A review of refugee resettlement by numbers

While we have since last year already covered the laudable settlement of much larger numbers of refugees (especially in proportion to their existing populations) by countries as such as Lebanon and Jordan than by considerably richer EU countries:

On a more serious note, the level of dishonesty among rightists on the issue is staggering. One of the most common talking points I hear from rightists is the bald-faced lie that only Western countries are required to take in refugees. In fact, 86% of all current refugees are taken in by non-Western countries. Lebanon alone (citizen population 4 million) has taken in over a million refugees in recent years ie. 20% of its population are refugees. Jordan (citizen population 6.5 million) has taken in more than 2.6 million refugees ie. 40% of its population are refugees.

In comparison, the far-right notion that a million refugees in Germany (citizen poulation 80 million, not to mention its higher GDP/capita – Germany ~$46000 vs Lebanon ~$18000 or Jordan ~$12000) is already too many deserves to be met with utter derision. Germany could take 20 million refugees WITH EASE if it had the will to do so. But you won’t hear Merkel say this, because she is a coward who can’t even crush PEGIDA.

we had not previously covered refugee resettlement efforts by other poor countries which similarly put the EU’s meagre efforts to shame in comparison. On this topic, the following article provides much good information: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/03/obsessing-over-europes-refugee-crisis-while-ignoring-africas-is-white-privilege-at-work/

Admittedly, a record 1.3 million refugees sought asylum within the European Union last year, with thousands more applying for asylum every month. Yet what of Sub-Saharan Africa, home to 4.4 million refugees and a whopping 19.5 million “people of concern” to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees?

Where is the rolling coverage of Kenya’s Dadaab camp, for example? Dadaab is the largest refugee camp in the world, but in a move that could displace as many as 300,000 people, Kenyan authorities are in the process of closing it down. It puts the recent British media frenzy over the so-called “Jungle” camp in Calais, France, with its 10,000 migrants, into some perspective, doesn’t it?

Compare and contrast Uganda and Denmark. The latter’s GDP per capita is about 77 times larger than the former’s. Yet in January, the enlightened Danes passed a law allowing the authorities to seize the jewelry of refugees, supposedly in order to cover the costs of hosting them.

Uganda’s 2006 Refugee Act, however, allows refugees in that country to work, travel and even start their own businesses. Is it any wonder that the law is, as a World Bank article put it, “considered one of the most progressive and generous in the world”?

Much has been made of Germany’s “open door” policy toward Syrian refugees, with more than a million migrants and refugees arriving in the country across the course of 2015. These newcomers, however, have struggled to find work given what an investigation by Der Spiegel called “the jumble of individual [immigration] laws and ordinances . . . completely impenetrable for foreigners” and the “17 different types of ‘residency permission,’ ‘residency permit’ and ‘tolerance’ for refugees and migrants.”

Tanzania, on the other hand — with little fanfare in the West and with a GDP per capita nearly 48 times smaller than Germany’s — began the process of granting citizenship to 200,000 refugees from Burundi back in 2014, marking, in the words of the UNHCR, “the largest group in UNHCR’s history to which naturalisation has been offered.”

Yet Europe’s refugee crisis continues to suck up all the oxygen of global publicity. The UNHCR fundraises for a whole host of “special situations” involving refugees. As of the end of October, the “Central African Republic situation” was 17 percent funded; the “Somalia situation” 21 percent funded and the “South Sudan situation” 25 percent funded. The “crisis in Europe,” however? Fifty-six percent funded.

The double standard is as brazen as it is shameful. Remember: The European Union accounts for 17 percent of global GDP; Sub-Saharan Africa accounts for a little more than 3 percent.

By the way, Uganda and Tanzania, and to a lesser extent Kenya, include the arable Nalubaale region:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/African_Great_Lakes.svg/765px-African_Great_Lakes.svg.png

the location of Kintu’s mythical kingdom, so we can expect Kabaka blood memory to be playing a role in this. Part of me imagines that perhaps Kintu might still be alive and volunteering in a refugee centre somewhere in the area…..

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47 Responses to A review of refugee resettlement by numbers

  1. Numinous Sun says:

    It is ironic that today’s Germany is facing a serious demographic problem, which could easily be solved with immigration, yet the far-right solution would actually destroy the German nation much like the Bolshevik solution would have in the Germany of the 1920′s.

  2. Andalucian Warrior says:

    Has anyone seen the film ‘The Day after Tomorrow’. It’s really god pro-refugee propaganda. Maybe it could be used somehow. It could also be applied to the Trump crisis, since it is Mexico that is accepting the refugees in the film.

  3. John Johnson says:

    On the subject of refugees in film, apparently the right has interpreted the ‘Angry Birds’ movie as an anti-refugee/immigrant allegory. I haven’t seen the movie so I don’t know if rightists are making a big deal out of nothing, but remember this is supposed to be a children’s movie–(in other words, kids are no longer being fed PC propaganda, but instead being injected with pure ZC propaganda)

    https://heatst.com/entertainment/angry-birds-has-weirdly-become-this-years-divisive-immigration-movie/

  4. Satya says:

    Tanzania is taking in only other Africans. Same holds true for the Jordanians taking in other local Arabs, I doubt their resolve would be existent if it was Africans, same holds true for East Asians who apply strict racialism to their immigration policies. Germans/Europeans would undoubtedly take in all European South Africans if tribalist extremist groups in South Africa continue their racially based hostility and slaughter. Same holds true for the Ukrainians. Now the comparison is correct, your argument is not. Furthermore, if there was a solution to be found where African refugees are to be resettled in Africa, I am sure that all of the Eurasian nations from Europe to East Asia can be successfully lobbied to provide all the needed aid. Maximum Ahimsa and maximum long term constructive action.
    Also what you seem to be missing: there are lots of extremely low quality people among those whom you proclaim to be your target group of unconditional solidarity: refugees. My victim group for better or for worse is no more noble then my nation for better or for worse. It is tribalism plain and simple.

  5. AS says:

    @Satya

    “Tanzania is taking in only other Africans.”

    Please provide links to articles about refugees of other ethnicities arriving in Tanzania who were turned away. If no refugees of other ethnicities were arriving in Tanzania to begin with, your statement is deceptive.

    “Same holds true for the Jordanians taking in other local Arabs, I doubt their resolve would be existent if it was Africans”

    Your doubt comes from your own non-Aryan mind. But in videos of refugee camps (I can’t remember whether it was in Jordan or Turkey) I have definitely seen “black” refugees, probably either “black” Iraqis (yes, there were more than 2 million “black” Iraqi CITIZENS under Saddam Hussein, whose lives unsuprisingly got worse after Iraq became democratic, similar to the Rohingya in Myanmar), Sudanese or Somalis. I have also previously covered the Somali diaspora in the UAE.

    Additionally, I had no idea that the WWII refugees from National Socialist Germany welcomed in Arabic countries were “local Arabs”.

    On a related note, I previously posted a link to an article about WWII Polish refugees welcomed in Iran:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-face-of-identitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-143512

    “same holds true for East Asians who apply strict racialism to their immigration policies”

    Stop lying.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9RmZ0-9QfU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJSDpqkO8U

    (I especially like the second video.)

    “Germans/Europeans would undoubtedly take in all European South Africans”

    Next you will tell us that Israel takes in diaspora Jews. But here is a link to how countries such as Zambia, Mozambique, etc. welcome “white” South Africans wanting to leave South Africa:

    http://mg.co.za/article/2011-05-03-boers-are-moving-north

    So no, it’s not just “white”-majority countries that welcome “non-whites”, the reverse also happens.

    “if tribalist extremist groups in South Africa continue their racially based hostility and slaughter.”

    “Black” South Africans get murdered at a MUCH higher rate than “white” South Africans, so when you talk about “racially based hostility and slaughter” in South Africa, you sound like a Jew complaining about the “Holocaust”.

    “if there was a solution to be found where African refugees are to be resettled in Africa”

    How about simply letting all refugees choose for themselves in which country to resettle?

    “Maximum Ahimsa”

    Maximum Ahimsa is letting everyone choose the country they wish to live in, because no one chose the country they were born in.

    “Also what you seem to be missing: there are lots of extremely low quality people among those whom you proclaim to be your target group of unconditional solidarity: refugees.”

    Quality by what standards? Anti-Zionism? Anti-Islamophobia? Likelihood of consistently voting (after receiving citizenship) to keep the far-right out of power? Likelihood (in the longer-term) to accept autocracy? Or (even longer-term) likelihood of permanently eliminating the possibility of space travel and other machine nightmare scenarios? What you seem to be missing: we do not measure the quality of people by Western standards.

    http://aryanism.net/politics/foundations-of-the-true-left/western-civilization-must-die/

  6. Satya says:

    PART ONE:
    Your response to that truth probe was as I predicted it to be sadly. There is one fundamental flaw to the left and that is that it is biased towards “western” tribalism and transgression, which and a serious injustice and lack of commitment to truth and frankly a lack of basic compassion. Compassion is impartial.

