violence against animals and became vegan.
>So we have something in common with the jews in Israel, because they also have their problems with muslim terror.
The ‘terror’ you speak of is a righteous and fully justified struggle to free their homeland from an invader.
But anyway, since Abu Haydar is an actual Muslim, he is the main person you should be talking to in this discussion. Let us all heed his wisdom.
@Andalucian Warrior
“The ‘terror’ you speak of is a righteous and fully justified struggle to free their homeland from an invader.”
I guess she would consider the treaty of versailles, and the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe to be counter terror as well…
@The Iranian
“As an Iranian and as an ex-moslem I should tell you that ; Islam and the spirit of Aryanism are radically different and even incompatible in their essence , we’ve always in Iran struggled to preserve our pre-Islamic Aryan traditions which don’t fit in Islamic laws , fortunately we haven’t lost our ethnic identity like egyptians or indigenous people of Anatolia prior to the Turko-Arabic invasion”
We don’t care about ethnic identity for that is just slavish since you had never ‘chosen’ this identity
“since Mohammad himself had been a merchant , Islam favours Capitalism and money making”
No, being a a merchant doesn’t make you favor Capitalism, it just means you like to sell your goods which fine, as long as you don’t exploit anyone, were not Communists for goodness sake.
@GermanGirlFromCologne
“We have really big immigration from islamic countries since WW2.”
So what?
“This would not be a problem, if only intelligent, smart, nice and friedly people would come to live here.”
Well, the vast majority of those I know certainly are. I’m from Munich btw.
“Fact is – most of them are not lots of them muslims behave in a bad way towards native Germans as they bring violence”
So do some native Germans. Every group has its bad apples, which is why we don’t judge people by their identity but solely by their personality.
“drugs”
…are strictly prohibited in Islam.
“no rights for woman”
A really tired stereotype:
http://islamswomen.com/articles/do_muslim_women_have_rights.php
If that doesn’t convince you, just ask some Muslim women for their opinions. While we’re at it, what do you think about the objectification of women common in Western societies?
“and if they could, they would treat all non-muslim Germans as “Dhimmi.”Slaves.”
‘Dhimmi’ translates to ‘protected person’. Anyway, what’s the basis for this assumption?
“Most of these muslim people have less education, most do not work but achive social welfare for themselves and their 5 to 10 kids, which is quite much money.”
[Citation needed]
“Rich people do not have these problems, as they live in gated communities, their children visit private universities, and there are those “linke presse” – people, who say, pegida people would be racists. They obviously want to be the friends of criminal muslims, because they are mentally insane – or because they hope …(?) I don’t know, why they behave like that.”
Are you serious? If yes, you must be living in a different Germany than I do. I’ve never even heard of gated communities here.
I won’t bother to comment on the final two paragraphs, my stance on that should be clear.
@AS
“This article was written by a coward. Whoever is so intimidated by Islamophobes that they feel a need to debate Aisha’s age have already lost the argument, since it implies that Mohammed’s ethicality is contingent on Aisha’s age. We must represent the position that Mohammed was ethical irrespective of Aisha’s age, and that what is unethical is one age group telling another that their own wishes somehow don’t count.”
Good point, also for the reasons you pointed out to Caleb. I’ll keep it in mind from now on.
@Alex Alexander et al.
I appreciate the fact that you all have tried to look at Aryanism from (moral) nobility point of view and I’ve found most of your writings on this site quite authentic , but I wonder why you should insist justifying everything about Islam even though many historic /theological/ethical facts about this religion contradict the very noble precepts you have advocated as Aryan virtues ,such as:
-Gnostic spiritual attitude versus materialistic dogmatic worship of Yahwe/Allah
-Freedom versus slavery and enslavement of human beings as it is allowed by Judeo-Islamic laws
-Vegetarianism versus excessive meat eating and ritualistic animal sacrifice as it is praised and required in Judeo-Islam
-(noble)Universalism versus chosen-ness as it is believed in all Abrahamic religions regardless of any noble justification thereof.
-Working virtues (Arbeit) versus mercantile ,profit oriantated (cunning money making attitude) prevalent in Judeo-Islam
-respecting the natural body versus circumcision in Judeo-Islam
and by the way there is nothing wrong about national identity, there is no ethical justification that indigenous people of a given country should renounce their cultural identity to please heterogeneous people
All Abrahamic religions may have virtues too, but Aryanism is much older than all of them and it is rooted in a transcendental source which has been found among early Christians and Manicheans as well as Cathars ,
whereas Abrahamic religions have always forced their religions on local populations and obliged them to worship their jealous God (Yahwah /Allah)
Aya Sopia Mosque used to be Santa Sophia Cathedral and believe me the conversion wasn’t a voluntary process.