    Examples:
    1.The UK government is funding forced sterilization in rural India, which is beyond disgusting. Calling this out is virtue. Some village elders in rural India however recently ruled that a brother’s two sisters should be gang raped in punishment for the brother’s crime, which is beyond disgusting as well. Calling this out is virtue.
    2. The US is bombing Afghanistan and lying about Islam as aggressor, which is beyond disgusting. Calling this out is virtue. Afghani soldiers regularly rape small boys without the beginning of a sense of morality, which is beyond disgusting as well. Calling this out is virtue.
    3. US and NATO are bombing Ira9 and Syria with the most heinous lies in the book is downright evil. Calling this out is virtue. 9 Iraqis gang raping a German woman among THOUSANDS of other serious incidents is atrocious and a slap in the face of all the aid workers. Calling this out is virtue.
    4. Or this point in a mythic format: The 7 Samurai. Compare the farmers and the bandits.

    Now while you are perfectly able to call out the ignobility of the “West”, you fail to be honest about the ignobility of the “rest” and that is the inevitable sign of a tribalist mind set uncommitted to truth when it does not suit one’s own agenda. Enemy: Jews and Western right winger versus “the tribe” which is everybody else spearheaded by the “Aryan”. Western civilization and NWO are indefensible I agree, but so is this mind-set. It is lacking both in sharpness and in compassion at the same time. Lacking in sharpness as the real opposition is truth vs. lie only and lacking in compassion as unconsciousness is involuntary and violence indefensible no matter who commits it against whom – this includes immigrant violence.

    Unfortunately hate based attacks on ethnic Germans outnumber incidents of right wing violence in Germany, which needless to say are as indefensible. Now what do you do? Defend your chosen tribe no matter what or defend any victim against any aggressor? Call any mention of gang rapes, stabbings, attempted immolations of homeless people, pouring of acid of women’s faces, kicking of people down stairs, mass harassment of women at refugee welcome parties “right wing propaganda”? Do you expect people to sob in the newspaper over Somalis deported after a 5 hour rape of a politician and worry only ever about “evil whitey”? This has nothing to do with empathy. Nothing whatsoever.

  7. Satya says:

    PART TWO – Detailed responses
    1. “if there was a solution to be found where African refugees are to be resettled in Africa” How about simply letting all refugees choose for themselves in which country to resettle?

    Invalid. There is no such thing as a RIGHT to be welcome. Welcoming is a grace and not a right. A community is perfectly in their right to decide who is in it and who is not in it on PRINCIPLE. You exercise that very same right in your political activism. A person cannot claim entry to Aryanism with out conforming to its core principles. The same is true for anybody else.

    2. “Next you will tell us that Israel takes in diaspora Jews. But here is a link to how countries such as Zambia, Mozambique, etc. welcome “white” South Africans wanting to leave South Africa: http://mg.co.za/article/2011-05-03-boers-are-moving-north

    These countries have previously persecuted European immigrants and then failed miserably at farming the confiscated farms. It is tribal self interest, nothing noble.

    3. “Maximum Ahimsa” Maximum Ahimsa is letting everyone choose the country they wish to live in, because no one chose the country they were born in.

    In principle I agree, with the exception that the community he is applying to join must be humbly asked and their No respected if spoken.

    4. Quality by what standards? Anti-Zionism? Anti-Islamophobia? Likelihood of consistently voting (after receiving citizenship) to keep the far-right out of power? Likelihood (in the longer-term) to accept autocracy? Or (even longer-term) likelihood of permanently eliminating the possibility of space travel and other machine nightmare scenarios? What you seem to be missing: we do not measure the quality of people by Western standards.

    No. Low Quality as in gang violence for example. Formation of Mafias. Between 70 and 90 % of all extremely violent youth delinquents in Berlin for example are turkish, arab or sinti and roma. Immigrants vote the way they vote often because they behave like a tribe furthering their own tribal interest. Again that same bias. Low quality as in sexual offenders or low empathy sociopaths. Unfortunately.

    4. Additionally, I had no idea that the WWII refugees from National Socialist Germany welcomed in Arabic countries were “local Arabs”.

    This one I did not know yet. Makes sense however given there was an alliance all throughout the war.

  8. Satya says:

    PART THREE: detailed responses

    5. Thank you for the Videos on Africans in China, that was new to me as well. Here is what I was aware of so far: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/26/asia/africans-leaving-guangzhou-china/

    6. As for Europeans taking in other Europeans. It makes sense. Plain and simple. Ordinary people is who everyone has to live with and the majority of people is ordinary and have their cultural habits. So minimum friction. Maximum Ahimsa. I hold firm to that because it is evidently true and much kinder than the permanent presence of force to keep the “right wing” at bay – real or imagined. Especially these efforts embolden tribalist sentiments among the immigrant groups who end up hating “whitey” and resorting to violence.

  9. Satya says:

    ADDENDUM:

    Trading Colonies do not equal One People. Trading colonies always existed all throughout history, so did cosmopolitan i.e. trade based cities. Still that has nothing to do with the kind of “Aryan” society you envision. Trade is self interest based pure and simple. And the Africans are there for the money, for what is in it for them and most likely no due to any noble sentiment or deep awe or respect for the nobility of the ancient chinese culture.

  10. Satya says:

    ADDENDUM 2

    “What you seem to be missing: we do not measure the quality of people by Western standards.”

    Neither do I. I measure people according to responsiveness to truth, grace and empathy and the willingness to begin with themselves first, work and give first.

  11. anon says:

    @Satya
    I want to address one argument.

    “There is no such thing as a RIGHT to be welcome.”

    There IS a right not to be prevented from being welcomed, at least according to aryanism AFAIK and other ideologies which states that actions based on coercion are illegitimate unless justified (as in self-defense and proportional retaliation). Restrictions on movement of people are certainly coercive and harmful. Any justification for that, such as “they will take our jobs” or “they will destroy our culture” or “they will rape our women” (assuming we own those women) etc. is either wrong or not strong enough to introduce movement restrictions on ordinary people.

    “A community is perfectly in their right to decide who is in it and who is not in it on PRINCIPLE.”

    So by that logic if your community has decided that in order to be a citizen you have to cut your right hand, otherwise you will be deported, that would be legitimate for you? Auctoritas, non veritas facit legem? I don’t think so. Cutting hands could be reasonable demand for joining a BDSM fetish club, but it’s not valid when it comes to political communities.

    “You exercise that very same right in your political activism. A person cannot claim entry to Aryanism with out conforming to its core principles. The same is true for anybody else.”

    This analogy is false. For example, while there are countless internet political discussion clubs, to none of which I am compelled to be a member and none of which are providing me extremely important services, there are finite number of states in the world and I am forced to join one. If I were banned from aryanism.net I wouldn’t be excluded from any important thing to lead a good life (sorry guys), that couldn’t be said about state membership. Your argument would be sound if everybody would be allowed to create their own states.

  12. Satya says:

    PART FOUR: Detailed Responses.

    1. “Black” South Africans get murdered at a MUCH higher rate than “white” South Africans, so when you talk about “racially based hostility and slaughter” in South Africa, you sound like a Jew complaining about the “Holocaust”.

    Who is doing the killing is the key question here? There are low empathy African tribes that base themselves entirely on power and a sense of “WE!”. In Bavaria there is a Camaroonian Shaman who is putting evil spells on people for money. That kind of mind-set. He is doing that for his own profit because him and his clients believe it actually effects damage. Of course it does not really, but the attitude is more than sobering (That holds true for those of his clients that are German and should know better – both morally and rationally.) Again that same bias. “Kill the farmer, kill the Boer” is as indefensible as the KKK. Your reaction here is tribal as predicted: you are unwilling to see a crime for a crime but just tribal groups and since one of them is defined as the big bad and the other as the eternal victim, anything goes. The one ring according to your terminology.

    2. “Your doubt comes from your own non-Aryan mind.”

    My doubt comes from observation and painful realizations. According to that logic your Aryan mind should have permanently blocked you from noticing the behavior of Jews. Also many Syrians and Afghans hate each other with a capital H for example. N oone expected that yet now people don’t know what to do about it and considering seperating those two groups for starters as it has already occurred that they demolished an entire refugee home over their strife. You know about actual refugees from youtube only as it seems. And Muslim Arabs castrated, enslaved and killed blacks plenty in the past for purely racist reasons, which of course not the whole history or an indicator – same holds true for staunchly right wing white American Christians who regularly adopt black children and raise them as their own. (So much for busting that stupid narrative.) That being said, I have been told personally of how ashamed some Syrian refugees feel over the selfish sluts and welfare attitude they observe in many of their compatriots and fellow refugees to give you just one example and one of my friends has been violently attacked, robbed and beaten to the hospital by two Arab refugees. She is a refugee host herself and is currently studying Arabic for context.

    3. “Tanzania is taking in only other Africans.” Please provide links to articles about refugees of other ethnicities arriving in Tanzania who were turned away. If no refugees of other ethnicities were arriving in Tanzania to begin with, your statement is deceptive.

    Point taken. You are right. It has not been tested yet. I retract. It is unfair to assume they would not before they had a chance to prove themselves. However I rate empathy for kin or “kin adjacent” people much lower than for “non-kin” people.

  13. Satya says:

    http://mg.co.za/article/2011-05-03-boers-are-moving-north

    It says land LEASE not ownership and equality and a guarantee never to be thrown out. White South Africans are invited as providers. No nobility is involved in this, not even a shred although it might be step in the right direction. Speak again when the question comes to poverty. Germany (and Sweden) is currently taking in people who live on welfare permanently, taking in beggars so to speak, people it stands to gain from nothing just because of empathy. It cannot even begin to be compared.

  14. Satya says:

    @anon

    “There IS a right not to be prevented from being welcomed, at least according to aryanism AFAIK and other ideologies which states that actions based on coercion are illegitimate unless justified (as in self-defense and proportional retaliation). Restrictions on movement of people are certainly coercive and harmful.”

    1. Notice I said community and NOT state. In Germany we have individual communities that refuse to take in refugees and they have a right to do so. Attempts have been made to force them and they demolished the asylum home before anyone could move in. One might not approve of this type of behavior but freedom of association must be respected. Each individual commune has to be humbly asked if and if yes how many they are willing to take in and under what conditions (some have asked to be given details on who is coming first – it was not respected and the people nazi-bashed).

    2. You are right that noone who would like to host a refugee in their own home should be prevented from doing so even if he is part of a commune that has overall agreed not to run an asylum home. That is correct and I was not arguing for that. There is an ancient tenet in Germanic law where a woman can act as an agent of grace and have someone pardoned on her behalf if she agreed to take responsibility for him and marry him. Same holds true for individual hosts: they must agree to bear the full responsibility of their choice and pay some form of compensation to the commune if the person they agreed protecting is acting out. It is not enough to approve of people being helped, you must personally KNOW and OWN what you are doing there. Plain and simple. It is a question of walking the walk personally and with a sense of responsibility.

    “Any justification for that, such as “they will take our jobs” or “they will destroy our culture” or “they will rape our women” (assuming we own those women) etc. is either wrong or not strong enough to introduce movement restrictions on ordinary people.”

    3. Remedy has to be offered to those people. How about the left is actually doing its job instead of wasting time on fighting the right? And here we enter the realm of some form of economic regionalism and protectionism, plus the fostering of cultural institutions and sound protection from aggression – preferably through autonomy education and self defense training and not only through police. It is as simple as that. Or to quote the Flight of Garuda:
    “Is it not marvelous that all things are liberated by acknowledgment?”

    “So by that logic if your community has decided that in order to be a citizen you have to cut your right hand, otherwise you will be deported, that would be legitimate for you? Auctoritas, non veritas facit legem? I don’t think so. Cutting hands could be reasonable demand for joining a BDSM fetish club, but it’s not valid when it comes to political communities.”

    Saudi Arabia is already the cutting off the right hand as a punishment for theft. Immigrants to SA will be subjected to this legal system and can make an informed decision beforehand not to go there.

    “Your argument would be sound if everybody would be allowed to create their own states.”

    Everyone is but ONLY on empty land according to common law. Larger political entities must be lobbied to allow for subsidiary communes like in German law where each commune can actually give itself somewhat of their own constitution if they want to and refrain from aggressing upon others. If however you are the only political entity that is given unconditional refuge to people because they need somewhere to go, the result is going to be that other countries can and will banish all their undesirables and send them over to you. This is called: Waking up to reality. West African kingdoms sold criminals to slave traders in order to get rid of them. Great Britain dumped them on Australia etc.

  15. AS says:

    @Satya

    “There is one fundamental flaw to the left and that is that it is biased towards “western” tribalism and transgression”

    We spend more time criticizing Western civilization, because that is on a practical level by far the biggest problem due to its disproportionate role in constantly introducing new machines to society, which causes constant complexifying upheavals in lifestyle that makes large-scale cultural introspection virtually impossible. Machine progress must be totally halted (and rolled back in various areas) before any profound change can happen, and this means Western civilization must die first.

    “The UK government is funding forced sterilization in rural India, which is beyond disgusting.”

    Why? Is it better for more children to be born without their own consent just to please their families? Especially in a country as indescribably overpopulated as India? The question should be why the Indian government is not doing this itself!

    “Some village elders in rural India however recently ruled that a brother’s two sisters should be gang raped in punishment for the brother’s crime, which is beyond disgusting as well.”

    See above.

    “The US is bombing Afghanistan and lying about Islam as aggressor, which is beyond disgusting.”
    “Afghani soldiers regularly rape small boys without the beginning of a sense of morality, which is beyond disgusting as well.”

    “US and NATO are bombing Ira9 and Syria with the most heinous lies in the book is downright evil.”
    “9 Iraqis gang raping a German woman among THOUSANDS of other serious incidents is atrocious and a slap in the face of all the aid workers.”

    The US and other NATO countries produce rapists too.

    “Now while you are perfectly able to call out the ignobility of the “West”, you fail to be honest about the ignobility of the “rest””

    Everyone here knows that I utterly despise Confucianism, and slam it every chance I get. On some particular counts it is even worse than Judaism and Aristotelianism, and for the record I will not be satisfied with anything less than total destruction of Confucianist civilization.

    “and that is the inevitable sign of a tribalist mind set uncommitted to truth when it does not suit one’s own agenda. Enemy: Jews and Western right winger versus “the tribe” which is everybody else spearheaded by the “Aryan”.”

    How could “everybody else” possibly be a tribe? The moment you say “everybody else”, you have already linguistically admitted that it was not our side but the other side who made the active decision to form tribes (“everybody else” = “everybody except the tribes”). “Non-Jews” cannot be a tribe because it was Jews who started calling themselves “Jews” and hence LEAVING the remainder as “non-Jews”. “Non-whites” cannot be a tribe similarly. And so on.

    “Unfortunately hate based attacks on ethnic Germans outnumber incidents of right wing violence in Germany”

    If an Israeli tells me that hate based attacks on Jews outnumber incidents of IDF violence in Israel, citing only Israeli sources, should I trust him?

    “mass harassment of women”

    WHAT “mass harassment of women”?!?!?! AN ACCUSATION IS NOT EVIDENCE OF CRIME!!!!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS?!?!?! SHOW ME VIDEO FOOTAGE!!!!! WHY IS THERE _NO_ VIDEO OF THIS WHATSOEVER?!?!?! DID EVERYONE’S SMARTPHONES RUN OUT OF POWER SIMULTANEOUSLY?!?!?! OR WAS IT BECAUSE *gasp* NO SUCH THING EVER HAPPENED?!?!?! JUST LIKE THE ‘HOLOCAUST’, FFS!!!!!

    “Do you expect people to sob in the newspaper over Somalis deported after a 5 hour rape of a politician”

    I expect people not to project the behaviour of an individual rapist onto Somalis in general. Therefore I expect people to (unlike you) discuss the two events separately.

    “A community is perfectly in their right to decide who is in it and who is not in it on PRINCIPLE.”

    Who is “their”? If there is no unanimity, whose decision counts? (In a sane world, it would be the monarch’s decision.)

    “These countries have previously persecuted European immigrants”

    Colonialists (who therefore deserved everything inflicted upon them). Zambia was colonized by the British Empire and Mozambique by the Portugese Empire.

    “In principle I agree, with the exception that the community he is applying to join must be humbly asked and their No respected if spoken.”

    If I move into a unit in an apartment block, I don’t need permission from everyone or even anyone else (let alone your nebulous “their”) living in the apartment block to do so. They own their units, not mine. If some of them so dislike having me as a neighbour, they can choose to leave.

    “Attempts have been made to force them and they demolished the asylum home before anyone could move in. One might not approve of this type of behavior but freedom of association must be respected.”

    Freedom of association means they themselves can leave or stay in the apartment block as they choose, not that they can vandalize my unit.