@Ossendowski
Ich glaube, ehrlich gesagt nicht, dass es noch sehr lange dauern wird, bis wir schreckliche Zustände wie in Paris auch in Deutschland haben werden, was auch in den Medien gesagt wird. Sehr viele Menschen denken, dass es nur noch eine Frage der Zeit ist, bis ein derartiges Attentat auch bei uns zu beklagen ist. Offensichtlich leben Sie und ich in zwei verschiedenen Deutschlands. Ich habe absichtlich “gatet communities” geschrieben, da der gemeine Amerikaner sich europäische Verhältnisse anders nicht vorstellen kann und es zu kompliziert wäre, ihm Hartz IV und den Begriff “Gutmenschentum”, “Kulturbereicherer” oder “Schere zwischen Arm und Reich” zu erklären.
Wir wissen beide was gemeint ist: Oberschicht incl. Politiker”kaste”, denen das, was auf der Straße passiert ziemlich egal ist, weil sie in anderen Stadtteilen leben als die Unterschicht. Sicherlich sind Sie schon einmal in Neukölln gewesen? Oder in Köln-Ossendorf? Oder in Essen-Altenessen?
Dann verstehen Sie, was ich meine, oder? Genau da sind die Zentren der radikalisierten Moslems, die von Hartz IV leben und sich gleichzeitig aufführen, als seien sie die Herren der Welt.
Und dass es andere Menschen gibt, die aus islamischen Staaten kommen, weiß ich auch: Dass es z.B. im Iran sehr gebildete und kultivierte Menschen gibt, die selbst von radikalen Religionsfanatikern unterdrückt worden sind und fliehen mussten: Ärzte, Wissenschafter etc.
Die Sorte Moslems, die ich meine, das wissen wir doch beide, dass das eben die ungebildeten und gewalttätigen sind, deren Söhne mit IS liebäugeln und deren Töchter mit 13 Jahren zwangsverheiratet werden. BTW reicht mein Englisch nicht aus, um die Verhältnisse hier adäquat zu schildern, ehrlich gesagt, glaube ich auch nicht, dass es von Interesse ist für die meisten Amerikaner, denn sie haben ja andere Interessen und Probleme.
Ich möchte hier auch gar nichts mehr schreiben, da ich sonst noch vom Verfassungsschutz beobachtet werde, die Aufmachung der Seite hier ist eben – naja, Sie wissen, was ich meine.
Wahrscheinlich ist das eigentliche Problem auch nicht einmal das Thema “Religion”, sondern “Dummheit” und Mangel an Bildung. Die Türkei schickt ihre Unterschicht nach Deutschland, aus Anatolien oder was weiß ich woher, und hier bleibt sie dann. Stecken sogar deutsche Jugendliche teilweise mit ihrer Denkweise an, die dann meinen, als “IS” nur 300 km von unserer Grenze entfernt eine Terroristenausbildung machen zu müssen, wieder zu kommen und dann ?
In ganz Europa ist es so, und dann ? Was soll dieser Spruch: “Dimmy heißt Schutzbefohlener”. Was ist das für ein Schutz, bei dem Menschen mit Kalaschnikovs niedergemetzelt werden? Soll das ein geschmackloser Witz sein? Niemand hier braucht den “Schutz” von gewaltttätigen Terroristen.
BTW verstehe ich diese Seite nicht, muss ich aber auch nicht. Ich lebe in Europa, hier ist die Wiege der Freiheit und Demokratie. Frankreich hat eine Tradition darin diese Freiheit zu verteidigen. 1789 sollte auch für einen gebildeten Amerikaner eine Zahl sein, die er irgendwie zuordnen kann.
Ich verabschliede mich nun von hier und wünsche Ihnen alles Gute. BTW halte ich nicht sehr viel von der “Rassen” – Diskussion, da sie mit dem Demokratie-Gedanken nicht vereinbar ist, sondern konsequent angewendet nur oligarchische Strukturen etablieren würde, die mit unserem Grundgesetz und einer freien Demokratie nicht zu vereinbaren sind.