    “other countries can and will banish all their undesirables and send them over to you.”

    If these people themselves never wanted to come, send them back. If these people themselves want to come, welcome them. It’s that simple. Is that not how you yourself would wish to be treated if you were in their position? Then so treat them.

    “Between 70 and 90 % of all extremely violent youth delinquents in Berlin for example are turkish, arab or sinti and roma.”

    Again, if an Israeli tells me that between 70 and 90 % of all extremely violent youth delinquents in Jerusalem for example are Palestinian, citing only Israeli sources, should I trust him?

    But even if your numbers were true, I would prefer such youth delinquents over Islamophobic, pro-Zionist, pro-Western gangs such as PEGIDA etc. any day. Youth delinquents could one day be converted to fight for us. PEGIDA etc. have already chosen to fight against us.

    “Immigrants vote the way they vote often because they behave like a tribe furthering their own tribal interest.”

    I never knew that Mexican immigrants in the US (who were overwhelmingly against the US invasion of Iraq in 2003) were part of the same “tribe” as Iraqis.

    “So minimum friction. Maximum Ahimsa.”

    Minimum friction is not maximum Ahimsa. Minimum friction is minimum retaliation to initiated violence. Maximum Ahimsa is maximum retaliation to initiated violence.

    “permanent presence of force to keep the “right wing” at bay”

    This is more friction, and more Ahimsa. Though maximum Ahimsa would require destroying rightism on the genetic level.

    “Especially these efforts embolden tribalist sentiments among the immigrant groups who end up hating “whitey” and resorting to violence.”

    You sound like a Jew complaining that “anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism and leads to violence towards Jews”. Duh! It’s the insistence on maintaining Jewish/”white” identity that is the problem!

    “Who is doing the killing is the key question here?”

    Mostly career criminals, it seems.

    “you are unwilling to see a crime for a crime but just tribal groups and since one of them is defined as the big bad and the other as the eternal victim, anything goes.”

    When have I ever said that murderers of innocent “white” South Africans should not be punished? But what annoys me is that every time a “white” South African is murdered the story is plastered all over the international news, whereas every day many more “black” South Africans are murdered and the international news doesn’t bother to report it. Think about what kind of differential conditioning effect that has on people.

    “According to that logic your Aryan mind should have permanently blocked you from noticing the behavior of Jews.”

    Then I read the Tanakh.

    “Muslim Arabs castrated, enslaved and killed blacks plenty in the past for purely racist reasons”

    If they did not first offer them a chance to convert to Islam (and thereby immediately become full citizens), they themselves were not Muslims by definition. I have no problem believing that there were some racist Arabs pretending to be Muslims, but there is no such thing as a “racist Muslim” – it is an oxymoron.

    “one of my friends has been violently attacked, robbed and beaten to the hospital by two Arab refugees. She is a refugee host herself”

    If I were in charge, these two attackers would be slowly beaten to death in public. With that said, I hope your friend continues her good work and is not tempted into projecting the behaviour of her attackers onto other refugees. In fact, if she is willing to speak out to warn others not to negatively stereotype refugees, her voice would have added credibility given her experience. If she would like to write an article on this topic, we would be happy to post it here. Please ask her to send in a contact form if she is interested.

    “Germany (and Sweden) is currently taking in people who live on welfare permanently”

    The correct state response is not to violently limit the flow of refugees who want to enter, but to replace welfare with public works projects for living wage. This way, refugees merely attracted to unearned money would automatically cease to want to enter. This is what we have been advising ever since the refugee crisis began.

  16. Blake Towne says:

    Might be off topic, but didn’t Adolf Hitler once praise Confuscius as a spiritual leader? If so, why?

  17. Satya says:

    “Machine progress must be totally halted.”

    Agreed. But that is not the same as criticizing “right wingers”. At least in Germany the majority of “right wingers” are already well aware of the problem and striving for a simplification of lifestyle and a return to a more natural or “Germanic” way of living. Vark Vikernes is another example who is well on this track. Same is true for many of the preppers in your country. Viking preparedness would be an example of that. In general spiritual people are on course. Machinapocalypse must be halted at all costs, yet again you are going ad hominem then and not ad ream: There is a tendency to portray “right wingers” as heartless and bigoted when what you actually mean is deindustrialization and simplification of lifestyle. Attack those who will not desist from this.

    “Why? Is it better for more children to be born without their own consent just to please their families? Especially in a country as indescribably overpopulated as India? The question should be why the Indian government is not doing this itself!”

    No child is born without their consent. You are born because you MUST be born until you have awoken. Beware of this mind-set.

    “The US and other NATO countries produce rapists too.”

    #pizzagate

    “How could “everybody else” possibly be a tribe?”

    POC vs. the White Man – the American lobotomy. It is artificial and constructed and must be crushed ASAP.

    “Unfortunately hate based attacks on ethnic Germans outnumber incidents of right wing violence in Germany”

    http://www.rapefugees.net/
    Meanwhile the Antonio Amadio Foundation has been found to be 85 to 100% besides the facts in numbers of right wing incidents in a recent fact check. They are scrambeling for proportionality at this point as the whole narrative of everybody is equally violent is caving in on itself. 75% of all North African immigrants f.e. have been investigated for crimes. There are low quality people everywhere but a substantial amount of the people coming at this point are low quality. Maybe because undifferenciated open borders and no clear boundaries and consistent deportation.

    “If an Israeli tells me that hate based attacks on Jews outnumber incidents of IDF violence in Israel, citing only Israeli sources, should I trust him?”

    Strawman.

    “I expect people not to project the behaviour of an individual rapist onto Somalis in general. Therefore I expect people to (unlike you) discuss the two events separately.”

    Invalid. A state cannot operate like this when facing the decision to allow more Somali immigrants entry. It has to overview experience or risk to break oath to divert harm from his citizens. This is a DUTY. You would say this about Jews no doubt.

    “Who is “their”? If there is no unanimity, whose decision counts? (In a sane world, it would be the monarch’s decision.”

    In a sane world the monarch would allot unused land to people and offer them ways to help themselves and not expect his citizens to make sacrifices for his ideals while he is moving on from his good deed. (So many, so many… Just there one day to say Refugees Welcome and hand over a teddy bear and after that ZIL. Nothing. Who is doing the actual work?)

    “Again, if an Israeli tells me that between 70 and 90 % of all extremely violent youth delinquents in Jerusalem for example are Palestinian, citing only Israeli sources, should I trust him?”

    You should trust the German police department and inmate statistics. Yes. What else? Or the word of a German living in that very city.

    “If I move into a unit in an apartment block, I don’t need permission from everyone or even anyone else (let alone your nebulous “their”) living in the apartment block to do so. They own their units, not mine. If some of them so dislike having me as a neighbour, they can choose to leave.”

    In Switzerland you do. Hail Switzerland. Cities do not operate as communities. Also: where are Germans going to leave to when they dislike “refugees” as their neighbor? What you are talking is colonialisation.

    Freedom of association means they themselves can leave or stay in the apartment block as they choose, not that they can vandalize my unit.

    Invalid. The commune is a sovereign and the asylum home is their property. When the municipality does not respect the decision of the commune this is active and lawful resistance. Again WHO is doing the helping? It is all so very easy from that tyrant high chair.

    “If these people themselves never wanted to come, send them back. If these people themselves want to come, welcome them. It’s that simple. Is that not how you yourself would wish to be treated if you were in their position? Then so treat them.”

    No. If you were to open an insane asylum and a maximum security prison and dumb all those people onto another country, you should not get away with it. Imagine Germany would be doing this: collecting all sociopaths, pedophiles, mafiosos, rapists and insane people and taking them to your neighborhood and telling you to just welcome them, would you? What if India was deciding to evict its rural population this way? Again walk the walk before you “tear your mouth open” to translate a German idiom.

    “But even if your numbers were true, I would prefer such youth delinquents over Islamophobic, pro-Zionist, pro-Western gangs such as PEGIDA etc. any day. Youth delinquents could one day be converted to fight for us. PEGIDA etc. have already chosen to fight against us.”

    Pegida is intelligence. They have not chosen anything. Can be converted anytime. Pegida was pushed in order to prevent a Palestinian/German querfront and in order to push out the Monday protests against the monetary system and war with Russia that where scaring the system. – Other than that: Go ahead. Are you here in Germany converting people already making them into moral individuals and disciplined noble task forces cleaning up neighborhoods from gang violence and organizing “Aryan” permaculture farm settlements for the future?

    “I never knew that Mexican immigrants in the US (who were overwhelmingly against the US invasion of Iraq in 2003) were part of the same “tribe” as Iraqis.”