Claudia
@The Iranian
Islam NOT my specialty, and it is NOT a perfect religion, however we share a common enemy, the Jew…
Modern Christianity (What we call Judeo-Christianity) has problems too, with the connection with Judaism resulting in the gods being the same, also the Judeo-Christian bible is so easily used to justify non-Aryan behaviors http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Kill-Eat-Theology-Revelation/dp/1495109348 what we want to do is create or recreate a new Aryan Bible and Aryan Koran so we can stop the Jewish corruptions because 2-billion people (Muslims and Christians) are misguided, and the Jews want them to kill each other off, we must not start war between the two, rather against the Jew, then we can try too reform the religions.
@Alex , I agree with you” we need an Aryan scripture to have a guideline”, but you know, I am afraid it is the corrupt human nature that is the problem, words and laws and scriptures wont help too much as the saying goes “no one is enslaved without their own consent” a noble nature acts in a noble way naturally , you don’t need to preach a lamb not to eat meat and all noble scriptures can not convince a wolf to become vegetarian,
but we can still try to improve human nature or at least minimise the brutish behaviour though,
@The Iranian
Human Nature is what some need to break from, and what some have already done (ie -Aryans), Aryans are NOT apart of nature, and nature has proven to HATE us “Aryan traits are not – contrary to what Hitler espoused – the work of Nature, but an evolutionary accident that Nature has since been trying to correct. “- http://aryanism.net/philosophy/arya/naturalism-vs-idealism/ Aryans are Ideal, Strong, Elite Warriors, and Non-Aryans (ie. – Natural Humans) are Natural, Weak, Inferior Cowards
@ Alex , I totally agree with you on that , Nature is vile, since it favours the survival of fittest regardless of any ethical value ,evil individuals are more obedient to their brutish natural animal self, but let us be clear as you said” Aryans are ideal” and as such not in existence yet , an Ideal is something to be achieved, some men and women have the transcendental Aryan seed in them that can be developed and grow , the strength of( potentially) Aryan is not of the same nature of natural humanoid( animal -human )since it is not defined as a heartless destructive faculty like in other brutes, but real Aryan strength is a self assured sense of stability to create order and beauty , whereas the humanoid’s ( non-Aryan / animal- human) strength and behaviour is always focused on satisfying his and his tribes’ subjective savage natural needs at any cost ,
we believe they exist just in very, very, very small numbers I consider some people on this website to be Aryans and are could be the only Aryans alive now, other Aryans in 19th and 20th century have Perished like, Adolf Hitler, Savitri Devi, Joseph Goebbels, Schopenhauer, Alfred Rosenberg, Dietrich Eckard, Rudolf Hess, Miguel Serrano, and many more…, but again the will be created and revived some day for Aryans are good leaders and followers.
p.s Also they also made them selves Aryans they were not born that way….
Oh I did not mean to say they were not born that way for all children are born Aryan, but they are Adulterated into Natural Human behaviors – http://aryanism.net/culture/childcare/ but they can be reborn as Aryans. As a child i rejected to eat meat and was forced by my parents…
“Nec enim cuiquam bono mali quidquam evenire potest nec vivo nec mortuo: nothing bad can happen to a good man alive or dead ” as Cicero put it, A real Aryan qua a noble soul never perishes, from the list of Aryans whom you enumerated I specially honour Schopenhauer, you see , many enlightened men and women live a quiet modest life and do not like crowds and populism and look down on politics.
@The Iranian
Good that you learned this, but as I was taking a walk I thought about Nature and her wickedness, I realized it created Man to be a Superior killing machine, so she gave us bipedal bodies and Opposable hands, it thought we’d be forever enslaved to our barbaric ways (It was naïve), but no we discovered farming and learned to thanks too those bipedal bodies and Opposable hands forever it is trying to stop us with Jews (Herders), and is punishing us for discovering not to be slaves. I now pity all non-human animals both prey and predators for they are all slaves to nature and they can do nothing too stop it.
>Und dass es andere Menschen gibt, die aus islamischen Staaten kommen, weiß ich auch: Dass es z.B. im Iran sehr gebildete und kultivierte Menschen gibt, die selbst von radikalen Religionsfanatikern unterdrückt worden sind und fliehen mussten: Ärzte, Wissenschafter etc.
Sie kommen nicht nur aus islamischen Staaten. Sie sind Moslems. Wir wissen dass es gibt Moslems, ‘deren Söhne mit IS liebäugeln und deren Töchter mit 13 Jahren zwangsverheiratet werden’, und wir wollen sie zu vernichten. Aber warum sollen wir die ‘sehr gebildete und kultivierte Menschen’ kampfen? Warum vertreiben sie von unserem Lände? BTW, die Moslems, die ‘Muslim terror’ in Israel begehen sind der Feind von ISIS. Und haben Sie nicht selbst gesagt, dass ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’?