    They are voting for financial hand outs. Someone has to pay for that. They are voting for staying rights. Understandably. All this money is coming from somewhere and it is currently not really building a future without money i.e. self sufficient villages, regional cooperative etc. Serbia offered refugees open farm land. Nobody came. Very sobering, I know. Cultivation is the only solution. China is going to light the way if it indeed says good-bye to materialism and egoism as their leader of state claims.

    “This is more friction, and more Ahimsa. Though maximum Ahimsa would require destroying rightism on the genetic level.”

    You are missing the point. You cannot ex out a function of the one mind. It has its place, too, f.e. in emphasizing self-reliance and personal responsibility. As humans our actions are flawed. We can make the most of it and create spaces where truth rules as much as possible and defend those places for the benefit of all sentient beings. We can put Vipassana in prisons and help awaken the Buddha nature – within our means. What you are proposing however is not possible. Read the Dhammapadam again.

    “You sound like a Jew complaining that “anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism and leads to violence towards Jews”. Duh! It’s the insistence on maintaining Jewish/”white” identity that is the problem!”

    Your mind is stuck in tribalism. Jews are insane and identified, but they have the Buddha nature as do all other people. Spinoza. I agree however that much of European and Jewish mind has chosen Chaos over Kosmos at present. Buddhist entryism to Israel maybe. Spinozify the place. Some headway is being made already. There are new Boddhisattvas experiencing the shift not only here in Germany but also in Israel. We have 3 Arhats teaching in the direct vicinity of where I live in Berlin. Large Sanghas, too.

    As for “white” identity: Buddhism is well on its way. Give it time. Is handled already as “ultimate red pill’” by the alt right. Other than that much of “white” “identity” is benign and moral. Culture is good. Revive it.

    “Colonialists”

    Now tell me again about the UK government in India. Looking closer at SA you will find that certain Bantu tribes came “colonizing” the Boer settlements later and killing the bush people in their way. I guess they had it coming.

    – Africa needs Taoist teachers coming in.

  18. Satya says:

    “If I were in charge, these two attackers would be slowly beaten to death in public. With that said, I hope your friend continues her good work and is not tempted into projecting the behaviour of her attackers onto other refugees. In fact, if she is willing to speak out to warn others not to negatively stereotype refugees, her voice would have added credibility given her experience. If she would like to write an article on this topic, we would be happy to post it here. Please ask her to send in a contact form if she is interested.”

    This is already happening on mass. Yet it does effect the decision as to taking in more refugees at this point. And it should. The country is undergoing reorientation. New Years Eve task force was successful and the North African offenders kept at bay. One Green party member had the audacity to call this racial profiling and was bitch slapped for this non sense accordingly for once by two wives of German police officers who had to work 13 hours straight to make this safety happen. What do people expect really how a police is supposed to operate in practical terms?

    “The correct state response is not to violently limit the flow of refugees who want to enter, but to replace welfare with public works projects for living wage. This way, refugees merely attracted to unearned money would automatically cease to want to enter. This is what we have been advising ever since the refugee crisis began.”

    And what if they refuse? Happened already in Germany. African “refugees” claiming they are guests here and should not be required to work. Low quality people. Unfortunately.

  19. Satya says:

    This being said: it is true that high level offenders have a tendency to get off scott free and light should be shed on their behavior: Follow the pedotrail.

  20. Satya says:

    http://www.philosophers-stone.co.uk/?p=17158
    In other news. Absolutely despicable.

    Also as a reminder:

    “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

    ? Friedrich Nietzsche

  21. Aestheticaf says:

    @AS
    He is arguing that a community is allowed to make certain demands to immigrants seeking refuge. Your own statement paralleled this thought, in that Muslims would similarly demand that individuals convert to Islam or else be executed or enslaved. As someone who would rather see the development of a more secular world, I don’t think Europeans should demand that immigrants convert to Christianity, but I could certainly understand why they would want to make at least some basic demands. What if we lived on our own Aryan community and some refugees showed up, and after letting them in they started slaughtering and butchering animals? A nation or a community should make it clear to newcomers the stipulations for being a part of that nation or community. Likewise, newcomers should be expected to adhere to or appeal these stipulations. The Jews have been described as a people who show no respect and complete disregard for the host nations they inhabited. Maybe you want to see that kind of people enter Europe in order to destroy it, but can you blame the people living there for wanting to prevent that kind of chaos?
    I imagine in my own country, America, we could do a much better job of incentivizing immigration. Currently it is used to pull in sad folks who end up working in slaughterhouses and all other areas of the meat industry. We could easily change the incentives for people to work in the mines or till the soil. I have met many immigrants in my lifetime, and so many of them seem to have been sucked into this idea of working way too hard for lavish luxuries when in reality they would have found much more happiness in the simple life of a farmer. Regardless of being mislead, I generally find our immigrants in America to be of very high quality. I think there is a possibility that this is not the same in Europe. Even still, it is the nations fault for not taking any serious national initiative to handle this crisis that we all knew was inevitable.

  22. AS says:

    @Blake

    “didn’t Adolf Hitler once praise Confuscius as a spiritual leader? If so, why?”

    “The secret, in any case, is to give each man a chance to get on in life, even outside his own trade. Ancient China used to be a model for that, as long as the teachings of Confucius still throve there. The poorest young village lad would aspire to become a mandarin.” – Adolf Hitler

    Hitler was praising the Imperial Exam system:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_examination

    in which the syllabus of the essay exam was the Confucian Canon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Books_and_Five_Classics

    which anyone regardless of background could study and then apply to sit the exam. Hitler was not praising the ideas in the Confucian Canon itself. As a matter of fact, while some exam candidates submitted defenses of the Confucian Canon, others preferred to submit crtiques, so it was certainly not the case that all exam candidates had to agree with what they had studied; they just had to prove they were extremely familiar with the content and able to cogently develop on it in some direction.

    During the colonial era however, academically inclined people in China increasingly switched to studying Western subjects, leading to the devaluation of the Imperial Exam system.

    @Satya

    “But that is not the same as criticizing “right wingers”.”

    I also criticize False Leftists, who are also pro-Western at heart.

    “No child is born without their consent. You are born because you MUST be born until you have awoken. ”

    The moment you use the word “MUST”, you have already admitted that it happens without consent. You speak like a Vedic brahmin, telling victims that their oppression is their own fault rather than their oppressors’.

    “POC vs. the White Man”

    Not our dichotomy.

    “http://www.rapefugees.net/”

    I will repeat this over and over: AN ACCUSATION OF ATTACK DOES NOT IMPLY AN ATTACK!!!!! IT IS UP TO THE ACCUSER TO PROVE, NOT THE ACCUSED TO DISPROVE!!!!!

    “75% of all North African immigrants f.e. have been investigated for crimes.”

    BEING INVESTIGATED DOES NOT IMPLY GUILT!!!!! THE POLICE INVESTIGATE WHOMEVER THEY DECIDE TO INVESTIGATE; IT DOESN’T MEAN SHIT!!!!!

    “A state cannot operate like this when facing the decision to allow more Somali immigrants entry. It has to overview experience or risk to break oath to divert harm from his citizens. This is a DUTY. You would say this about Jews no doubt.”

    I would say your description of how a state must operate closely matches how Israel actually operates.

    “not expect his citizens to make sacrifices for his ideals”

    “You should trust the German police department”

    Jews tell me I should trust the IDF. I don’t take them seriously either.

    (By the way, the German police are still defending the official story about the Berlin false flag truck attack…..)

    “Or the word of a German living in that very city.”

    Jews tell me I should take the word of an Israeli living in Jerusalem. I don’t take them seriously either.

    “In Switzerland you do. Hail Switzerland.”

    No wonder Hitler couldn’t stand Switzerland.

    “Also: where are Germans going to leave to when they dislike “refugees” as their neighbor?”

    I support everyone – including Germans – relocating to wherever they wish to relocate to.

    “What you are talking is colonialisation.”

    If Somalis arrived in Germany with the aim of transforming German citizens into Somali subjects (but not Somali citizens), that would be colonialism.

    If Somalis arrived in Germany with the aim of transforming German citizens into Somali citizens, that would be (folkish) imperialism.

    If Somalis arrived in Germany with the aim of themselves becoming German citizens, that would be immigration.

    Which of these best reflect present-day reality?

    “Now tell me again about the UK government in India.”

    Is the UK government aiming to transform the Indian citizens into British subjects but not British citizens?

    “Looking closer at SA you will find that certain Bantu tribes came “colonizing” the Boer settlements later”

    Were the Bantus aiming to transform the Boers into Bantu subjects but not Bantu citizens?

    “The commune is a sovereign and the asylum home is their property. When the municipality does not respect the decision of the commune this is active and lawful resistance.”

    You still haven’t told me who this nebulous “their” is when there is no unanimity. In any case, this is why we need to return to the idea that all property in a country fundamentally belongs to the monarch, who can thus commandeer it at any time. We cover this on the main site.

    “Again WHO is doing the helping?”

    Volunteers and paid workers. Of course you will argue that the paid workers are paid from tax money, but if you hence decide that you don’t want to pay tax here anymore, the correct response is to relocate to a different country, not to sabotage the work that others are willing to do.

    “It is all so very easy from that tyrant high chair.”

    It is even easier to shut the gates when you yourself are on the inside.

    Also, the monarch is not a tyrant so long as those who do not wish to follow his orders are allowed to leave his country.

    “Imagine Germany would be doing this: collecting all sociopaths, pedophiles, mafiosos, rapists and insane people and taking them to your neighborhood and telling you to just welcome them, would you?”

    I would ask each individual if they prefer to be here or back in Germany, and then welcome the former and send back the latter.

    What is happening in reality is that the refugees are actively making the journey themselves to their preferred destination, which in itself should tell you where they prefer to be.

    “What if India was deciding to evict its rural population this way?”

    I would see it as an opportunity to control their birth rate better than India is willing to.

    “Are you here in Germany converting people already making them into moral individuals and disciplined noble task forces cleaning up neighborhoods from gang violence and organizing “Aryan” permaculture farm settlements for the future?”

    If Ossendowski reports in, I would be able to tell you…..

    “Spinoza”

    I agree with Dietrich Eckart about Spinoza. Look it up on the main site.

    “much of “white” “identity” is benign and moral.”

    Jews tell me the same thing about Jewish identity. I don’t take them seriously either.

    “New Years Eve task force was successful and the North African offenders kept at bay”

    If they were kept at bay (hence by definition given no opportunity to offend), how could they be described as offenders? Do you not see the extent of your own prejudice? You sound like the IDF talking with a straight face about all the Palestinian “terrorists” that they “pre-emptively neutralized”.

    “One Green party member had the audacity to call this racial profiling”

    I would call it ethnic profiling to be more accurate, but it is definitely unfair profiling.

    “What do people expect really how a police is supposed to operate in practical terms?”

    Presumption of innocence would be a good start.

    “And what if they refuse? Happened already in Germany. African “refugees” claiming they are guests here and should not be required to work.”

    They are correct that they should not be required to work. They can work if they want a living wage, or not work if they don’t want a living wage, entirely as they prefer.

    @Aestheticaf

    “He is arguing that a community is allowed to make certain demands to immigrants seeking refuge.”

    No, he is arguing that a community is allowed to make ARBITRARY demands, including demands (e.g. ethnicity) which are not under the control of those wanting to enter.

    “What if we lived on our own Aryan community and some refugees showed up, and after letting them in they started slaughtering and butchering animals?”

    They would be executed, of course.

    “A nation or a community should make it clear to newcomers the stipulations for being a part of that nation or community. Likewise, newcomers should be expected to adhere to or appeal these stipulations.”

    I agree. A newcomer who breaks a law should be treated the same as anyone else who breaks the same law. Satya, however, believes that one newcomer breaking a law is enough reason to prohibit entry to OTHER newcomers of similar ethnic background. That fails to treat each newcomer as an individual, instead stereotyping them by ethnicity. That is, in effect, punishing the innocent for the deeds of the guilty.

    “The Jews have been described as a people who show no respect and complete disregard for the host nations they inhabited. Maybe you want to see that kind of people enter Europe in order to destroy it,”

    I do not. On the contrary, as Muslims enter, Jews leave. This is a consistent pattern that we have documented in the past:

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/the-antidote-has-started-to-take-effect-but/

    This is why I am fundamentally optimistic about the (predominantly Muslim) refugee influx.

  23. Satya says:

    “Imagine Germany would be doing this: collecting all sociopaths, pedophiles, mafiosos, rapists and insane people and taking them to your neighborhood and telling you to just welcome them, would you?”

    I would ask each individual if they prefer to be here or back in Germany, and then welcome the former and send back the latter.

    What is happening in reality is that the refugees are actively making the journey themselves to their preferred destination, which in itself should tell you where they prefer to be.

    AS I am out. No and No. By that logic if a homeless person prefers to be in your living room and makes the journey to break into your apartment you cannot throw him out or even kill him if he refuses to leave. You have a “what I want only” approach. I have a territorial sovereignty approach. You cannot invade my territory. Period the end. However bad you want to be in it, I will not let you violate my right of domain without maximum resistance. I am not your bitch.

    By that logic all of colonialism was always ever OK and you functionally have no argument against Jews being in Israel. Afterall that is where they want to be and want to go to.

  24. Satya says:

    Your sense of justice is completely unhinged AS.

    The problem with Israel is that it was taken by force from the Palestinians and nothing rights that wrong. Modern Israelis born into Israel however have not done that, neither have f.e. later Russian immigrants to Israel. They are innocent. A veritable peace process must find a way for both groups to lawfully live together in one state and compensation being granted to the Palestinians. The end. Or this is going to end in a blood bath. It is that simple.

    The Jews now undergo the experience of what it is like to be on the receiving end of having a group of people in their country they do not trust and believe are plotting against them. These people are now their world. European “right wingers” on the other hand now feel what it is like to be a persecuted minority. Muslims now know what it is like to be treated as the infidel with the odds stacked against them.
    This is how Karma is playing out.

    Now you can continue to refuse to see the irony of this or develop a sense of tragedy or even a sense of humor and disidentify. We are all human and do the best we can with what we have.

    God is greater.

  25. Satya says:

    Also AS: You are plain wrong. You refuse to believe in crime statistics and all the rest and I can sit here and tell you all the things I know from police officers and the like. You cannot be helped then. Crime victimization reports in your country match perpetrator profiling extremely well. So presumption of innocence is given. Always. All these North African offenders are already known to the police and victims report them as the perpetrators.

  26. Aestheticaf says:

    @Satya
    If Israel is allowed to persist in any fashion, it would mean inevitable suffering for all free men.
    https://vimeo.com/170182610

    Satya, you should recognize that your true quarrel is not with immigrants, nor with criminals, but with your own nations lack of appropriately punishing criminals.

    “By that logic if a homeless person prefers to be in your living room and makes the journey to break into your apartment you cannot throw him out or even kill him if he refuses to leave.”

    Try this one out: What if your neighbors house burns down, so your neighbor knocks on your door and asks if he can stay at your place? The way you respond is a demonstration of your empathy. Obviously if you let him in and he decides to rape someone or steal from you, you should (be allowed to) kill him. No one is arguing against that. However, one bad experience (or even worse, simply hearing about someone else’s bad experience that ‘might’ have happened) does not justify the refusal to help any subsequent individuals who lost their home. If you think it is justified, it is because you were never acting out on empathy to begin with, but simply as an experiment to see how it would affect your own self interest. This would be the true “what I want only” mentality.

  27. Satya says:

    @Aestheticaf

    Suppose I am the father of that little 4 year old girl who housed and hired a refugee for babysitter that turned out repeatedly raping the girl (true story – this actually happened) I have a duty to my daughter to never let that happen again (and take a deep, deep breath to hand that man over to the police and abide by the law and not take immediate and drastic revenge). So no experiments. Only a teenage female babysitter or so and NEVER again another male refugee in my home. That is the price.

    Muslims in Europe ruin their own reputation. It is up to them to remedy the situation.

  28. AristocraticLove says:

    @Satya

    You think wrong if you think only males can be “pedophiles”.

    By the way, it gives me that you are not an Aryanist, who are you? I say it out of curiosity.

  29. Satya says:

    “Satya, you should recognize that your true quarrel is not with immigrants, nor with criminals, but with your own nations lack of appropriately punishing criminals.”

    That is true as well. It is very expensive to punish. A normal day in prison costs 80€ in Berlin and the city does not have the money or the space to incarcerate all that need it (unfortunately those who need it in Berlin are predominantly Arabs, Turks and Sinti and Roma youths). I prefer to have them expelled to put a foot down.

    Other than that it is a fucked up situation. I do not want to see German-Muslim relations destroyed really. I would prefer Muslim organizations would be louder and clearer in their condemnation and offer to assist in educating and rehabilitating these men. Honorably, and without infidel bashing vis a vis the Germans. All they ever seem to be doing is decry Islamophobia. Some sink so low even to call Germans Nazis for being upset.