>BTW verstehe ich diese Seite nicht, muss ich aber auch nicht. Ich lebe in Europa, hier ist die Wiege der Freiheit und Demokratie. Frankreich hat eine Tradition darin diese Freiheit zu verteidigen. 1789 sollte auch für einen gebildeten Amerikaner eine Zahl sein, die er irgendwie zuordnen kann.
Und ich verstehe nicht, warum man die Demokratie unterstützen würde. Demokratie heisst nur, dass man die Entscheidung der Mehrheit annehmen mussen, egal ob er wirklich unterstützt es. Nehmen wir an, dass ein islamischen Partei in Deutschland gegründet werde, dass ein Gegend mit einem islamischen Menhrheit gäbe diesen Partei ein Sitz im Reichstag, und der Partei verabschiedet islamischen Gesetze fur diesen Gegend. Würden Sie dann noch Demokratie unterstützen? Nein.
>BTW halte ich nicht sehr viel von der “Rassen” – Diskussion, da sie mit dem Demokratie-Gedanken nicht vereinbar ist, sondern konsequent angewendet nur oligarchische Strukturen etablieren würde, die mit unserem Grundgesetz und einer freien Demokratie nicht zu vereinbaren sind.
Was für total wahnsinniger Quatsch! Wenn Sie glaubt nicht in Rasse, hör auf zu sagen, dass Einwanderer sind Vergewaltiger und Verbrecher! Ja, Islam is kein Rasse sondern eine Religion, aber Sie haben angeklagt Einwanderen von Taten, die haben nichts mit Islam zu tun. Zum Beispiel (als mein Kamerad stellte gnädig vor), dass sie bringen Drogen, obwohl Drogen sind in Islam verboten.
Ausserdem, Demokratie und Rasse sind einfach vereinbar in Ihrem beliebten Israel. Die Mehrheit-Rasse wahlt, die Freiheit von die Minderheit-Rasse zu berauben. So, Demokratie und Rasse sind sicher vereinbar, aber nicht immer Demokratie und Freiheit.
Und schliesslich, ich weiss nicht warum Sie denken, dass wir sind alle Amerikaner. Wir haben hier Englander, Deutscher, Kanadier, und sogar Thailänder. Nicht so viel Amerikaner.
@The Iranian
>Vegetarianism versus excessive meat eating and ritualistic animal sacrifice as it is praised and required in Judeo-Islam
What about vegetarian Muslim sects such as the Qarmatians? You mentioned a vegetarian Christian group (Cathars) with approval, so why shouldn’t we approve of groups like he Qarmatians?
>(noble)Universalism versus chosen-ness as it is believed in all Abrahamic religions regardless of any noble justification thereof.
Islam is universal. Anyone can become Muslim regardless of ethnicity and there should be in theory no ethnic or tribal divisions within the Ummah.
>Working virtues (Arbeit) versus mercantile ,profit oriantated (cunning money making attitude) prevalent in Judeo-Islam
Usury is banned in Islam.
>respecting the natural body versus circumcision in Judeo-Islam
We don’t respect the natural body. That isn’t our reason for opposing circumcision. Also, circumcision was a pre-Islamic custom. Not all Muslims believe in circumcision.
https://www.facebook.com/muslimsagainstcirc
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/did-you-know-prophet-muhammad-wasnt-circumcised/
@Alex , very interesting ,( I apologize for my passion for philosophy which might seem irrelevant to this post),
early Gnostics believed an evil God (Demiurge) created this phenomenal world which was an original error( coinciding with original sin) that led to an absurd and unjust world in which creatures have to suffer and feed on each other to survive,
but the spark of divine emanation(Sophia=wisdom) in some humans struggle to return to the source(Gnosis=knowledge) and emancipate the entrapped souls in this dark matter world,
agriculture /farming should be considered an effort to oppose and fight against the cruel natural food chain,
civilization and culture started from agriculture when men refused to eat flesh ,
yes our attitude must be pity towards brute-humans since they are slaves in their essence ,
@Andalucian Warrior
We don’t oppose circumcision in itself. If someone wants to be circumcised, why should he be prohibited from it? What we oppose is PARENTS being allowed to make the decision to circumcise CHILDREN. We similarly oppose parents imposing their will on children in any other way.
AS – Wasn’t what I said left open to that idea? I’ll have you know that I’m circumcised by choice my good sir.