  30. Blake Towne says:

    @AS

    I see what you mean, but what do you make of these two quotes:

    “It angers one to think that, while in other parts of the globe religious teaching like that of Confucius, Buddha and Mohammed offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should have been duped by a theological exposition devoid of all honest depth”-Adolf Hitler, 1942

    “Among eastern religions, Hitler described religious leaders such as “Confucius, Buddha, and Mohammed” as providers of “spiritual sustenance”.”-Wikipedia’s take on Hitler’s views on Confucius

  31. Satya says:

    I am not an Aryanist. I also do not principally hate Jews or Muslims for that matter – I know too many decent ones of both categories. This entire conflict is tragic and I see no real way out of it. As for me: you all have my prayers equally. I came to this site per coincidence and have a personal rule to seek conversation especially when someone is very different from me. If we all stay in our corners we do not really learn anything new, do we?

    As for pedophiles: I know there are female pedophiles as well. And they are not an inch better. This whole empire of shame is essentially build on pedophilia and by now I think most people know it or suspect it – at least most people I know. I suspect the elites dream it is to one day legalize it and procure children out in the open. Like they want to phase in euthanasia of the elderly to deal with having to pay pensions (already happening in the Netherlands and Great Britain).

  32. Satya says:

    I am also absolutely no fan of Hitler. There I said it. It find it curious what you make of him. That is why I stayed for chat.

  33. Satya says:

    Hitler was a British agent in my opinion and this entire race theory is a British construct. It is somewhat aesthetic but by and large insane. Hitler was procured in to clench the German people into a fist to punch Russia with thereby separating both land powers from another and weakening the Soviet Union after it failed to be brought it heel by the Wallstreet agent Trotzky. I am sorry to bust your bubble, but nothing noble. That is why Russians were excluded from the “master race” as well. I don’t believe in master races as any such thought in my opinion will keep you from relentlessly working to deserve and take nothing for granted. In Buddhism anyone taking refuge and committing to the Buddhist moral code is called “Arya”. That is about the only definition I would accept. You have to work for it.

    As for ideologies in general: just drop them really. The Tao that can be spoken is not the true Tao. So it is with Truth and Truth is God. The earth and life are both divine and not created by a demiurge, that was Gnostic truther talk for government and religious institutions. The world is beautiful and luminous. So much for where I stand.

  34. AS says:

    @Satya

    “I am out.”

    You have told us this several times, yet you are still here.

    “By that logic if a homeless person prefers to be in your living room and makes the journey to break into your apartment you cannot throw him out or even kill him if he refuses to leave.”

    I own my apartment, so of course I can throw him out. On the other hand, I don’t own the apartment BLOCK in which my apartment is located. So if someone moves into the apartment next door, I can’t throw him out.

    “You cannot invade my territory. Period the end. However bad you want to be in it, I will not let you violate my right of domain without maximum resistance.”

    I support you in throwing out anyone you do not welcome from private properties which have a deed with your name on it. But I highly doubt that you own all the land in Germany, and wish you could stop pretending that you do, especially when you try to make it sound epic.

    “I am not your bitch.”

    You are not the monopoly landowner of Germany either.

    “By that logic all of colonialism was always ever OK and you functionally have no argument against Jews being in Israel. Afterall that is where they want to be and want to go to.”

    If Jews moved to Palestine wanting to become Palestinian, or even if Jews established Israel with the aim of making Palestinians into Israelis, sure. But that was not what happened.

    “The problem with Israel is that it was taken by force from the Palestinians”

    No, the problem with Israel is that it is defined as a Jewish ethnostate. The Roman Empire took land by force but we have no problem with this because it viewed the people living on the taken land as fellow Romans. Does Israel view Palestinians as fellow Israelis?

    “Modern Israelis born into Israel however have not done that, neither have f.e. later Russian immigrants to Israel. They are innocent.”

    No, because they pay taxes to Israel knowing it is a Jewish ethnostate. Helen Thomas nailed it: those born in Israel have a duty to emigrate.

    “You refuse to believe in crime statistics and all the rest and I can sit here and tell you all the things I know from police officers and the like.”

    I also refused to believe the official story about 9/11 despite people sitting there and telling me all the things they know from FBI, NSA and the like.

    Even if the crime statistics are true, it doesn’t make it OK to punish the innocent along with the guilty as you advocate doing.

    Morever, how does it help to deport criminals? Deporting them doesn’t change who they are. They will still commit crimes elsewhere, and hence there will still be victims of their crimes who will suffer. All you are really saying is: you want to shift the suffering onto people not of your tribe.

    “All these North African offenders are already known to the police and victims report them as the perpetrators.”

    And I will repeat it again: A REPORT DOES NOT IMPLY A CRIME!!!!!

    http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/colohoax-confirmed/

    “Suppose I am the father of that little 4 year old girl who housed and hired a refugee for babysitter that turned out repeatedly raping the girl (true story – this actually happened) I have a duty to my daughter to never let that happen again”

    Your duty – which you already failed in – was to never let it happen the first time, in which you could have succeeded with 100% certainty simply by never conceiving her in the first place, since she never asked you to do so. But by conceiving her, birthing her AND THEN being willing to no longer treat others as individuals supposedly in the interest of her safety, you fail in your duty towards everyone else also, since everyone deserves to be treated as an individual. Many Israelis are fathers of little 4 year old girls also, and use their safety to justify supporting the IDF. I don’t take them seriously either.

    “Muslims in Europe ruin their own reputation.”

    How? By being the most enthusiastic and most consistent supporters of BDS? Or by opposing ‘Holocaust’ education in schools?

    @Blake

    ““It angers one to think that, while in other parts of the globe religious teaching like that of Confucius, Buddha and Mohammed offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should have been duped by a theological exposition devoid of all honest depth”-Adolf Hitler, 1942″

    The common aspect between Confucius, Siddhartha and Mohammed is that all three implied that following their own teachings does not require necessarily rejecting other teachings (unless there is contradiction, of course). That is what Hitler meant by “broad basis”, in contrast to the narrowness of Judeo-Christianity (the main historical religion of Germany) which has traditionally claimed that “Christians” cannot also be followers of other teachings, and in particular cannot recognize Jesus as merely one of many great teachers, but insists that Jesus is the ONE AND ONLY Son of God.

    I don’t care about the Wiki quote.

  35. Satya says:

    “I support you in throwing out anyone you do not welcome from private properties which have a deed with your name on it. But I highly doubt that you own all the land in Germany, and wish you could stop pretending that you do, especially when you try to make it sound epic.”

    Reread what I wrote before: I support VOLUNTARY hosting of participating communities and individual hosts. Not the use of force. You support the use of force and would fill up an asylum home even if it is in a little town with a few hundred people and the refugees amount to a few thousand men, even if many of these men then proceed to harass people on the street f.e. by trying to snatch a baby from a baby carriage which happened just yesterday and was luckily prevented by the Karateka father who elbowed the guy to the ground. Moreover the German state is currently evicting whole families from certain of his properties to house refugees and so are opportunistic land lords who want in on the Asylum industry money (which is a lot). Since you are not going to express anything other than contempt for these people or doubt their perspective anyway do not bother responding to this point.

    “You are not the monopoly landowner of Germany either.”

    Neither are you. Thank God.

    “No, the problem with Israel is that it is defined as a Jewish ethnostate. The Roman Empire took land by force but we have no problem with this because it viewed the people living on the taken land as fellow Romans. Does Israel view Palestinians as fellow Israelis?”

    This far I am with you, I don’t think it should either. Although not on the Romans. The conquered lands were not asked and did not join voluntarily and were prevented violently from exiting the empire when they objected to its policies.

    “I also refused to believe the official story about 9/11 despite people sitting there and telling me all the things they know from FBI, NSA and the like.”

    Neither do I. This is something different however. You are welcome to ignore this as it does not fit your narrative.

    “Morever, how does it help to deport criminals? Deporting them doesn’t change who they are. They will still commit crimes elsewhere, and hence there will still be victims of their crimes who will suffer. All you are really saying is: you want to shift the suffering onto people not of your tribe.”

    You contradict yourself. My point further up: A state cannot evict just all his undesirables and dumb them onto other people without consequence. You said they just had to be welcomed in the new community. Gotcha.
    Besides: Yes. Germany can throw out people back into the nation they cam from when they are no German citizens.

    “Your duty – which you already failed in – was to never let it happen the first time, in which you could have succeeded with 100% certainty simply by never conceiving her in the first place, since she never asked you to do so. But by conceiving her, birthing her AND THEN being willing to no longer treat others as individuals supposedly in the interest of her safety, you fail in your duty towards everyone else also, since everyone deserves to be treated as an individual. Many Israelis are fathers of little 4 year old girls also, and use their safety to justify supporting the IDF. I don’t take them seriously either.”

    You are ragingly sick. A human birth is key to illumination. Animals are incarnating up into the human realm and out from it. You might think you’re edgy and Gnostic but you are just misguided and misguiding. Reread the Dhammapadam. A human body IS the exit door. You are here because unfulfilled desires and open Karma drove you back. The law is God.

    This being said, we have a duty to provide good incarnations to those who still need them to advance. The end. Chastity is important for the ascent of the soul, but so is having been born in a human body in the first place.

  36. Satya says:

    If I my I have another question and I would like to hear your perspective on that:

    It seems to my that this Aryanism vs. Zionism thing is older than this movement. First of all I learned from your way to argue and I commend you for answering all my questions in general although I still happen to disagree on some key points. So the following is my question or better my questions:

    1. Could it be that Aryanism (Gnostic secret societies??) and Zionism (Jewish and British Israelites – first publication of Christian Zionism would be 1540 in England) are the two major camps of world and master race ideas behind the scenes of the Anglo-American Empire battling it out since the time of Francis Bacon and all else is just theater for the public?

    Which of these groups are connected to Aryanism somehow:
    – Theosophical Society (Alice Bailey)
    – UN and round table groups (Rhodes plan)
    (Because they seem to heavily advocate pro-refugee and pro-Islam. Where is Soros playing in here? The ZioJews seem to hate him.)
    – Some of European nobility (“Aryan blood lines?”) – Zio-Protocols
    – Founding father groups and the whole Novo Atlantis thing (appeared non Zio but Zios tailed them to America. Zios were used or played?)
    – Campanella / Thomas More type utopias
    – How are the modern labour groups connected?

    Are the Zios trying to disrupt “Aryan” blood line since Zio open door policies and micegenation propaganda?

    How does this whole David Icke type Gnosticoid theory play in there and the Nag Hammadi finds?

    Are the two camps roughly divided into a Israelite (British or otherwhise) and meritocratic gnostic group? What’s with the Globalism Nationalism divide?

  37. Lucius Rhine says:

    If there are “Laws of Ascension” I’m going to go to war with the law maker as well for imposing the life and death cycle, that one would be a sadistic spirit as well. The Dhammapadam also promotes the cycle of life and death as a wonderful thing, instead of another Goy Wheel.

  38. Aestheticaf says:

    @Satya
    “Suppose I am the father of that little 4 year old girl who housed and hired a refugee for babysitter that turned out repeatedly raping the girl (true story – this actually happened)”

    Then you should be permitted to execute him upon the discovery of this fact.

    “I have a duty to my daughter to never let that happen again (and take a deep, deep breath to hand that man over to the police and abide by the law and not take immediate and drastic revenge). So no experiments. Only a teenage female babysitter or so and NEVER again another male refugee in my home. That is the price.”
    There are two problems. 1. Your nation does not permit true justice 2. You think that just because one rapist was a refugee, that all refugees are rapists. This is called bigotry or prejudice. Oh, and I guess there is a third problem, you are terrible at selecting a good babysitter/you are a bad parent.

    “Muslims in Europe ruin their own reputation. It is up to them to remedy the situation.”
    Wrong. The Jewish media ruins the Muslims reputation in Europe. It is up to those with honor to remedy the situation.

  39. Matt says:

    Satya this is because Leftists only care about children when they can molest them, inject them with hormones, abort them or use them as propaganda against you.

  40. Satya says:

    But you cannot go to war with God. It is going to war with yourself. The Demiurge is the Ego and the world the egoic mind creates in all ways and all institutions. How can you go to war with that? Every aspect of life has to be elevated. Besides: you do not seem to know what the world truly looks like when the egoic mind. There are no words to describe it and there is no death wish. Read the sermon of the lily.

    The desire not to exist is also illusive.

  41. Aestheticaf says:

    @Satya
    “I am also absolutely no fan of Hitler. There I said it. It find it curious what you make of him. That is why I stayed for chat.”

    I am not 100% in agreement with what Aryanism.net proclaims. (For example, I agree with your own statement: “A human birth is key to illumination. Animals are incarnating up into the human realm and out from it… A human body IS the exit door. You are here because unfulfilled desires and open Karma drove you back. The law is God. This being said, we have a duty to provide good incarnations to those who still need them to advance… Chastity is important for the ascent of the soul, but so is having been born in a human body in the first place.” In fact I would like to learn more about this, if you could refer me to any resources please.)

    However no entity has come as close as Aryanism.net to identifying my truly innate feelings about the world. Furthermore, no entity has done this masterful of a job putting it all together. As someone who has studied National Socialism and Adolf Hitler for so long, I can tell you that your theories are incorrect, and I sincerely invite you to read some of the pages hosted on this main site:
    http://aryanism.net/culture/adolf-hitler/
    http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-basics/
    http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-nazism/
    http://aryanism.net/politics/white-nationalists/why-race-matters/
    http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/
    I don’t want to pile up too much material at once for you, so I will just ask, have you been acquainted with the writings of Julius Evola?

  42. Lucius Rhine says:

    If you haven’t noticed we are at war with the ego in whatever name it manifests itself. The demiurge, YHWH, the creator, all are one in the same. The Ego seeks to survive. We seek to defeat death, therefore survival is no longer a concept.

  43. Satya says:

    In understand that intensity more, way more than you can imagine. But in order to do that you must walk into the open blade of truth in your own self.

    About militancy:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8szr8oPrxE

  44. AS says:

    @Satya

    “You support the use of force”

    There is BY DEFINITION no use of force in ALLOWING people to move where they want to move. Use of force occurs in preventing them from doing so.

    “and would fill up an asylum home”

    I would not fill up an asylum home by forcing anyone to move in. I would allow an asylum home to be filled up by people who themselves wish to move in. See the difference?

    “many of these men then proceed to harass people on the street”

    These are individuals. Deal with them as such. Do not generalize.

    “Moreover the German state is currently evicting whole families from certain of his properties to house refugees”

    You yourself state that these properties are state property, so the decision is the state’s to make, just as I can house whomever I prefer to house on my private property, and you can house whomever you prefer to house on your private property. If you dislike the decisions of the state you currently live under, you can move to live under another state.

    “Neither are you. Thank God.”

    Exactly. As I have been saying, I only own my apartment. Unlike you, I behave accordingly.

    “The conquered lands were not asked and did not join voluntarily and were prevented violently from exiting the empire when they objected to its policies.”

    The people could exit as they wished, and that is what matters. Again, you keep ignoring that people do not choose where they are born. Just because they happened to be born in a particular land does not mean it is theirs more than anyone else’s.

    “This is something different however.”

    Hardly:

    http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/The-Ugly-Truth.jpg

    Why does the German police support the official story about the Berlin truck attack?

    “A state cannot evict just all his undesirables and dumb them onto other people without consequence. You said they just had to be welcomed in the new community. Gotcha.”

    PEOPLE CAN GO TO WHICHEVER COUNTRY THEY THEMSELVES WISH TO GO. I oppose any state evicting people who want to stay, and I oppose any state turning away people who want to enter. These are two aspects of the same principle, you moron.

    In whichever country PEOPLE THEMSELVES WISH TO BE, that is where they should be welcomed. What matters is not where any state wants any given person to be, but where that person himself wants to be.

  45. Satya says:

    @Astheticaf

    Hitler did not invade Great Britain, which is a strong indication that he was acting either in conscious treason or misguided gullibility as a British agent. Aryanism is not a German philosophy per se, because German Idealism is fundamentally predicated on the conviction that Nature is God, good and divine. It is a dreaming of organic order that has lead to a science based on historical observation and an attempt to speak the language of the animal, the soul or whatever was meditated about. There is a deep innate piety towards the truth while the order of the state is highly reglemented in order to be as fair and meritocratic as humanly possible. Germans need and strive for a firm base and an open, yet pious mind.

  46. Hypnotix says:

    @Satya

    “Hitler did not invade Great Britain, which is a strong indication that he was acting either in conscious treason or misguided gullibility as a British agent.”

    Right. Because he had such perfect conditions for invading Britain that the only possible explanation for why he didn’t actually do so is that he’s a British agent! Uh-huh.

    Even if he didn’t have the entire myriad of problems on his head at the time, it still would make no strategic sense to invade England, knowing that Stalin was just biding his time, waiting to strike when the Westerners had exhausted themselves fighting (as he [Stalin] himself admitted in a speech predating Operation Barbarossa).

    “Aryanism is not a German philosophy per se”

    Of course it isn’t; its entire idea is such that examples of it can be found (almost) everywhere in the world. Just ask the SS (or the main site’s Aryan Diffusion series). They didn’t have an entire archaelogical branch attached to them for no reason.

  47. handschar says:

    Aryans will conquer Perfidious Albion.

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