@Andalucian Warrior
You said to The Iranian: “That isn’t our reason for opposing circumcision.” This makes it sound like we do indeed oppose circumcision, merely not for the reason that The Iranian assumed. “That isn’t our reason…” suggests that we do have (some other) reason to oppose circumcision. I am saying that we don’t.
@Andalucian Warrior
“Wasn’t what I said left open to that idea? I’ll have you know that I’m circumcised by choice my good sir.”
Uhh…ok, Too much information don’t you think?
>Uhh…ok, Too much information don’t you think?
I’ve seen worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJj4wbmAhk&t=1m27s
@Andalucian Warrior , A I said Islam is a religion(not a race or ethnicity ) and like all religions has many interpretations ,
I believe due to some common political views with Islam you have been carried away as to justify everything about this religion , and your arguments to refute the points I’ve made are selective and through exceptions rather than dealing with main stream Islam , regarding Qarmatians and other sects such Shias(Alawites,Alavis Ismailis .. ), main stream Islam is very cruel and condemn them as heretics and during the history mainstream Islam has carried out many atrocities against heretic sects , you chose to overlook the ritualistic animal sacrifice or the fact that in Islam it is believed that only moslems are favoured by their jealous allah which is the same as the notion of Chosen-people in Judaism ,
Islam has strong sense of tribalism( like Judaism) which is in contradiction to universalism ,
yes Usury is banned in Islam but Islam loves commerce and money making with no limit at all , Islam is very materialistic and even the afterlife reward and punishment is through business like accounting .
In mainstream Islam it is believed that all the nature and people are created to serve the moslems (the Goyim notion)
In Islam it is not allowed to change one’s religion once you are moslem and if a moslem converted to other religions then he/she is liable to punishment ,
You also chose to ignore the fact that Islamists (Turko-Arabic)hordes invaded previously Greek and Persian lands such as Anatolia and Cyprus ,Azarbaijan.. violently and forced the local greek-persian -armenian populations to convert to Islam .
and Islam does oblige all men to be circumcise, no kidding,
also Islam require daily humiliation (prayers) to show their humble obedience to Allah otherwise it is considered a sin,
now, I try to respect peaceful moslems , but please dont try to justify the absurd and ignorant characteristics of Islam with childish arguments ,
By the way Islam is the most similar religion to orthodox Judaism.
No-one’s saying there are no problems in mainstream Islam. I just don’t think it’s any worse than mainstream Christianity.
>your arguments to refute the points I’ve made are selective and through exceptions rather than dealing with main stream Islam
But exceptions are all I need to prove that we shouldn’t be condemning all Muslims or Islam as a whole. We shouldn’t condemn them all because there are exceptions. Does this not make sense?
>please dont try to justify the absurd and ignorant characteristics of Islam with childish arguments
And please don’t restate the same arguments (e.g. that Islam is obsessed with wealth) after I’ve disproven them. If you have indeed came across Muslim populations who are wealth-obsessed, that is likely to be a racial characteristic of that population, not something coming from the religion.
@Andalucian Warrior, as far as I am concerned you haven’t refuted any of my arguments (not even the circumcision point with all unnecessary digressions you made about it) , and I hope an objective non-moslem could be the judge of it,
Don’t take me wrong I dont condemn peaceful moslems , I just say Islam can not be coupled with Aryanism due to its many incompatibilities it shows against Aryanism virtues,
I believe Aryans shouldn’t humiliate themselves to worship ego-centric, pompous Allah and they must not give up their knowledge loving faculty
Aryans should evaluate virtues and vices based on ethical criteria in a rational way instead of judging everything through blind ignorant Islamic dogmas (it is not allowed to doubt the religious dogmas whether it be unjust or not),
Aryans should condemn greed and consider capitalistic tendencies as a vice ( are you really a national socialist?)
It is true that obsession with accumulation of wealth is partly a racial characteristic and it is true of all Semitic people i.e, Arabs ,Hebrews and Mohammad was a merchant and loved commerce and money making and wealth and therefore his profession has influenced Islam to a great extent which is ok but he was not a National Socialist kind of guy,
with all critics I have made you only gave me a series of personal anecdotes about your circumcision experience!! without tackling the issue whether it be a cruel mutilation or not,( with your argument even sickening piercing should be ok)
you still are silent to prove to me how the ritualistic animal sacrifice (a rule in islamic law) could fit in the Aryanism values.
this website is supposed to be about Aryanism but I wonder why on earth you should spend so much energy to defend Islam the way religious bigots do?